Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
azrael ju...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. Also completly for python there is not one good GuiBuilder. The only one I have seen that would come near VS was BoaConstructor, But the number of Bugs is just horrific. Too bad that no one is developing it further. What are these horrific bugs - I was forced to use Boa on a project recently, and I did not notice any - In fact, I was impressed because everything that was there, seemed to be working properly. - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
gc_ott...@yahoo.ca writes: ..I come from Delphi, and compared to Delphi, even Visual Studio vanishes ;-) ...I don't even notice the difference between Delphi (which I'm still using) and wxPython. I think this story happened to other people to, so instead of putting a lot of effort in designing and maintaining a GUI builders, it might be better to choose another solution. btw, the idea I used, can be seen here]http://mientki.ruhosting.nl/data_www/pylab_works/pw_gui_support.html and the code can be found herehttp://code.google.com/p/pylab-works/downloads/list cheers, Stef You know, 10 or more years ago both Borland and Microsoft got it right when they incorporated a GUI with an IDE in their Delphi and Visual Basic products. As wonderful as the Python language is, it is very much a work in progress when compared to the ease of use of the aforementioned products. These products revolutionized the industry with their Rapid Applications Development (RAD). Python reminds me of a toolbox filled with a multitude of single use tools when all you need is a Skilsaw and a combination screwdriver. Gord ... So use the combination screwdriver. Python isn't all things to all people. It is what it is. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
azrael jura.gro...@gmail.com writes: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. That's because Visual Studio is a Microsoft product to build interfaces for Microsoft products. wx on the other hand is cross platform and ergo, much more complicated. Do you know if there is any project curently running for GUI builders, maybe for WX, That I could maybe join. You could help wx. Make your own gui builder if you think you could do better. There's also GTK and Qt... and probably many others. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
azrael wrote: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. Also completly for python there is not one good GuiBuilder. The only one I have seen that would come near VS was BoaConstructor, But the number of Bugs is just horrific. Too bad that no one is developing it further. Do you know if there is any project curently running for GUI builders, maybe for WX, That I could maybe join. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Well I come from Delphi, and compared to Delphi, even Visual Studio vanishes ;-) I also tried to start with wxGlad, Boa, XRC ... but they were full of bugs, or even couldn't be started. The best seems to be PyQt, but the license is (still) terrible (and maybe only their stories are much better than the real result ;-). I didn't try XRC, because I found it much too difficult, but instead I wrote a small program, making a much easier version of the XRC-idea. And after a few months, I don't even notice the difference between Delphi (which I'm still using) and wxPython. I think this story happened to other people to, so instead of putting a lot of effort in designing and maintaining a GUI builders, it might be better to choose another solution. btw, the idea I used, can be seen here] http://mientki.ruhosting.nl/data_www/pylab_works/pw_gui_support.html and the code can be found here http://code.google.com/p/pylab-works/downloads/list cheers, Stef -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
On Feb 12, 8:25 pm, J Kenneth King ja...@agentultra.com wrote: azrael jura.gro...@gmail.com writes: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. That's because Visual Studio is a Microsoft product to build interfaces for Microsoft products. wx on the other hand is cross platform and ergo, much more complicated. I think that WX is really great but there is really a great lack of a builder. Do you know if there is any project curently running for GUI builders, maybe for WX, That I could maybe join. You could help wx. Make your own gui builder if you think you could do better. There's also GTK and Qt... and probably many others. I think that this would be a great mistake. Let's sit down and make my own gui builder. I think That some people should sit together and discuss what we need to make a good GUI builder. I am in. Who would like to join me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
azrael wrote: On Feb 12, 8:25 pm, J Kenneth King ja...@agentultra.com wrote: azrael jura.gro...@gmail.com writes: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. That's because Visual Studio is a Microsoft product to build interfaces for Microsoft products. wx on the other hand is cross platform and ergo, much more complicated. I think that WX is really great but there is really a great lack of a builder. This isn't a Python problem - really. Please discuss your issues with the WX Gui builder on a WX list. We can't do anything about it. Christian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
..I come from Delphi, and compared to Delphi, even Visual Studio vanishes ;-) ...I don't even notice the difference between Delphi (which I'm still using) and wxPython. I think this story happened to other people to, so instead of putting a lot of effort in designing and maintaining a GUI builders, it might be better to choose another solution. btw, the idea I used, can be seen here]http://mientki.ruhosting.nl/data_www/pylab_works/pw_gui_support.html and the code can be found herehttp://code.google.com/p/pylab-works/downloads/list cheers, Stef You know, 10 or more years ago both Borland and Microsoft got it right when they incorporated a GUI with an IDE in their Delphi and Visual Basic products. As wonderful as the Python language is, it is very much a work in progress when compared to the ease of use of the aforementioned products. These products revolutionized the industry with their Rapid Applications Development (RAD). Python reminds me of a toolbox filled with a multitude of single use tools when all you need is a Skilsaw and a combination screwdriver. Gord -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
On Feb 12, 9:42 pm, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote: azrael wrote: On Feb 12, 8:25 pm, J Kenneth King ja...@agentultra.com wrote: azrael jura.gro...@gmail.com writes: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. That's because Visual Studio is a Microsoft product to build interfaces for Microsoft products. wx on the other hand is cross platform and ergo, much more complicated. I think that WX is really great but there is really a great lack of a builder. This isn't a Python problem - really. Please discuss your issues with the WX Gui builder on a WX list. We can't do anything about it. Christian How come that it is a problem for the people from WX. It is also a problem of Python. Python people say that that is not their problem. Let wX team make the work. But we, who program in python use also wX. The development of such a tool would make us all a big favour. Well if 99 percent of computer users use GUIs an prefer it in comparison with comand line, Why should it be a pain in the ass to make a application that we could offer to normal common users. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is there a project running (GUI Builder for Python ) ?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:48 AM, azrael jura.gro...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 12, 9:42 pm, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote: azrael wrote: On Feb 12, 8:25 pm, J Kenneth King ja...@agentultra.com wrote: azrael jura.gro...@gmail.com writes: To be honest, in compare to Visual Studio, Gui Builders for wx widgets are really bad. That's because Visual Studio is a Microsoft product to build interfaces for Microsoft products. wx on the other hand is cross platform and ergo, much more complicated. I think that WX is really great but there is really a great lack of a builder. This isn't a Python problem - really. Please discuss your issues with the WX Gui builder on a WX list. We can't do anything about it. Christian How come that it is a problem for the people from WX. It is also a problem of Python. Python people say that that is not their problem. Let wX team make the work. But we, who program in python use also wX. The development of such a tool would make us all a big favour. Well if 99 percent of computer users use GUIs an prefer it in comparison with comand line, Why should it be a pain in the ass to make a application that we could offer to normal common users. Because not all discussion related to python happens on this ML- this has nothing to do with the usefulness of GUI per-se. This is about general questions about python. David -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
