Re: OT: pronounciation [was: list index()]

2007-09-04 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-08-31, Paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Aug 31, 11:19 am, Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim Golden wrote:
  Erik Max Francis wrote:
  Paddy wrote:

  I say the 'oll' in troll like the 'ol' in frolic, and pronounce roll
  and role similarly.

  My accent is probably from the East Midlands of the UK, but is not
  pronounced.
  _Troll_ and _frolic_ aren't pronounced with the same o sound in any
  accent I've ever heard of.  Which you pronounce _boat_ and _bot_ the
  same way, too?

  [Amusingly contemplating a trolling war about the pronunciation of troll]

  Well they sound the same in my more-or-less South London accent.
  I can't write those funny phonetic symbols (and I hate to
  imagine the Unicode encoding hoops I'd have to jump through
  to make them readable anyway) but both os sound short to me.
  Like bot rather than boat using your example.

 Since we're talking... I'm still a little startled when I listen
 to some of the excellent webcasts that are being produced these
 days (showmedo.com and friends) and hear American voices pronounce
 Python... well, the way they do, with the stress and something of a
 drawl on the second syllable. I'm sure it's just as amusing the other
 way round: we pronounce it with the stress on the first syllable and
 the characteristic short vowel sound in the second.
 (Something like: Pie'thun).

 TJG

 The only true way of pronouncing Python (the computing language), is
 the way it is done at the beginning of Monty Pythons Flying Circus of
 course :-)

 Your right, the American way does make me pause.

Ya'll can keep yer gall-dern schwa outta my Pie-thawn, ya hear?

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Re: OT: pronounciation [was: list index()]

2007-08-31 Thread Paddy
On Aug 31, 11:19 am, Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim Golden wrote:
  Erik Max Francis wrote:
  Paddy wrote:

  I say the 'oll' in troll like the 'ol' in frolic, and pronounce roll
  and role similarly.

  My accent is probably from the East Midlands of the UK, but is not
  pronounced.
  _Troll_ and _frolic_ aren't pronounced with the same o sound in any
  accent I've ever heard of.  Which you pronounce _boat_ and _bot_ the
  same way, too?

  [Amusingly contemplating a trolling war about the pronunciation of troll]

  Well they sound the same in my more-or-less South London accent.
  I can't write those funny phonetic symbols (and I hate to
  imagine the Unicode encoding hoops I'd have to jump through
  to make them readable anyway) but both os sound short to me.
  Like bot rather than boat using your example.

 Since we're talking... I'm still a little startled when I listen
 to some of the excellent webcasts that are being produced these
 days (showmedo.com and friends) and hear American voices pronounce
 Python... well, the way they do, with the stress and something of a
 drawl on the second syllable. I'm sure it's just as amusing the other
 way round: we pronounce it with the stress on the first syllable and
 the characteristic short vowel sound in the second.
 (Something like: Pie'thun).

 TJG

The only true way of pronouncing Python (the computing language), is
the way it is done at the beginning of Monty Pythons Flying Circus of
course :-)

Your right, the American way does make me pause.

- Paddy.

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