Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-08 Thread rantingrick
On Jul 7, 6:47 pm, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach
+use...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hm, for pure shock value I think I'll use the acronym PYthon Native Interface
 Support.

 pynis! :-)

Well as long as you don't put your pynis *pointers* in pynie then
everything will be Ok! ;-)
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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-07 Thread Rami Chowdhury
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 22:42:25 rantingrick wrote:
 On Jul 6, 9:11 pm, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach
 
 +use...@gmail.com wrote:
  pyni! Pronounced like tiny! Yay!
 
 hmm, how's about an alternate spelling... pyknee, or pynee, or
 pynie ... considering those are not taken either?

Pynie's taken too -- it's the Python implementation on the Parrot VM. 


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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-07 Thread MRAB

Rami Chowdhury wrote:

On Tuesday 06 July 2010 22:42:25 rantingrick wrote:

On Jul 6, 9:11 pm, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach

+use...@gmail.com wrote:

pyni! Pronounced like tiny! Yay!

hmm, how's about an alternate spelling... pyknee, or pynee, or
pynie ... considering those are not taken either?


Pynie's taken too -- it's the Python implementation on the Parrot VM. 


PyNatInt gets no hits on Google.
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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-07 Thread Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet

* rantingrick, on 07.07.2010 07:42:

On Jul 6, 9:11 pm, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenetalf.p.steinbach
+use...@gmail.com  wrote:


pyni! Pronounced like tiny! Yay!


hmm, how's about an alternate spelling... pyknee, or pynee, or
pynie ... considering those are not taken either?


Hm, for pure shock value I think I'll use the acronym PYthon Native Interface 
Support.


pynis! :-)

A set of C++ classes to ease the writing of extensions.

Like,


code file=Ptr.h
// progrock.pynis  --  Python Native Interface Support
// A simple C++ framework for writing Python 3.x extensions.
//
// Copyright (C) Alf P. Steinbach, 2010.

#ifndef PYNIS_PTR_H
#define PYNIS_PTR_H
#include progrock/cppx/devsupport/better_experience.h


//- Dependencies:

#include Python.h
#include assert.h
#include algorithm



//- Interface:

namespace progrock{ namespace pynis {

enum DoAddRef { doAddRef };

class Ptr
{
private:
PyObject*   p_;

public:
Ptr( PyObject* p = 0 ): p_( p )
{}

Ptr( PyObject* p, DoAddRef ): p_( p )
{
assert( p != 0 );
Py_INCREF( p_ );
}

Ptr( Ptr const other ): p_( other.p_ )
{
Py_XINCREF( p_ );
}

~Ptr()
{
Py_XDECREF( p_ );
}

void swapWith( Ptr other ) { std::swap( p_, other.p_ ); }
Ptr operator=( Ptr other ) { swapWith( other ); return *this; }

PyObject* get() const   { return p_; }

PyObject* release()
{
PyObject* const result  = p_;
Py_XDECREF( p_ );
p_ = 0;
return result;
}
};

} }  // namespace progrock::pynis


#endif
/code


Cheers,

- Alf (shocked)

PS: Darn, forgot to google it. But I think it's unlikely the name's already in 
use!

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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-07 Thread Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet

* Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet, on 08.07.2010 01:47:


 enum DoAddRef { doAddRef };

 class Ptr
 {
 private:
 PyObject*   p_;

 public:
 Ptr( PyObject* p = 0 ): p_( p )
 {}

 Ptr( PyObject* p, DoAddRef ): p_( p )
 {
 assert( p != 0 );
 Py_INCREF( p_ );
 }

 Ptr( Ptr const other ): p_( other.p_ )
 {
 Py_XINCREF( p_ );
 }

 ~Ptr()
 {
 Py_XDECREF( p_ );
 }

 void swapWith( Ptr other ) { std::swap( p_, other.p_ ); }
 Ptr operator=( Ptr other ) { swapWith( other ); return *this; }

 PyObject* get() const   { return p_; }

 PyObject* release()
 {
 PyObject* const result  = p_;
 Py_XDECREF( p_ );


Hark. This Py_XDECREF shouldn't be there, I don't know how it got there. The 
whole point of 'release', with conventional semantics, is to /not/ decrement the 
reference count.




 p_ = 0;
 return result;
 }
 };



Sorry for posting unfinished code,

- Alf


PS: pyni was a good name. But in use! When I thought about adding the s as 
disambiguation I thought the pure shock value of that was funny in a way, but 
now it doesn't seem funny. Is pytes (Python Extension Support) a good name?


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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-06 Thread Richard Thomas
On Jul 7, 3:11 am, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach
+use...@gmail.com wrote:
 Donald Knuth once remarked (I think it was him) that what matters for a 
 program
 is the name, and that he'd come up with a really good name, now all he'd had 
 to
 do was figure out what it should be all about.

 And so considering Sturla Molden's recent posting about unavailability of MSVC
 9.0 (aka Visual C++ 2008) for creating Python extensions in Windows, and my
 unimaginative reply proposing names like pni and pynacoin for a compiler
 independent Python native code interface, suddenly, as if out of thin air, or
 perhaps out of fish pudding, the name pyni occurred to me.

 pyni! Pronounced like tiny! Yay!

 I sat down and made my first Python extension module, following the tutorial 
 in
 the docs. It worked!

 But, wait, perhaps some other extension is already named piny?

 Google.

 url:http://code.google.com/p/pyni/, PyNI is [a] config file reader/writer.

 Argh!

 - Alf

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PyNI seems to perform the same function as ConfigParser. I prefer the
pronunciation like tiny to Py-N-I. The latter seems clunky.

On a possibly related note I was disappointed to discover that
Python's QT bindings are called PyQT not QTPy. :-)

Chard.
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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-06 Thread Shashwat Anand
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Richard Thomas chards...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jul 7, 3:11 am, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach
 +use...@gmail.com wrote:
  Donald Knuth once remarked (I think it was him) that what matters for a
 program
  is the name, and that he'd come up with a really good name, now all he'd
 had to
  do was figure out what it should be all about.
 
  And so considering Sturla Molden's recent posting about unavailability of
 MSVC
  9.0 (aka Visual C++ 2008) for creating Python extensions in Windows, and
 my
  unimaginative reply proposing names like pni and pynacoin for a
 compiler
  independent Python native code interface, suddenly, as if out of thin
 air, or
  perhaps out of fish pudding, the name pyni occurred to me.
 
  pyni! Pronounced like tiny! Yay!
 
  I sat down and made my first Python extension module, following the
 tutorial in
  the docs. It worked!
 
  But, wait, perhaps some other extension is already named piny?
 
  Google.
 
  url:http://code.google.com/p/pyni/, PyNI is [a] config file
 reader/writer.
 
  Argh!
 
  - Alf
 
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 PyNI seems to perform the same function as ConfigParser. I prefer the
 pronunciation like tiny to Py-N-I. The latter seems clunky.

 On a possibly related note I was disappointed to discover that
 Python's QT bindings are called PyQT not QTPy. :-)


Isn't this the standard.
Qt - PyQt
crypto - pycrypto
MT - PyMT
.
and the list goes on and on .. :)

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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-06 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 7/6/10 8:25 PM, Shashwat Anand wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Richard Thomas chards...@gmail.com
 mailto:chards...@gmail.com wrote:
 On a possibly related note I was disappointed to discover that
 Python's QT bindings are called PyQT not QTPy. :-)
 Isn't this the standard.
 Qt - PyQt
 crypto - pycrypto
 MT - PyMT

I think the point is QTPy would be pronounced cutie pie :)

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Re: Argh! Name collision!

2010-07-06 Thread rantingrick
On Jul 6, 9:11 pm, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach
+use...@gmail.com wrote:

 pyni! Pronounced like tiny! Yay!

hmm, how's about an alternate spelling... pyknee, or pynee, or
pynie ... considering those are not taken either?

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