Re: book recommendation for Python newbie?

2008-10-11 Thread nage

I would have a look on Amazon at Python Programming: An Introduction to
Computer Science (Paperback)


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Re: book recommendation for Python newbie?

2008-10-10 Thread Gabriel Rossetti

Joe Strout wrote:
I'm trying to (gently) convince my business partner that we should be 
adding Python to our core toolset.  He's never used it before, apart 
from poking around in the tutorial a bit at my urging.  But he's got a 
birthday coming up, and I'd like to get him a book that will help him 
make the transition more smoothly and enjoyably.


In case it matters: his background is mainly in databases (originally 
4D, more recently MySQL), and his current primary tools are REALbasic 
(which is a statically typed language with semantics similar to Java) 
and PHP.  He's primarily a Mac user, but occasionally has to dabble in 
Linux or Windows.  If we do make this change, he'll be using Python in 
a professional capacity to develop commercial apps.


There are a lot of Python books out there... which one would you 
recommend in this case?


Thanks,
- Joe

I Learned Python using Core Python Programming written by Wesley J. 
Chun, second edition, Prentice Hall, ISBN 0-13-226993-7


I found it to be really good, it starts by introducing the key concepts 
in the early chapters and then goes over each concept more in depth in 
the later chapters. The second part of the book has advances topics, 
like DB, network, RegEx, GUIs, etc. He'll need minimal OOP concepts 
though to grasp the OOP chapters though (classes, single/multiple 
inheritance, etc), but the book does not focus on OOP though. I use 
Python in a professional environment to develop a commercial app. I was 
very quickly able to program in Python with this book.


Gabriel
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Re: book recommendation for Python newbie?

2008-10-10 Thread Abah Joseph
Core Python Programming written by Wesley J. Chun, second edition, Prentice
Hall, ISBN 0-13-226993-7, go for it. I`m only a PHP programmer and this book
have helped me a lot from basic to advance level. though i`m still
reading...



On 10/10/08, slais-www [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike Driscoll wrote:

 A lot of people recommend Lutz's Learning Python. While I haven't
 read it, I have read his follow-up Programming Python and it was


 I found Learning Python good for learning, and a useful reference
 sometimes, but it can seem very slow paced if you already know some other
 language. Another problem is that the author seems unable to drop any
 material that is out of date; the pace is slowed by explanations of what you
 might need to do if using a very old version. The third edition is even
 worse is that respect. Also, being based of the author's training
 experience, is not always a good thing. I prefer a book to sitting in a
 class because I don't want to fall asleep whilst the instructor repeats an
 explanation yet again for the benefit of those at the back, nor wait while
 clever-clogs at the front asks an arcane question of no general interest.
 Learning Python is too much like sitting in a classroom for me.

 If you already know some programming Python in a Nutshell is very useful.


 good. You might also look at Hetland's Beginning Python or even the
 Python for Dummies book.

 Mike

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Re: book recommendation for Python newbie?

2008-10-10 Thread slais-www

Mike Driscoll wrote:

A lot of people recommend Lutz's Learning Python. While I haven't
read it, I have read his follow-up Programming Python and it was


I found Learning Python good for learning, and a useful reference 
sometimes, but it can seem very slow paced if you already know some 
other language. Another problem is that the author seems unable to drop 
any material that is out of date; the pace is slowed by explanations of 
what you might need to do if using a very old version. The third edition 
is even worse is that respect. Also, being based of the author's 
training experience, is not always a good thing. I prefer a book to 
sitting in a class because I don't want to fall asleep whilst the 
instructor repeats an explanation yet again for the benefit of those at 
the back, nor wait while clever-clogs at the front asks an arcane 
question of no general interest. Learning Python is too much like 
sitting in a classroom for me.


If you already know some programming Python in a Nutshell is very useful.



good. You might also look at Hetland's Beginning Python or even the
Python for Dummies book.

Mike

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Re: book recommendation for Python newbie?

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Oct 9, 3:00 pm, Joe Strout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to (gently) convince my business partner that we should be  
 adding Python to our core toolset.  He's never used it before, apart  
 from poking around in the tutorial a bit at my urging.  But he's got a  
 birthday coming up, and I'd like to get him a book that will help him  
 make the transition more smoothly and enjoyably.

 In case it matters: his background is mainly in databases (originally  
 4D, more recently MySQL), and his current primary tools are REALbasic  
 (which is a statically typed language with semantics similar to Java)  
 and PHP.  He's primarily a Mac user, but occasionally has to dabble in  
 Linux or Windows.  If we do make this change, he'll be using Python in  
 a professional capacity to develop commercial apps.

 There are a lot of Python books out there... which one would you  
 recommend in this case?

 Thanks,
 - Joe

A lot of people recommend Lutz's Learning Python. While I haven't
read it, I have read his follow-up Programming Python and it was
good. You might also look at Hetland's Beginning Python or even the
Python for Dummies book.

Mike
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