Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:23:39 -0800, rusi wrote:

 The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and
 your friends/recipients will wonder whether you've entered a
 time-machine and gone back to 1990!!

Not everything that's changed since 1990 has been an improvement.


 Many people find it simpler to just use Google groups.  It also has its
 problems (as do all methods!) but in sum its the easiest option to use.

How ironic. After mocking those of us who prefer to send and receive 
plain text, you then recommend that people use a delivery mechanism which 
sends plain text.



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Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-12 Thread Steve Hayes
On 12 Dec 2013 11:05:35 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:

On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:23:39 -0800, rusi wrote:

 The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and
 your friends/recipients will wonder whether you've entered a
 time-machine and gone back to 1990!!

Not everything that's changed since 1990 has been an improvement.

And vice versa. 


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Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
 I found a remove formatting button in gmail's composer, and used it
 on this message. Does this message look like plain text?

 Still sent with an HTML part, so some other change must be needed to
 disable that.

Check the default formatting in the settings, or perhaps instead of
no signature there is an empty signature selected that is adding
formatting?

 There isn't a lot of e-mail programs that don't do HTML anymore.

 Many of the better mail clients allow the user to explicitly stop
 rendering HTML (but still have it available, as Steven points out).

Unfortunately, Gmail has recently moved away from the explicit toggle
and now only has that Remove formatting command, which will remove
any existing formatting from the draft but won't necessarily prevent
it from accidentally slipping back in.
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Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread rusi
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:42:42 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
 Dan Stromberg writes:

  I found a remove formatting button in gmail's composer, and used it
  on this message. Does this message look like plain text?

 Still sent with an HTML part, so some other change must be needed to
 disable that.

  There isn't a lot of e-mail programs that don't do HTML anymore.

 Many of the better mail clients allow the user to explicitly stop
 rendering HTML (but still have it available, as Steven points out).

 Disabling HTML in messages is a good idea: HTML rarely adds anything
 useful to a message in a discussion forum, but it can cause the mail
 program to do actions unwanted by the user (e.g. fetch images from
 elsewhere, or run ECMAScript, or invoke HTML rendering bugs).

When you click on send/reply in gmail, there's a small down-triangle
next to the dustbin, inside which you will find a plain text option

The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and
your friends/recipients will wonder whether you've entered a time-machine
and gone back to 1990!!

Many people find it simpler to just use Google groups.  It also has its
problems (as do all methods!) but in sum its the easiest option to use.
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Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
 When you click on send/reply in gmail, there's a small down-triangle
 next to the dustbin, inside which you will find a plain text option

 The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and
 your friends/recipients will wonder whether you've entered a time-machine
 and gone back to 1990!!

Or maybe they'll wonder if you've just magically changed your font
settings to be exactly what they most want to read, because you're no
longer sending text that's too large / too small for them to
comfortably read.

ChrisA
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