Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Tkinter is the GUI toolkit that comes with Python and is available on all platform without any installation effort. It is quite OK for simple things and I would recommend it for any beginner. Google for "An Introduction to Tkinter" by F. Lund. Michele Simionato -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
wxPython is another good option, especially since there is boa-constructor, which is a great GUI builder, almost makes it too easy to make a nice looking app in no time at all. http://www.wxpython.org/download.php http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/ if you decide to give wxPython a go, make sure to download the demo, it has tons of usefull code samples. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Glurt Wuntal wrote: > I am a newbie with Python. It's a great language, but I would like to be > able to present a simple gui menu for some of my scripts; something better > than using 'raw_input' prompts. > > Any recommendations for a program that will allow me to create the gui > screens? Something useable in Linux. > > thanks. > There are Python bindings to most GUI toolkits (GTK+, Qt, fltk, wxWindows, and Tk come to mind). You could use any of them. They're all usable in GNU/Linux. -- Tk is a mature, small, and simple toolkit. The Python binding to Tk is called Tkinter. -- GTK+ is what most Gnome apps use. The Python binding is PyGTK. http://www.pygtk.org/ -- Qt is what most KDE apps use. The Python binding is called PyQt. -- wxWindows is a lot like MS Windows MFC if I recall correctly. The Python binding to wxWindows is called wxPython. http://www.wxpython.org/ -- For a terminal-based text-mode character-cell display program, you could use ncurses. http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/curses/ http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/charming_python_6.html ---John -- (remove zeez if demunging email address) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
John M. Gabriele wrote: > > There are Python bindings to most GUI toolkits (GTK+, Qt, fltk, wxWindows, > and Tk come to mind). Whoops. Forgot fltk with the pyFLTK Python binding. fltk is a fast, light, toolkit that's written in C++ but (again, IIRC) feels more like C-with-classes (which isn't a bad thing). ---John -- (remove zeez if demunging email address) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
John M. Gabriele wrote: > -- GTK+ is what most Gnome apps use. The Python binding is PyGTK. > http://www.pygtk.org/ [snip] > -- wxWindows is a lot like MS Windows MFC if I recall correctly. > The Python binding to wxWindows is called wxPython. > http://www.wxpython.org/ Note that wxWindows wraps native widgets, so a wxPython application will use the native Windows widgets on windows, gtk widgets on Linux/GNOME, Mac widgets on the Mac, etc. I usually use wxPython for application development, but for my window manager I'm using pygtk since it needs to be somewhat lower level and portability to other platforms isn't a concern (turns out even that isn't quite low-level enough for some things, so I drop down to accessing the X event queue directly from C in a couple of cases). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On 2006-03-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that wxWindows wraps native widgets, Not on Linux/KDE systems. ;) -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ANN JILLIAN'S HAIR at makes LONI ANDERSON'S visi.comHAIR look like RICARDO MONTALBAN'S HAIR! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2006-03-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Note that wxWindows wraps native widgets, > > Not on Linux/KDE systems. ;) Right, I followed that with a clarification of supported systems. You can use wxwindows with gtk-qt to get a Qt-ish look, although that's not ideal. The issue with wxqt is licensing; wxWindows is open-source, but not GPL (it allows closed-source app development); gtk is LGPL'd so that's not an issue, but Qt is GPL'd. Julian Smart (wxwindows developer) contacted Troll for license clarifications but didn't get a response (or not a useful one, I can't remember the specifics). There's no ideological opposition to a qt implementation if the licensing can be resolved (indeed they're willing to work with fully closed-source toolkits, they just don't want to force application developers using their toolkit to use a particular license). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Glurt Wuntal (02.03.2006 15:56): > I am a newbie with Python. It's a great language, but I would like to be > able to present a simple gui menu for some of my scripts; something better > than using 'raw_input' prompts. > If you only need some dialogs, input and/or message boxes, you could start with EasyGUI. http://www.ferg.org/easygui/ Matthias -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Hi I, too, am a python newbie and have wrestled with GUI programming. I think I am winning, but its been a struggle. >From what I have gleaned, there are three and a half options. The half is easygui - see http://www.ferg.org/easygui - which allows you to place pop up dialogues in procedural code. Apart from that there's Tkinter, PyGtk and wxPython. I never tried wxPython as it wasn't installed on my system. I struggled with PyGtk (http://www.pygtk.org/) and eventually gave up - somehow I could never get to work any code which wasn't an exact copy of the tutorial. Which leaves Tkinter, and here, with the help of Frederik Lundh's tutorial and manual (http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/) , I have been able to get results. Not perfect - if you search you'll find a number of my posts on this newsgroup when I was stuck, and the manual is incomplete (why - given that Tkinter is the de facto standard?). But for me at least Tkinter provided a way forwards. Good Luck Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On 3 Mar 2006 01:16:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I, too, am a python newbie and have wrestled with GUI programming. I > think I am winning, but its been a struggle. I started with wxPython and struggled with it for a long time. I was able to get the job done, but using it never seemed natural. Then I found the Dabo project, whose ui module wraps wxPython into a much more Pythonic, consistent interface. Since then I've been able to create GUIs without much effort at all. I highly recommend Dabo if you are thinking about wxPython. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Huening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glurt Wuntal (02.03.2006 15:56): > > I am a newbie with Python. It's a great language, but I would like to be > > able to present a simple gui menu for some of my scripts; something better > > than using 'raw_input' prompts. > > > > If you only need some dialogs, input and/or message boxes, you could start > with EasyGUI. > http://www.ferg.org/easygui/ > > Matthias Matthias, Thanks for pointing that out. I got EasyGUI and it works right out of the box. Very nice for quick and dirty GUI stuff. Maybe some good examples of using Tkinter, too. It is only version 0.72 and hasn't been updated by the author since 2004. But it does work and is simple enough that novice users like me might be able to maintain it and extend it. Many thanks to the author (Stephen Ferg) for producing EasyGUI. By the way it was written on a Windows machine and worked perfectly (so far) on my Mac OS X machine. -- Lou Pecora (my views are my own) REMOVE THIS to email me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Title: Re: Write a GUI for a python script? Glurt Wuntal (02.03.2006 15:56): > I am a newbie with Python. It's a great language, but I would like to be > able to present a simple gui menu for some of my scripts; something better > than using 'raw_input' prompts. > Another option is to use Jython, which allows you access to Java as well. So, you can can write the procedural aspects in Python and add GUI support from Java. You're probably looking for Tkinter, but I thought I'd throw the Jython option out there. Jeff -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
Another option would be FarPy GUIE: http://farpy.holev.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:19:34 -0500, "Peter Decker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I started with wxPython and struggled with it for a long time. I was >able to get the job done, but using it never seemed natural. Then I >found the Dabo project, whose ui module wraps wxPython into a much >more Pythonic, consistent interface. Since then I've been able to >create GUIs without much effort at all. I highly recommend Dabo if you >are thinking about wxPython. Dabo does look really nice, but seems like it has a ways to go yet. I downloaded it a couple of weeks ago, and the very first thing I wanted to do doesn't seem to be supported. I tried to create a simple application with a Notebook control inside a frame. The Notebook control doesn't appear to be supported yet. Is that right, or am I just not looking in the right places? Bill -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On 3/4/06, Bill Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dabo does look really nice, but seems like it has a ways to go yet. > > I downloaded it a couple of weeks ago, and the very first thing I wanted > to do doesn't seem to be supported. I tried to create a simple > application with a Notebook control inside a frame. The Notebook > control doesn't appear to be supported yet. > > Is that right, or am I just not looking in the right places? It's fully supported. Their generic term for these paged controls is a 'pageframe', so a wx.Notebook is their dPageFrame class; wx.Listbook is their dPageList class; wx.Choicebook is their dPageSelect, and they also have a page control with no tabs called (gasp!) dPageFrameNoTabs. One thing that they've done is pick names for classes and properties that are the most common for all toolkits instead of blindly following the wx names. All of these classes have the same interface, and respond to the same events. IOW, they've unified these different classes so that they have a single API, making working with them much easier. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:08:35 -0500, "Peter Decker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 3/4/06, Bill Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dabo does look really nice, but seems like it has a ways to go yet. >> >> I downloaded it a couple of weeks ago, and the very first thing I wanted >> to do doesn't seem to be supported. I tried to create a simple >> application with a Notebook control inside a frame. The Notebook >> control doesn't appear to be supported yet. >> >> Is that right, or am I just not looking in the right places? > >It's fully supported. Their generic term for these paged controls is a >'pageframe', so a wx.Notebook is their dPageFrame class; wx.Listbook >is their dPageList class; wx.Choicebook is their dPageSelect, and they >also have a page control with no tabs called (gasp!) dPageFrameNoTabs. >One thing that they've done is pick names for classes and properties >that are the most common for all toolkits instead of blindly following >the wx names. > >All of these classes have the same interface, and respond to the same >events. IOW, they've unified these different classes so that they have >a single API, making working with them much easier. Thanks for the info. Knowing that, I was able to create a simple app in the Dabo Designer that contains a Notebook. But, I'm having a heck of a time finding any documentation at all on Dabo. I looked all thru the website(s), and have combed the Dabo software package itself. Either I'm doing something wrong, or documentation is pretty sparse for Dabo. What little info I could find on the Dabo Wiki seems pretty old. I also watched the two Sizer videos, but there's not enough info there to learn much. I read somewhere that they are concentrating on the User Interface designer instead of the database aspects. The GUI maker is what I'm interested in using, not the rest. I don't want to code the GUI manually. Do you know where I can find more information on the Designer? Thanks, Bill -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On 3/5/06, Bill Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the info. Knowing that, I was able to create a simple app in > the Dabo Designer that contains a Notebook. > > But, I'm having a heck of a time finding any documentation at all on > Dabo. I looked all thru the website(s), and have combed the Dabo > software package itself. > > Either I'm doing something wrong, or documentation is pretty sparse for > Dabo. No, you're not doing anything wrong. There isn't a whole lot of documentation. That's one of the problems with projects being actively developed: the developers are too busy with the development work to step back and write the docs. They have asked for people to help out if they can (it is open source, after all), but there hasn't been a whole lot of that yet. I think a lot of people are like me: they have figured out enough to make it work, and are doing some great stuff with it, but don't feel that they know it enough to document it. > What little info I could find on the Dabo Wiki seems pretty old. I also > watched the two Sizer videos, but there's not enough info there to learn > much. I have to agree. The videos are great, but so much more is needed. One thing I can suggest is to post any questions on the dabo-users list. Both the authors are very responsive and helpful. > I read somewhere that they are concentrating on the User Interface > designer instead of the database aspects. The GUI maker is what I'm > interested in using, not the rest. I don't want to code the GUI > manually. Do you know where I can find more information on the > Designer? I think that the database side of things has been done for over a year, and now they're looking to add support for more database types as people start using it with other stuff. But as far as the GUI Designer goes, I'd post questions on the dabo-users list. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
If you are already familiar with html, you might consider using the browser for the UI. It's pretty much cross-platform, if you ever need that, and users are accustomed to browser look/feel. If your installation doesn't already have a python-enabled http server running, there are several options (python CGI scripts, cherrypy, kerrigell), any one of which is easier to learn and more generally-applicable (I think) than any of the gui toolkits. Ron -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:37 PM, Peter Decker wrote: >> What little info I could find on the Dabo Wiki seems pretty old. >> I also >> watched the two Sizer videos, but there's not enough info there to >> learn >> much. > > I have to agree. The videos are great, but so much more is needed. One > thing I can suggest is to post any questions on the dabo-users list. > Both the authors are very responsive and helpful. Thanks for the compliment. Both Paul and I are very much aware of the lack of documentation, but it feels like anything we write now would become out-of-date quickly, since things (especially in the visual tools area) are changing so rapidly. I am planning on writing some documentation once the Class Designer and Menu Designer are largely completed, because then it will be a while before the next major change, as we look to integrate these tools into an IDE. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPython memory footprint? - Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
ianaré wrote: > wxPython is another good option, especially since there is > boa-constructor, which is a great GUI builder, almost makes it too easy > to make a nice looking app in no time at all. > > http://www.wxpython.org/download.php > > http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/ > > if you decide to give wxPython a go, make sure to download the demo, it > has tons of usefull code samples. What is the minimal memory footprint of a Hello World wxPython app meanwhile (when you cx_freeze/py2exe it) ? Can you debug & call functions interactively from e.g. Pythonwin while a wxPython app is running. ( When I made a test with wxPython some years ago, it had no option to step/share its Messageloop. Interaction was "crust"y and I didn't manage to get smooth debugging (on Windows). ) Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython memory footprint? - Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:52:34 +0100 robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you debug & call functions interactively from e.g. Pythonwin while a > wxPython app is running. It's a snap to incorporate a nice GUI Python shell with object browser into any wxPython app - wxPython provides its PyCrust shell as a package, which provides your choice of a widget you can embed or a top-level window you can create. In one app I worked on I created a menu item that launched such a shell window, so I could poke around inside the app. As far as actual debugging/stepping... I'm not sure. I haven' thad much luck with Python debugging using anything but Wing IDE. - Michael -- mouse, n: a device for pointing at the xterm in which you want to type. -- Fortune -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython memory footprint? - Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
On 3/2/06, robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ianaré wrote: > > > wxPython is another good option, especially since there is > > boa-constructor, which is a great GUI builder, almost makes it too easy > > to make a nice looking app in no time at all. > > > > http://www.wxpython.org/download.php > > > > http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/ > > > > if you decide to give wxPython a go, make sure to download the demo, it > > has tons of usefull code samples. > > What is the minimal memory footprint of a Hello World wxPython app > meanwhile (when you cx_freeze/py2exe it) ? > I'm assuming you mean disk space and not memory usage. A stock wxPython (from a standard release) wil vary from platform to platform but is generally about 2.5 megs. This can be brought down rather a lot if you're willing to spend a fair amount of time learning the wxWidgets and wxPython build systems and making custom builds but it's not generally worth the time to me (and I know the build system and could make customized builds if I wanted to) I have a non-trivial wxPython application and, using py2exe in "single executable" mode (thus all the dlls and the zipfile with the .pyc files are included in the exe) it's just over 5 megs in size. > Can you debug & call functions interactively from e.g. Pythonwin while a > wxPython app is running. > I've never tried it with PythonWin and I don't know how PythonWin hooks into Python to manage debugging). Both pdb and the debugger in PyDev work fine for me, however. As another responder said it's trivial (literally < 5 lines) to add an interactive Python shell to a wxPython application, which is invaluable for debugging and testing. > ( When I made a test with wxPython some years ago, it had no option to > step/share its Messageloop. Interaction was "crust"y and I didn't manage > to get smooth debugging (on Windows). ) > I don't believe that wxPython exposes the low level C++ APIs that're available to hook the wx message loop (it's an efficency issue, from what I understand), but there are a number of other methods for integration. The need to hook the message loop is far far less common than the number of people who ask for it, so you'll forgive me if I'm skeptical unless someone actually says why they want to. > Robert > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython memory footprint? - Re: Write a GUI for a python script?
> What is the minimal memory footprint of a Hello World wxPython app > meanwhile (when you cx_freeze/py2exe it) it's kinda weird actually... I'm not 100% sure, but i think it relates more to py2exe options, not neccessarily to wxPython. in any case the least memory usage i've seen for an app that has at least some degree of functionality is around 12k running on win2000. But a much more complicated and larger app uses about 16k, while another small app uses like 20k... ??? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
