Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 05:56 Michael Torrie, wrote: > > My mistake. I see now that it was something you forwarded to the list > from someone else. > > Doesn't change my reply, though. Whoever said it, it's not very > relevant. Who's "us" and what is it the Python gives them that Julia > will soon take over? > Don't worry about it, that's how Python lists are. There's an unwritten law that tells whatever thread you start, folks around have the ability to teleport the conversion to higher realms. Here is a Julia ending, another one ended with running Python in the browser. That got me scratching my head as to what i started and what folks end up talking about. > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On 1/6/20 6:33 PM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > No, i did not write that, it's not Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote rather My mistake. I see now that it was something you forwarded to the list from someone else. Doesn't change my reply, though. Whoever said it, it's not very relevant. Who's "us" and what is it the Python gives them that Julia will soon take over? Python is lots of things to lots of different people. I'm not surprised it fits some people's needs more than others. Julia is a fine language and I encourage the original poster to explore it if it fits his or her needs. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
No, i did not write that, it's not Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote rather -- Forwarded message - From: *AAKASH JANA* Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 21:15 Subject: Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft To: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer Please forward it to aakashjana2...@gmail.com On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 01:21 Michael Torrie, wrote: > On 1/6/20 10:24 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > Maybe but if you know or have heard of Julia the language. You will > realise > > its going to take over what python gives us. So i think there is urgent > > need for upgrades to newer versions of python to make basic tasks on > python > > way quicker. > > No it sure won't. You can't possibly make such a blanket statement. > Julia might replace python for some users, perhaps those involved in > data science, but Python stands on its own merits. And currently that > standing is pretty good. If that changes in the future, oh well. > Languages come and go. Besides all that, if some users find Julia fits > their need better, why is that a bad thing? You talk like it's a zero > sum game. It's not. I don't see where this urgency is coming from. > > Put in another way, Python fills the needs of many users at present. > This isn't going to magically change because you see something that is > deficient in your opinion. > > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On 1/6/20 10:24 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > Maybe but if you know or have heard of Julia the language. You will realise > its going to take over what python gives us. So i think there is urgent > need for upgrades to newer versions of python to make basic tasks on python > way quicker. No it sure won't. You can't possibly make such a blanket statement. Julia might replace python for some users, perhaps those involved in data science, but Python stands on its own merits. And currently that standing is pretty good. If that changes in the future, oh well. Languages come and go. Besides all that, if some users find Julia fits their need better, why is that a bad thing? You talk like it's a zero sum game. It's not. I don't see where this urgency is coming from. Put in another way, Python fills the needs of many users at present. This isn't going to magically change because you see something that is deficient in your opinion. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 21:01 Chris Angelico, wrote: > > Don't worry. It's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, in a > platform-specific way, imitating a completely different execution > model, and ultimately is just reinventing what pip already does. You > can safely ignore it for plenty of reasons besides the misuse of > "executable". > Hum it proposes to enhance zipapp, well, pip has it's use and i don't think package managers are a replacement for zip archives. > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 20:46 Rhodri James, wrote: > > I'm an embedded systems programmer. Congratulations, you have just > rendered your draft utterly irrelevant to me and those like me. > If you followed the previous thread there was some misunderstanding as to what do i mean by executable, sorry. > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 18:37 o1bigtenor, wrote: > > Maybe I'm just slow but it really seems like what you are trying to > achieve is > a java like system. > > Wouldn't you find it easier to just use java rather than trying to remake > Python into Java? (It would be easier imo.) > It proposes to enhance zipapp but included relevent info to pull in ideas > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:47 AM Rhodri James wrote: > > On 06/01/2020 10:21, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > Before we begin, we'd like to define the term executable used in the context > > of this draft. It means an archive that is run by double-clicking. > > I'm an embedded systems programmer. Congratulations, you have just > rendered your draft utterly irrelevant to me and those like me. > Don't worry. It's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, in a platform-specific way, imitating a completely different execution model, and ultimately is just reinventing what pip already does. You can safely ignore it for plenty of reasons besides the misuse of "executable". ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On 06/01/2020 10:21, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: Before we begin, we'd like to define the term executable used in the context of this draft. It means an archive that is run by double-clicking. I'm an embedded systems programmer. Congratulations, you have just rendered your draft utterly irrelevant to me and those like me. -- Rhodri James *-* Kynesim Ltd -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:23 AM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > Note: Prepared a draft on the previous discussion, motivated by the vision > of > an era where the world swarms in Python apps. This draft is not a PEP, at > least > not yet. It's structure approaches a PEP but takes liberties as necessary. > It > includes info deemed as essential. Thanking list members for their input. > Maybe I'm just slow but it really seems like what you are trying to achieve is a java like system. Wouldn't you find it easier to just use java rather than trying to remake Python into Java? (It would be easier imo.) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
