Re: Debugging on the Mac question.
Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com writes: I am a Vision Impaired programmer on the Mac and Window platforms. I have started to learn Python. The biggest road block I have is the ability of debugging my simple scripts. The IDLE program does not work with the screen readers I use on the Mac or Windows. A screen reader is a program that grabs the text on the screen and converts it into speech output, at least this is the 5 feet explanation. I cannot see the screen at all. I have looked at eclipse and it doesn't work with Voice-Over (the screen reader on the Mac). I have java issues on my windows machine preventing me running this app. If I use $python -d script.py the debugger doesn't seem to trigger on the mac. So how I can perform a debug on a script so I can step through it, set up break points, watch variables, etc. It is really annoying me, since under Perl I just added the -d switch and had a full debugger that worked at the console level. For command line debugging see http://docs.python.org/3/library/pdb.html. More generally you might want to investigate http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ (disclaimer - I have never used this, but from what you say you might find it useful). -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Debugging on the Mac question.
On 2014-01-03 04:17, Sean Murphy wrote: Team, I am a Vision Impaired programmer on the Mac and Window platforms. I have started to learn Python. The biggest road block I have is the ability of debugging my simple scripts. The IDLE program does not work with the screen readers I use on the Mac or Windows. A screen reader is a program that grabs the text on the screen and converts it into speech output, at least this is the 5 feet explanation. I cannot see the screen at all. I have looked at eclipse and it doesn't work with Voice-Over (the screen reader on the Mac). I have java issues on my windows machine preventing me running this app. If I use $python -d script.py the debugger doesn't seem to trigger on the mac. So how I can perform a debug on a script so I can step through it, set up break points, watch variables, etc. It is really annoying me, since under Perl I just added the -d switch and had a full debugger that worked at the console level. Python also has a console debugger. -d does not invoke it; -d is for something else. $ python -m pdb myscript.py http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/pdb -- Robert Kern I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. -- Umberto Eco -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Debugging on the Mac question.
PETER, thanks Peter, I have already found the PDB module and have had a play with it. It will do for now. On 03/01/2014, at 8:08 PM, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk wrote: Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com writes: I am a Vision Impaired programmer on the Mac and Window platforms. I have started to learn Python. The biggest road block I have is the ability of debugging my simple scripts. The IDLE program does not work with the screen readers I use on the Mac or Windows. A screen reader is a program that grabs the text on the screen and converts it into speech output, at least this is the 5 feet explanation. I cannot see the screen at all. I have looked at eclipse and it doesn't work with Voice-Over (the screen reader on the Mac). I have java issues on my windows machine preventing me running this app. If I use $python -d script.py the debugger doesn't seem to trigger on the mac. So how I can perform a debug on a script so I can step through it, set up break points, watch variables, etc. It is really annoying me, since under Perl I just added the -d switch and had a full debugger that worked at the console level. For command line debugging see http://docs.python.org/3/library/pdb.html. More generally you might want to investigate http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ (disclaimer - I have never used this, but from what you say you might find it useful). -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
