Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread flupke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> Hi,
> 
> String formatting can be used to converting an integer to its octal or
> hexadecimal form:
 a = 199
 "%o" % a
> '307'
 "%x" % a
> 'c7'
> 
> But, can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary
> form ?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> xiaojf

I don't actually know how to do it with string formatting but you can
create a simple function to do it.
Here's an example:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/219300

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Mirco Wahab
Thus spoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on 2006-09-28 09:10):

> String formatting can be used to converting an integer to its octal or 
> hexadecimal form:
>  >>> a = 199
>  >>> "%o" % a
> '307'
>  >>> "%x" % a
> 'c7'
> 
> But, can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary 
> form ?

I didn't fell over this problem so far but
I *would* have expected to find something
like a 'pack' operator (as in Perl).

And voilá, there is (even basically identical to Perl):

  from struct import *

  a = 199
  a_bin_str = pack('L', a)



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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Gabriel Genellina

At Thursday 28/9/2006 05:22, Mirco Wahab wrote:


> String formatting can be used to converting an integer to its octal or
> hexadecimal form:
>  >>> a = 199
>  >>> "%o" % a
> '307'
>  >>> "%x" % a
> 'c7'
>
> But, can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary
> form ?

  a = 199
  a_bin_str = pack('L', a)


Notice that the OP was looking for another thing, given the examples. 
Perhaps a better wording would have been "how to convert an integer 
to its base-2 string representation".



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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Mirco Wahab
Thus spoke Gabriel Genellina (on 2006-09-28 11:05):

> At Thursday 28/9/2006 05:22, Mirco Wahab wrote:
>> > But, can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary
>> > form ?
>>
>>   a = 199
>>   a_bin_str = pack('L', a)

> 
> Notice that the OP was looking for another thing, given the examples. 
> Perhaps a better wording would have been "how to convert an integer 
> to its base-2 string representation".

Yes, you are right. The OP looks for a
'binary (bit) representation ..."
I admit I didn't find out how to format
a value into a bit string in Python.

In Perl, this would be a no-brainer:

  $var = 199;
  $str = sprintf "%0*b", 32, $var;

and str would contain 11000111
on a intel machine.

But where is the %b in Python?

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread bearophileHUGS
Mirco Wahab:
> But where is the %b in Python?

Python doesn't have that. You can convert the number to a hex, and then
map the hex digitds to binary strings using a dictionary, like this:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440528

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Frederic Rentsch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mirco Wahab:
>   
>> But where is the %b in Python?
>> 
>
> Python doesn't have that. You can convert the number to a hex, and then
> map the hex digitds to binary strings using a dictionary, like this:
> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440528
>
> Bye,
> bearophile
>
>   
Good idea, but shorter with -> 
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/SE/2.2%20beta

 >>> import SE
 >>> Int_To_Binary = SE.SE (SE.SE ('0= 1=0001 2=0010 3=0011 4=0100 
5=0101 6=0110 7=0111 8=1000 9=1001 A=1010 a=1010 B=1011 b=1011 C=1100 
c=1100 D=1101 d=1101 E=1110 e=1110 F= f=')
 >>> Int_To_Binary ('%x' % 1234567890')
'0100100110010110001011010010'

 >>> Int_To_Binary.save ('se_definition_files/int_to_binary.se')

 >>> SE.SE ('se_definition_files/int_to_binary.se') ('%X' % 987654321)
'0011101011000110100010110001'


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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Mirco Wahab
Thus spoke Frederic Rentsch (on 2006-09-28 20:43):
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Mirco Wahab:
>>   
>>> But where is the %b in Python?
>>
>> Python doesn't have that. ...
>> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440528
>   
> Good idea, but shorter with -> 
> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/SE/2.2%20beta
> SE.SE ('se_definition_files/int_to_binary.se') ('%X' % 987654321)
> '0011101011000110100010110001'

I don't really understand here:

- why doesn't have Python such a simple and useful thing as to_binstr(...)
  even C++ has one built in,
#include 
#include 

int somefunc()
   {
int val = 199;
std::cout << std::bitset<32>( val );
...

- why would you favor such complicated solutions
  for this (as posted), when you can have this
  in one line, e.g.:

  def int2bin(num, width=32):
return ''.join(['%c'%(ord('0')+bool((1

Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mirco Wahab wrote:

> Thus spoke Frederic Rentsch (on 2006-09-28 20:43):
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Mirco Wahab:
>>>   
 But where is the %b in Python?
>>>
>>> Python doesn't have that. ...
>>> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440528
>>   
>> Good idea, but shorter with -> 
>> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/SE/2.2%20beta
>> SE.SE ('se_definition_files/int_to_binary.se') ('%X' % 987654321)
>> '0011101011000110100010110001'
> 
> I don't really understand here:
> 
> - why doesn't have Python such a simple and useful thing as to_binstr(...)

Maybe simple, but useful?  And if you really need this it's simple to
implement or look up in the cook book.

> - why would you favor such complicated solutions
>   for this (as posted), when you can have this
>   in one line, e.g.:
> 
>   def int2bin(num, width=32):
> return ''.join(['%c'%(ord('0')+bool((1< range((width-1),-1,-1)])

Yeah, I wonder why not everybody sees the beauty in this cool and
straightforward one liner.  ;-)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Mirco Wahab wrote:

> - why doesn't have Python such a simple and useful thing as to_binstr(...)

useful?  really?  for what?



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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Mirco Wahab
Thus spoke Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch (on 2006-09-28 23:38):

>>   def int2bin(num, width=32):
>> return ''.join(['%c'%(ord('0')+bool((1<> range((width-1),-1,-1)])
> 
> Yeah, I wonder why not everybody sees the beauty in this cool and
> straightforward one liner.  ;-)

Right. I see this is BS, maybe lots of these lines exist already,
one could come up with (sorted by obfuscation, descending):

def int2bin(num, width=32):
#  return ''.join( [chr(ord('0')+bool(1<>k & 1),range(width-1, -1, -1)) )
#  return ''.join( [str(num>>k & 1)for k in range(width-1, -1, -1)] )

But after some thinking, I thought about discussing this one:

def i2b(num, width):
  return str(1 & num>>(width-1)) + i2b(num, width-1) if width else ''

which is the shortest ;-)

(Sorry but I'm more or less a newbie, maybe this is BS too ...)

Regards

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Mirco Wahab
Thus spoke Fredrik Lundh (on 2006-09-28 23:35):

> Mirco Wahab wrote:
> 
>> - why doesn't have Python such a simple and useful thing as to_binstr(...)
> 
> useful?  really?  for what?

I don't really know, but according to google,
people often ask exactly for that and there
is no reason at all why one shouldn't expect
to get a /bit string/ from "%b" %.

So if people think it's badly needed, how
couldn't it be *not* useful then? ;-)

It feels to me (as it does sometimes
when diving into Python, to be honest)
simply as a shortcoming, - and the ter-
nary operator included in 2.5 was
imho a huge step forward, next will
be mutable strings and arrays will be
'called arrays' somewhere ... ;-)

(maybe somebody reverses the -v/-V switch too, hey)

Regards

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread bearophileHUGS
Frederic Rentsch:
> Good idea, but shorter with ->
>  >>> SE.SE ('se_definition_files/int_to_binary.se') ('%X' % 987654321)
> '0011101011000110100010110001'

Note that your version keeps the leading zeros.
Have you tested the relative speeds too?
(I'll probably have to learn to use SE.)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Mirco Wahab:
>> But where is the %b in Python?
> 
> Python doesn't have that. You can convert the number to a hex, and then
> map the hex digitds to binary strings using a dictionary, like this:
> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440528

How about this: (where n is the integer you want to convert):

"".join([["0", "1"][(1 << i & n) != 0] for i in 
range(int(math.ceil(math.log(n, 2))) - 1, -1, -1)])

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I wrote:

> "".join([["0", "1"][(1 << i & n) != 0] for i in 
> range(int(math.ceil(math.log(n, 2))) - 1, -1, -1)])

Uh, make that

"".join([["0", "1"][(1 << i & n) != 0] for i in 
range(int(math.floor(math.log(n, 2))), -1, -1)])

Need to check those corner cases. :)
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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Gabriel Genellina

At Thursday 28/9/2006 22:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:


How about this: (where n is the integer you want to convert):

"".join([["0", "1"][(1 << i & n) != 0] for i in 
range(int(math.ceil(math.log(n, 2))) - 1, -1, -1)])


Uhm... so to generate a binary string you have to import the math 
module, convert the integer to float, compute a non-standard 
logarithm, and then...

What if n<=0?
Too much, don't you think? :)


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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread George Sakkis
Gabriel Genellina wrote:

> At Thursday 28/9/2006 22:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
> >How about this: (where n is the integer you want to convert):
> >
> > "".join([["0", "1"][(1 << i & n) != 0] for i in
> > range(int(math.ceil(math.log(n, 2))) - 1, -1, -1)])
>
> Uhm... so to generate a binary string you have to import the math
> module, convert the integer to float, compute a non-standard
> logarithm, and then...
> What if n<=0?
> Too much, don't you think? :)

Having recently discovered the joy of obfuscated python thanks to the
Code Golf challenges, here's the shortest non-recursive function I came
up with (all integers, signed):

f=lambda n:'-'[:n<0]+''.join(str(m&1)for m in iter(
  lambda x=[abs(n)]:(x[0],x.__setitem__(0,x[0]>>1))[0],0))[::-1]or'0'

Any takers ? ;-)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread MonkeeSage
So far as unobfuscated versions go, how about the simple:

def to_bin(x):
  out = []
  while x > 0:
out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
x = x / 2
  return ''.join(out)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
MonkeeSage wrote:
> So far as unobfuscated versions go, how about the simple:
> 
> def to_bin(x):
>   out = []
>   while x > 0:
> out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
> x = x / 2
>   return ''.join(out)
> 
> Regards,
> Jordan
> 
  >>> to_bin(0)
''

6/10: try harder :)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread Paul Rubin
"MonkeeSage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> def to_bin(x):
>   out = []
>   while x > 0:
> out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
> x = x / 2
>   return ''.join(out)

That returns the empty string for x=0.  I'm not sure if that's a bug
or a feature.

It also returns the empty string for x < 0, probably a bug.

It will break in Python 3, where 1 / 2 == 0.5.

Here's yet another version:

def to_bin(n):
if n < 0: return '-' + to_bin(-n)
if n==0: return '0'
return ''.join(
("", "0001", "0010", "0011",
"0100", "0101", "0110", "0111",
"1000", "1001", "1010", "1011",
"1100", "1101", "1110", "",)[int(d,16)] \
for d in '%x'%n).lstrip('0')
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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread George Sakkis
Steve Holden wrote:

> MonkeeSage wrote:
> > So far as unobfuscated versions go, how about the simple:
> >
> > def to_bin(x):
> >   out = []
> >   while x > 0:
> > out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
> > x = x / 2
> >   return ''.join(out)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jordan
> >
>   >>> to_bin(0)
> ''
>
> 6/10: try harder :)

Ok, how about a fast *and* readable version? Works for non-negatives,
but negatives are trivial to add if necessary:

from array import array

def fast2bin(n):
s = array('c')
while n>0:
s.append('01'[n&1])
n >>= 1
s.reverse()
return s.tostring() or '0'

try: import psyco
except ImportError: pass
else: psyco.bind(fast2bin)


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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-28 Thread MonkeeSage
Steve Holden wrote:
>   >>> to_bin(0)
> ''

Doh! Oh, yeah...that! ;)

OK...

def to_bin(x):
  out=[]
  while x > 0:
out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
x /= 2
  else:
out.append(str(x))
  return ''.join(out)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Holden
MonkeeSage wrote:
> Steve Holden wrote:
> 
>>  >>> to_bin(0)
>>''
> 
> 
> Doh! Oh, yeah...that! ;)
> 
> OK...
> 
> def to_bin(x):
>   out=[]
>   while x > 0:
> out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
> x /= 2
>   else:
> out.append(str(x))
>   return ''.join(out)
> 
It's an often-missed and almost invariably untested corner case that 
one's first attempt to solve the problem usually rids one of. I have 
written binary format code about thirteen times in a lifetime of 
programming so it was easy for me to spot. You'll never make *that* 
mistake again ;-)

Unfortunately forty years of programming experience has taught me that 
there's an essentially infinite supply of mistakes to make ... your 
mistakes just get smarter most of the time.

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-29 Thread Frederic Rentsch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Frederic Rentsch:
>   
>> Good idea, but shorter with ->
>>  >>> SE.SE ('se_definition_files/int_to_binary.se') ('%X' % 987654321)
>> '0011101011000110100010110001'
>> 
>
> Note that your version keeps the leading zeros.
> Have you tested the relative speeds too?
> (I'll probably have to learn to use SE.)
>
> Bye,
> bearophile
>
>   
If you say speed, I presume you mean speed of execution. No I have not 
tested that. I know it can't be fast on a test bench. After all, SE is 
written in Python. I did a first version fifteen years ago in C, am 
still using it today on occasion and it runs much, much faster than this 
Python SE. This SE here could be done in C if it passes the test of 
acceptance.
 Professionals need to measure execution speed as a part of 
documenting their products. I am not a professional and so I am free to 
define my own scale of grades: A (fast enough) and F (not fast enough). 
I have yet to encounter a situation where SE gets an F. But that says 
less about SE than about my better knowledge which prevents me from 
using SE to, say, change colors in a 50 Mb bitmap. Obviously, "fast 
enough" and "not fast enough" pertains not to code per se, but to code 
in a specific situation. So, as the saying goes: the proof of the 
pudding ...
 Another kind of speed is production speed. I do believe that SE 
rather excels on that side. I also believe that the two kinds of speed 
are economically related by the return-on-investment principle.
 The third kind of speed is learning speed. SE is so simple that it 
has no technical learning curve to speak of. It's versatility comes from 
a wealth of application techniques that invite exploration, invention 
even. Take leading zeroes:

Leading zeroes can be stripped in a second pass if they are made 
recognizable in the first pass by some leading mark that is not a zero 
or a one. ([^01]; I use "@" in the following example). To purists this 
may seem hackish. So it is! And what's wrong with that if it leads to 
simpler solutions?

 >>> Hex_To_Binary = SE.SE ('0= 1=0001 2=0010 3=0011 4=0100 5=0101 
6=0110 7=0111 8=1000 9=1001 A=1010 a=1010 B=1011 b=1011 C=1100 c=1100 
D=1101 d=1101 E=1110 e=1110 F= f= | ~[^01]0*~=')
 >>> Hex_To_Binary.set (keep_chain = 1)
 >>> Hex_To_Binary ('@%x' % 1234567890)
'100100110010110001011010010'
 >>> Hex_To_Binary.show ()

... snip ...

Data Chain
--
  @499602d2
0 

  @0100100110010110001011010010
1 

  100100110010110001011010010
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Frederic

(The previously posted example "Int_To_Binary = SE.SE (SE.SE ( ..." was 
a typo, or course. One (SE.SE  does it. Sorry about that.)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-29 Thread Simon Brunning
On 9/29/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately forty years of programming experience has taught me that
> there's an essentially infinite supply of mistakes to make ... your
> mistakes just get smarter most of the time.

+1 QOTW.

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-29 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2006-09-29, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MonkeeSage wrote:
>> So far as unobfuscated versions go, how about the simple:
>> 
>> def to_bin(x):
>>   out = []
>>   while x > 0:
>> out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
>> x = x / 2
>>   return ''.join(out)
>> 
>> Regards,

It was surprising that

>>> i = int("111010101", 2)

is a one-way operation.

>>> s = str(i, 2)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
TypeError: str() takes at most 1 argument (2 given)

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-29 Thread Georg Brandl
Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2006-09-29, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> MonkeeSage wrote:
>>> So far as unobfuscated versions go, how about the simple:
>>> 
>>> def to_bin(x):
>>>   out = []
>>>   while x > 0:
>>> out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
>>> x = x / 2
>>>   return ''.join(out)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
> 
> It was surprising that
> 
 i = int("111010101", 2)
> 
> is a one-way operation.
> 
 s = str(i, 2)
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 1, in ?
> TypeError: str() takes at most 1 argument (2 given)

str() is not only for converting integers, but all other types too.
An explicit argument for this special case is not Pythonic IMO.

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Re: Can string formatting be used to convert an integer to its binary form ?

2006-09-29 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2006-09-29, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neil Cerutti wrote:
>> On 2006-09-29, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> MonkeeSage wrote:
 So far as unobfuscated versions go, how about the simple:
 
 def to_bin(x):
   out = []
   while x > 0:
 out.insert(0, str(x % 2))
 x = x / 2
   return ''.join(out)
 
 Regards,
>> 
>> It was surprising that
>> 
> i = int("111010101", 2)
>> 
>> is a one-way operation.
>> 
> s = str(i, 2)
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "", line 1, in ?
>> TypeError: str() takes at most 1 argument (2 given)
>
> str() is not only for converting integers, but all other types
> too. An explicit argument for this special case is not Pythonic
> IMO.

I suppose two wrongs wouldn't make a right. ;)

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