Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-15 Thread Jan Claeys
Op Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:09:15 -0800, schreef MartinRinehart:

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:
 
 The best thing about Python is ___.
 
 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

The best thing about Python is how it tries to find the perfect balance 
between elegance, practicality  clarity.


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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-10 Thread Caleb
 The best thing about Python is ___.

this.
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-09 Thread MartinRinehart
Thanks to all for many helpful suggestions.

Python, by the way, is verbose when compared to APL. (See
http://catpad.net/michael/apl/ if you don't believe this.) You need to
stick in an adverb (maybe gracefully concise) as standalone
concise is owned by APL.

Basilisk96 wrote:
 Did programmers stop writing programs on punch cards because they ran
 out of punch paper?

If you drive on the NYS Thruway, you still get a punch card when you
enter. You turn it in when you pay your toll.
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-09 Thread Paddy
On Jan 9, 1:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for many helpful suggestions.

 Python, by the way, is verbose when compared to APL. 
 (Seehttp://catpad.net/michael/apl/if you don't believe this.) You need to
 stick in an adverb (maybe gracefully concise) as standalone
 concise is owned by APL.

 Basilisk96 wrote:
  Did programmers stop writing programs on punch cards because they ran
  out of punch paper?

 If you drive on the NYS Thruway, you still get a punch card when you
 enter. You turn it in when you pay your toll.

I didn't reread my blog post! I meant Python is *succinct* with
definition:
  http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/succinct?view=uk

Briefly and clearly expressed.

(I should engage brain before typing).

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-08 Thread alain
On Jan 7, 6:27 pm, Henry Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What exactly does it mean a bycycle for the mind??

 (assuming s/bycycle/bicycle)

Sorry for my bad spelling.
The original quote from Steve Jobs reads the computer is a bicycle
for the mind.
This is what i feel when programming in Python: a productivity boost
compared to pedestrians and an immense pleasure.

Alain





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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:
 
 The best thing about Python is ___.
 
 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

its pencil-like qualities

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-08 Thread Carl Banks
On Jan 7, 6:29 pm, MRAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 7, 5:40 pm, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] wrote:
   The best thing about Python is ___.

  it's pythonicness.

 I think it sounds better as its pythonicity.

Mixing Greek and Latin suffixes usually works better than mixing Greek
and Germanic, doesn't it.


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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-08 Thread James Matthews
We have such nice names so the word Python will be something people like and
not something people fear (A massive 12 foot snake) and Pythonic is a
behavior pattern we should all follow! In layman's terms it means we should
all act like snakes a little more!

On Jan 8, 2008 5:13 PM, Carl Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 7, 6:29 pm, MRAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 7, 5:40 pm, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The best thing about Python is ___.
 
   it's pythonicness.
 
  I think it sounds better as its pythonicity.

 Mixing Greek and Latin suffixes usually works better than mixing Greek
 and Germanic, doesn't it.


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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-08 Thread Basilisk96
On Jan 7, 8:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

Here's a new word -
...its humanicity factor.

That definition, according to me, is:
its ability to let you *quickly* formulate and solve your problem in
the way that YOU see it, not as the computer sees it.

Did programmers stop writing programs on punch cards because they ran
out of punch paper?

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Pablo Ziliani
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

Hi Martin, here is my top three:

1) Fun
2) Simplicity
3) Productivity
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Neil Cerutti
On Jan 7, 2008 8:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.


...its bundled library.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Dustan
On Jan 7, 7:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

Here's a modest list:

Masterly, tops, best obtainable, high-grade, very good, select,
outstanding, exemplary, top-notch, boss, first-rate, crack, smashing,
excelling, prime, skilled, crackerjack, sublime, super, terrific,
peerless, notable, paramount, divine, premium, hand-picked, estimable,
admirable, prize, choice, competent, desirable, attractive, foremost,
to be desired, A-one, top-flight, dandy, incomparable, grade A,
capital, great, dynamite, heavenly, unique, refined, matchless, high-
quality, well-done, A-OK, blue-chip, frontline, sensational, highest,
jim-dandy, splendid, extraordinary, exquisite, superlative, worthy,
masterful, distinguished, magnificent, tiptop, accomplished, all
right, first, first-class, fine, very fine, ace-high, exceptional,
sharp, supreme, marvelous, transcendent, praiseworthy, custom-made,
remarkable, world-class, invaluable, groovy, champion, rare, best,
wonderful, superb, choicest, enticing, top, superfine, commendable,
skillful, neat, striking, distinctive, priceless, sterling, superior,
cool, classy, finest, hot, keen, above par.
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread alain
On Jan 7, 2:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

Paraphrasing Steve Jobs but in this context:
PYTHON = a bycycle for the mind

Best regards

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Tim Chase
 The best thing about Python is ___.

+ readable
+ productive
+ mind-fitting

-tkc


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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Martin Marcher
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 The best thing about Python is ___.

it's pythonicness.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Henry Chang
What exactly does it mean a bycycle for the mind??

(assuming s/bycycle/bicycle)

On Jan 7, 2008 5:41 AM, alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 7, 2:09pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
  convinced that
 
  1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
  language
 
  2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.
 
  Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
  completes:
 
  The best thing about Python is ___.
 
  Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
  grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

 Paraphrasing Steve Jobs but in this context:
 PYTHON = a bycycle for the mind

 Best regards

 Alain

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Paddy
On Jan 7, 1:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

Concise!
See http://paddy3118.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html
For my search!

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread George Sakkis
On Jan 7, 8:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

... it's a pleasure to write *and* read.
... it keeps simple things simple and makes hard things doable.
... it's the language that sucks the least.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Dustan
On Jan 7, 11:40 am, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's pythonicness.

it is pythonicness???
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Martin Marcher
On Monday 07 January 2008 21:25 Dustan wrote:

 On Jan 7, 11:40 am, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's pythonicness.
 
 it is pythonicness???

not all here are native english speakers, but thanks for the correction.
I'll try to keep it in mind.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Pablo Ziliani
Dustan wrote:
 On Jan 7, 11:40 am, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 it's pythonicness.
 

 it is pythonicness???
   

Obviously a typo, for It is pythonic, Ness.
A reference to the well-known Loch Ness Monster, definitely pythonic if 
you see some pictures:
http://images.google.com/images?q=loch+ness


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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Stefan Behnel
Henry Chang wrote:
 On Jan 7, 2008 5:41 AM, alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paraphrasing Steve Jobs but in this context:
 PYTHON = a bycycle for the mind
 What exactly does it mean a bycycle for the mind??

Ask the Dutch guy near you.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Ben Finney
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 The best thing about Python is ___.

The best thing about Python is its elegance.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread James Matthews
Just Another Vague Acronym = (Java)

On Jan 7, 2008 10:32 PM, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The best thing about Python is ___.

 The best thing about Python is its elegance.

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Joe Riopel
On Jan 7, 2008 8:09 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The best thing about Python is ___.

it's mailing list.
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread Carl Banks
On Jan 7, 8:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

it doesn't suck.


(Really.  All programming languages have good, useful features.  Even
Perl.  Python is unique in having no very bad ones.)

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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread MRAB
On Jan 7, 5:40 pm, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The best thing about Python is ___.

 it's pythonicness.

I think it sounds better as its pythonicity.
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Re: Python's great, in a word

2008-01-07 Thread jo3c
On Jan 7, 9:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a Java guy who's been doing Python for a month now and I'm
 convinced that

 1) a multi-paradigm language is inherently better than a mono-paradigm
 language

 2) Python writes like a talented figure skater skates.

 Would you Python old-timers try to agree on a word or two that
 completes:

 The best thing about Python is ___.

 Please, no laundry lists, just a word or two. I'm thinking fluid or
 grace but I'm not sure I've done enough to choose.

skimpythong!!
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