Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Ethan Furman writes: > Ethan Furman wrote: >> Arnaud Delobelle wrote: >>> >>> I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: >>> >>> def func(iterable): >>> for x in iterable: >>> print(x) >>> return >>> raise ValueError("... empty iterable") >> >> >> For the immediate case this is a cool solution. > > > Drat -- I have to take that back -- the OP stated: > >> The intention is: >> >> * detect an empty iterator by catching StopIteration; >> * if the iterator is empty, raise a ValueError; >> * otherwise process the iterator. > > > Presumably, the print(x) would be replaced with code that processed > the entire iterable (including x, of course), and not just its first > element. As I had stated before, I didn't where the discussion started from. I replied to code posted by Steven D'Aprano and Paul Rubin. My code snippet was equivalent in functionality to theirs, only a little simpler. Now if one wants to raise an exception if an iterator is empty, else process it somehow, it must mean that the iterator needs to have at least one element for the processing to be meaningful and so it can be thought of as a function of one element and of one iterator: process(first, others) which never needs to raise an exception (at least related to the number of items in the iterator). Therefore you can write your function as follows: def func(iterable): iterator = iter(iterable) for first in iterable: return process(first, iterator) else: raise ValueError("need non-empty iterable") -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Ethan Furman wrote: Arnaud Delobelle wrote: I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: print(x) return raise ValueError("... empty iterable") For the immediate case this is a cool solution. Drat -- I have to take that back -- the OP stated: > The intention is: > > * detect an empty iterator by catching StopIteration; > * if the iterator is empty, raise a ValueError; > * otherwise process the iterator. Presumably, the print(x) would be replaced with code that processed the entire iterable (including x, of course), and not just its first element. ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Ethan Furman wrote: Please don't top-post. Rob Richardson wrote: -Original Message- I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: print(x) return raise ValueError("... empty iterable") Or using 3.x's next's optional second argument: _nonext=object() def func(iterable): x = next(iter(iterable), _nonext) if x is _nonext: raise ValueError("... empty iterable") print(x) > Arnaud, > > Wouldn't your first suggestion exit after the first element in > iterable? No, it hit's return instead. Doh -- Yes, it does. It seems both solutions only get the first element, not all elements in the iterator... Maybe this instead: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: break else: raise ValueError("... empty iterable") for xx in chain((x, ), iterable): process(xx) Can't say as I care for this -- better to fix the unwanted nesting in the tracebacks from raise. ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Arnaud Delobelle wrote: I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: print(x) return raise ValueError("... empty iterable") For the immediate case this is a cool solution. Unfortunately, it doesn't fix the unwanted nesting of exceptions problem. ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
"Rob Richardson" writes: You shouldn't top-post! > Arnaud, > > Wouldn't your first suggestion exit after the first element in iterable? Yes, after printing that element, which is what the code I quoted did. > And would your second suggestion throw an exception after normal > processing of all elements in the interator? No. It would have the same behaviour as the first one. > RobR > > -Original Message- > > > I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: > > def func(iterable): > for x in iterable: > print(x) > return > raise ValueError("... empty iterable") > > Or using 3.x's next's optional second argument: > > _nonext=object() > def func(iterable): > x = next(iter(iterable), _nonext) > if x is _nonext: > raise ValueError("... empty iterable") > print(x) > > -- > Arnaud -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Please don't top-post. Rob Richardson wrote: -Original Message- I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: print(x) return raise ValueError("... empty iterable") Or using 3.x's next's optional second argument: _nonext=object() def func(iterable): x = next(iter(iterable), _nonext) if x is _nonext: raise ValueError("... empty iterable") print(x) > Arnaud, > > Wouldn't your first suggestion exit after the first element in > iterable? No, it hit's return instead. > And would your second suggestion throw an exception after normal > processing of all elements in the interator? Looks like the second solution doesn't process the entire iterable, just it's first element. ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Arnaud, Wouldn't your first suggestion exit after the first element in iterable? And would your second suggestion throw an exception after normal processing of all elements in the interator? RobR -Original Message- I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: print(x) return raise ValueError("... empty iterable") Or using 3.x's next's optional second argument: _nonext=object() def func(iterable): x = next(iter(iterable), _nonext) if x is _nonext: raise ValueError("... empty iterable") print(x) -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Paul Rubin writes: > Steven D'Aprano writes: >> Apart from this horrible idiom: >> >> def func(iterable): >> it = iter(iterable) >> failed = False >> try: >> x = next(it) >> except StopIteration: >> failed = True >> if failed: >> raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") >> print(x) >> >> >> or similar, is there really no way to avoid these chained exceptions? > > Seems like yet another example of people doing messy things with > exceptions that can easily be done with iterators and itertools: > > from itertools import islice > > def func(iterable): > xs = list(islice(iter(iterable), 1)) > if len(xs) == 0: > raise ValueError(...) > print xs[0] > > It's really unfortunate, though, that Python 3 didn't offer a way to > peek at the next element of an iterable and test emptiness directly. I missed the start of this discussion but there are two simpler ways: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: print(x) return raise ValueError("... empty iterable") Or using 3.x's next's optional second argument: _nonext=object() def func(iterable): x = next(iter(iterable), _nonext) if x is _nonext: raise ValueError("... empty iterable") print(x) -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On 12/7/2010 1:48 AM, MRAB wrote: > Perhaps Python could use Guido's time machine to check whether the > sequence will yield another object in the future. :-) Since there's only one time machine that would effectively be a lock across all Python interpreters. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon 2011 Atlanta March 9-17 http://us.pycon.org/ See Python Video! http://python.mirocommunity.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On 12/7/2010 5:58 AM, John Nagle wrote: >PEP 255, like too much Python literature, doesn't distinguish clearly > between the language definition and implementation detail. It says > "The mechanics of StopIteration are low-level details, much like the > mechanics of IndexError in Python 2.1". Applications shouldn't be > explicitly using StopIteration. > So you don't think that we should rely on iterables with no __iter__() method to raise IndexError to terminate iterations when their __getitem__() is called with an invalid index? The IndexError mechanism was, to the best of my less-than-complete knowledge, used by all pre-2.2 implementations. The quoted paragraph appears to be intended to reassure the applications programmer that there is no normal need to handle StopIteration specially - just as there was no need to handle IndexError specially. >IronPython doesn't do StopIteration the same way CPython does. > > http://ironpython.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=IPy1.0.xCPyDifferences > Perhaps not, but the only difference is what happens on repeated calls to next() after the iterator is exhausted. The iterator still terminates by raising a StopIteration error. I have no idea what Shed Skin does, but to the extent that iterators don't raise StopIteration on exhaustion I'd say it is in error. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon 2011 Atlanta March 9-17 http://us.pycon.org/ See Python Video! http://python.mirocommunity.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
John Nagle writes: >PEP 255, like too much Python literature, doesn't distinguish > clearly between the language definition and implementation detail. It > says "The mechanics of StopIteration are low-level details, much like > the mechanics of IndexError in Python 2.1". Applications shouldn't be > explicitly using StopIteration. You've twisted the words by quoting them out of context, and have attempted to force a misinterpretation of `low-level details' as `implementation detail'. That text comes from a question-and-answer section, in response to the question `why not force termination to be spelled "StopIteration"?'. This is a fine answer to the question: the details of the (preexisting -- see PEP 234) iteration protocol are abstracted by the generator syntax. But it doesn't at all mean that the StopIteration exception isn't an official, use-visible part of Python. >IronPython doesn't do StopIteration the same way CPython does. > > http://ironpython.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=IPy1.0.xCPyDifferences IronPython's behaviour when you try to fetch items from a spent generator is different. It still implements the same iterator protocol, and raises StopIteration when it has no more items to yield. You're not stupid, but you'd have to be in order to think that these references support your claim that > >> You're not entitled to assume that StopIteration is how a generator > >> exits. That's a CPyton thing; generators were a retrofit, and > >> that's how they were hacked in. Other implementations may do > >> generators differently. I don't want to conclude that you're not arguing in good faith but I'm not seeing many other possibilities. -- [mdw] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On 12/6/2010 4:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:13:40 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: It's really unfortunate, though, that Python 3 didn't offer a way to peek at the next element of an iterable and test emptiness directly. This idea of peekable iterables just won't die, despite the obvious flaws in the idea. There's no general way of telling whether or not a lazy sequence is done except to actually generate the next value, and caching that value is not appropriate for all such sequences since it could depend on factors which have changed between the call to peek and the call to next. Right. Pascal had the predicates "eoln(file)" and "eof(file)", which were tests for end of line and end of file made before reading. This caused much grief with interactive input, because the test would stall waiting for the user to type something. Wirth originally intended Pascal for batch jobs, and his version didn't translate well to interactive use. (Wirth fell in love with his original recursive-descent compiler, which was simple but limited. He hated to have language features that didn't fit his compiler model well. This held the language back and eventually killed it.) C I/O returned a unique value on EOF, but there was no way to test for it before reading. Works much better. The same issues apply to pipes, sockets, qeueues, interprocess communication, etc. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On 12/6/2010 2:24 PM, Mark Wooding wrote: John Nagle writes: Right. You're not entitled to assume that StopIteration is how a generator exits. That's a CPyton thing; generators were a retrofit, and that's how they were hacked in. Other implementations may do generators differently. This is simply wrong. The StopIteration exception is a clear part of the generator protocol as described in 5.2.8 of the language reference; the language reference also refers to 3.5 of the library reference, which describes the iterator protocol (note, not the generator implementation -- all iterators work the same way), and explicitly mentions StopIteration as part of the protocol. -- [mdw] PEP 255, like too much Python literature, doesn't distinguish clearly between the language definition and implementation detail. It says "The mechanics of StopIteration are low-level details, much like the mechanics of IndexError in Python 2.1". Applications shouldn't be explicitly using StopIteration. IronPython doesn't do StopIteration the same way CPython does. http://ironpython.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=IPy1.0.xCPyDifferences Neither does Shed Skin. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On 07/12/2010 00:23, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:13:40 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: It's really unfortunate, though, that Python 3 didn't offer a way to peek at the next element of an iterable and test emptiness directly. This idea of peekable iterables just won't die, despite the obvious flaws in the idea. There's no general way of telling whether or not a lazy sequence is done except to actually generate the next value, and caching that value is not appropriate for all such sequences since it could depend on factors which have changed between the call to peek and the call to next. If you want to implement a peek method in your own iterables, go right ahead. But you can't make arbitrary iterables peekable without making a significant class of them buggy. Perhaps Python could use Guido's time machine to check whether the sequence will yield another object in the future. :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:13:40 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > It's really unfortunate, though, that Python 3 didn't offer a way to > peek at the next element of an iterable and test emptiness directly. This idea of peekable iterables just won't die, despite the obvious flaws in the idea. There's no general way of telling whether or not a lazy sequence is done except to actually generate the next value, and caching that value is not appropriate for all such sequences since it could depend on factors which have changed between the call to peek and the call to next. If you want to implement a peek method in your own iterables, go right ahead. But you can't make arbitrary iterables peekable without making a significant class of them buggy. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
John Nagle writes: > Right. You're not entitled to assume that StopIteration is how a > generator exits. That's a CPyton thing; generators were a retrofit, > and that's how they were hacked in. Other implementations may do > generators differently. This is simply wrong. The StopIteration exception is a clear part of the generator protocol as described in 5.2.8 of the language reference; the language reference also refers to 3.5 of the library reference, which describes the iterator protocol (note, not the generator implementation -- all iterators work the same way), and explicitly mentions StopIteration as part of the protocol. -- [mdw] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Steven D'Aprano writes: > Apart from this horrible idiom: > > def func(iterable): > it = iter(iterable) > failed = False > try: > x = next(it) > except StopIteration: > failed = True > if failed: > raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") > print(x) > > > or similar, is there really no way to avoid these chained exceptions? Seems like yet another example of people doing messy things with exceptions that can easily be done with iterators and itertools: from itertools import islice def func(iterable): xs = list(islice(iter(iterable), 1)) if len(xs) == 0: raise ValueError(...) print xs[0] It's really unfortunate, though, that Python 3 didn't offer a way to peek at the next element of an iterable and test emptiness directly. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On 12/3/2010 5:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Consider the following common exception handling idiom: def func(iterable): it = iter(iterable) try: x = next(it) except StopIteration: raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") print(x) The intention is: * detect an empty iterator by catching StopIteration; * if the iterator is empty, raise a ValueError; * otherwise process the iterator. Note that StopIteration is an internal detail of no relevance whatsoever to the caller. Expose this is unnecessary at best and confusing at worst. Right. You're not entitled to assume that StopIteration is how a generator exits. That's a CPyton thing; generators were a retrofit, and that's how they were hacked in. Other implementations may do generators differently. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:08:38 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: > After rereading the original post I still don't get why the workarounds > provided in those links aren't worth considering. The first work-around: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html is unsuitable because it requires the caller to install a custom excepthook. It would be rude and unacceptable for arbitrary functions to install hooks, possibly stomping all over the caller's own custom excepthook. And even if I did, or the caller did, it has the unfortunate side-effect of suppressing the display of *all* chained exceptions, including those that come from the bugs in exception handlers. The second work-around might be worth considering: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html however it adds unnecessary boilerplate to what should be a simple try...except...raise block, it obscures the intention of the code. As a work-around, it might be worth considering, but it's hardly elegant and it could very well be a fluke of the implementation rather than a guaranteed promise of the language. In the absence of a supported way to suppress exception chaining, I'm leaning towards my original work-around: set a flag in the except block, then raise the exception once I leave the block. But thanks again for the links. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:26:19 +0100, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > >>> Note that StopIteration is an internal detail of no relevance >>> whatsoever to the caller. Expose this is unnecessary at best and >>> confusing at worst. >> >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html Thanks for the links Peter. > Both of these involve suppressing the chaining at the wrong place, > namely in the outer handler or, worse yet, in the exception display > mechanism. Steven, on the other hand, wants his *inner* handler to > express that the original exception was an implementation detail, a > business exception such as StopIteration, that is completely irrelevant > to the actual exception being raised. Yes, exactly! Python 3.x exposes completely irrelevant and internal details in the traceback. > The outer handler is the wrong > place to suppress the chaining because it has no way of distinguishing > Steven's case from a genuine case of a new exception unexpectedly > occurring during handling of the original exception. > > One solution would be for "raise" inside except to not use the context. I would have thought that was such an obvious solution that I was gobsmacked to discover the PEP 3134 hadn't already considered it. If you *explicitly* raise an exception inside an exception handler, surely it's because you want to suppress the previous exception as an internal detail? If not, and you want to chain it with the previous exception, the solution is simple, obvious and straight-forward: explicit chaining. try: something() except SomeException as exc: raise MyException from exc > For example: > > try: > {}[1] > except KeyError: > 1/0 > > would behave as before, but: Yes, that presumably would be a bug and should chain exceptions. > But: > > try: > {}[1] > except KeyError: > raise Exception("my error") > > ...would raise the custom error forgetting the KeyError. That's exactly the behaviour I would expect and I'm surprised that this feature was put into production without some simple way to support this idiom. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:15:58 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: >> def func(iterable): >> it = iter(iterable) >> failed = False >> try: >> x = next(it) >> except StopIteration: >> failed = True >> if failed: >> raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") >> print(x) > > Untested: > > from itertools import islice > > def func(iterable): >xs = list(islice(iter(iterable), 1)) >if len(xs) == 0: > raise ValueError(...) >print xs[0] If you're intention was to make me feel better about the version above that sets a flag, you succeeded admirably! :) -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Peter Otten wrote: Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: Note that StopIteration is an internal detail of no relevance whatsoever to the caller. Expose this is unnecessary at best and confusing at worst. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html Both of these involve suppressing the chaining at the wrong place, namely in the outer handler or, worse yet, in the exception display mechanism. Steven, on the other hand, wants his *inner* handler to express that the original exception was an implementation detail, a business exception such as StopIteration, that is completely irrelevant to the actual exception being raised. The outer handler is the wrong place to suppress the chaining because it has no way of distinguishing Steven's case from a genuine case of a new exception unexpectedly occurring during handling of the original exception. To quote the Rolling Stones: You can't always get what you want. After rereading the original post I still don't get why the workarounds provided in those links aren't worth considering. For me at least it's a matter of simplicity, clarity, and the Way of the Python ;) The workarounds are boiler-plate for a fairly common situation, and one of the things i _love_ about python is the *lack* of boilerplate. I think the real question is is there any progress on dealing with the Open Issue in the PEP? Open Issue: Suppressing Context As written, this PEP makes it impossible to suppress '__context__', since setting exc.__context__ to None in an 'except' or 'finally' clause will only result in it being set again when exc is raised. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3134/ ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Peter Otten wrote: > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html I found #6210 on bugs.python.org -- does anyone know if there are any others regarding this issue? Or any progress on MRAB's idea? MRAB wrote: > Suggestion: an explicit 'raise' in the exception handler excludes the > context, but if you want to include it then 'raise with'. For example: > > # Exclude the context > try: > command_dict[command]() > except KeyError: > raise CommandError("Unknown command") > > # Include the context > try: > command_dict[command]() > except KeyError: > raise with CommandError("Unknown command") ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Steven D'Aprano writes: > def func(iterable): > it = iter(iterable) > failed = False > try: > x = next(it) > except StopIteration: > failed = True > if failed: > raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") > print(x) Untested: from itertools import islice def func(iterable): xs = list(islice(iter(iterable), 1)) if len(xs) == 0: raise ValueError(...) print xs[0] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > >>> Note that StopIteration is an internal detail of no relevance whatsoever >>> to the caller. Expose this is unnecessary at best and confusing at >>> worst. >> >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html > > Both of these involve suppressing the chaining at the wrong place, > namely in the outer handler or, worse yet, in the exception display > mechanism. Steven, on the other hand, wants his *inner* handler to > express that the original exception was an implementation detail, a > business exception such as StopIteration, that is completely irrelevant > to the actual exception being raised. The outer handler is the wrong > place to suppress the chaining because it has no way of distinguishing > Steven's case from a genuine case of a new exception unexpectedly > occurring during handling of the original exception. To quote the Rolling Stones: You can't always get what you want. After rereading the original post I still don't get why the workarounds provided in those links aren't worth considering. Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: >> Note that StopIteration is an internal detail of no relevance whatsoever >> to the caller. Expose this is unnecessary at best and confusing at worst. > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html Both of these involve suppressing the chaining at the wrong place, namely in the outer handler or, worse yet, in the exception display mechanism. Steven, on the other hand, wants his *inner* handler to express that the original exception was an implementation detail, a business exception such as StopIteration, that is completely irrelevant to the actual exception being raised. The outer handler is the wrong place to suppress the chaining because it has no way of distinguishing Steven's case from a genuine case of a new exception unexpectedly occurring during handling of the original exception. One solution would be for "raise" inside except to not use the context. For example: try: {}[1] except KeyError: 1/0 would behave as before, but: But: try: {}[1] except KeyError: raise Exception("my error") ...would raise the custom error forgetting the KeyError. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Consider the following common exception handling idiom: > > def func(iterable): > it = iter(iterable) > try: > x = next(it) > except StopIteration: > raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") > print(x) > > The intention is: > > * detect an empty iterator by catching StopIteration; > * if the iterator is empty, raise a ValueError; > * otherwise process the iterator. > > Note that StopIteration is an internal detail of no relevance whatsoever > to the caller. Expose this is unnecessary at best and confusing at worst. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1258606.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-October/1259024.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Exception handling in Python 3.x
Steven D'Aprano writes: > Consider the following common exception handling idiom: > > def func(iterable): > it = iter(iterable) > try: > x = next(it) > except StopIteration: > raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") > print(x) Not exactly what you're looking for, but another way to express the above is: def func(iterable): for x in iterable: break else: raise ValueError("can't process empty iterable") print(x) Otherwise, I completely agree that being unable to completely replace the original exception is an annoyance at best. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list