Re: variable hell

2005-08-30 Thread Steve Holden
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> Steve, can I quote you on that?
> 
> "You can lead an idiot to idioms, but you can't make him think!" --
> Steve Holden 2005
> 
Looks like you just did :-). Feel free.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve, can I quote you on that?

"You can lead an idiot to idioms, but you can't make him think!" --
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Re: variable hell

2005-08-30 Thread Steve Holden
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Steve Holden wrote:
> 
> 
>>Yes. A large part of learning a language is discovering the many idioms
>>that have already been established for doing certain things. These are a
>>kind of shorthand, established by long convention, that allow one to
>>avoid the "learning-by-use" curve.
> 
> 
> it's not obvious that the OP has found the pydiomatic way to solve
> his problem, though, given that most of this thread have been spent
> on playing with exec, and that Robert Kern's question from the be-
> ginning of this thread has still not been answered:
> 
> "Again, why unpack them into separate variables when they are *already*
> in the form that you want to use them?"
> 
Fair enough. I was trying to advocate the use of the suggested idioms, 
but some people seem to insist on going their own way even when it leads 
to a collision wiht a bricj wall.

You can lead an idiot to idioms, but you can't make him think ;-)

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-30 Thread Tim N. van der Leeuw
What you could do is to create a class for this; fill it's __dict__
instance; and use custom getattr() / setattr() methods for accessing
a0, a1, a2 etc.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-30 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steve Holden wrote:

> Yes. A large part of learning a language is discovering the many idioms
> that have already been established for doing certain things. These are a
> kind of shorthand, established by long convention, that allow one to
> avoid the "learning-by-use" curve.

it's not obvious that the OP has found the pydiomatic way to solve
his problem, though, given that most of this thread have been spent
on playing with exec, and that Robert Kern's question from the be-
ginning of this thread has still not been answered:

"Again, why unpack them into separate variables when they are *already*
in the form that you want to use them?"

 



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Re: variable hell

2005-08-29 Thread Adriaan Renting
Oops, you're completely right.

I'm sorry, it is indeed my mistake.
I was thinking people were telling me I was quoting Martin wrong, while I was 
quoting Rafi wrong. I'll promise not quote anybody anymore until I have an 
e-mail program that can quote/copy properly. As reading it in one window, then 
typing it in another to test it, then copying it back, obviously introduced a 
PEBKAC error.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-29 Thread Robert Kern
Adriaan Renting wrote:

> My original code was: exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
> Then Rafi said: exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")
> To which I responded that his example does not work in my Python, and I think 
> it's invalid.
> Then Martin came with: exec 'a%s = %s' % (count, value)
> This does work.
> But he seems to keep telling me I'm quoting him wrong, while I'm quoting Rafi.

Read more carefully. rafi did not put in the extraneous quotes.

rafi:
>>Adriaan Renting wrote: 
>>
>>>You might be able to do something along the lines of 
>>>
>>>for count in range(0,maxcount): 
>>>value = values[count] 
>>>exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")) 
>>
>>why using the eval? 
>> 
>>exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value)) 
>> 
>>should be fine 
>> 
>>-- 
>>rafi 

See? No extra quotes.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-29 Thread Adriaan Renting
I'm sorry for top-posting and not marking quoted text, but my e-mail reader 
(Novell Groupwise 6 for Linux) does not mark quoted text. The only thing it 
does is the >>> $NAME <$EMAIL> $DATE >>> above the quoted text. Therefore I add 
my comments at the top. The only alternative I have is copying all text to an 
editor, adding quote marks by hand, then copying it back into a new e-mail 
message, but this takes to much of m time. If this is to confusing I will just 
stop posting in this list.

My original code was: exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
Then Rafi said: exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")
To which I responded that his example does not work in my Python, and I think 
it's invalid.
Then Martin came with: exec 'a%s = %s' % (count, value)
This does work.
But he seems to keep telling me I'm quoting him wrong, while I'm quoting Rafi.

Furthermore I'm going with your suggestion of checking the imp, globals() and 
locals().

Adriaan Renting. 
 
>>>Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/27/05 2:24 am >>> 
[The context is totally hosed by top posting and failure to mark 
quoted text. I gave up on recovering it.] 
 
"Adriaan Renting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 
 
>Not in my Python. 
> 
for count in range(0, 10): 
>... value = count 
>... exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)") 
 
You left in the extra set of quotes. Try this: 
 
>>>for count in range(10): 
...  value = count 
...  exec 'a%s = %s' % (count, value) 
... 
>>>dir() 
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2', 'a3', 
'a4', 'a5', 'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count', 'help', 'readline', 'rlcompleter', 
'sys', 'value'] 
 
I also removed the extraneous parens that you and Rafi both used - 
exec is a statement, not a function. 
 
Of course, your two examples are better done using imp and globals() or 
locals(). 
 
 >>>dir() 
>['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'count', 'value'] 
for count in range(0, 10): 
>... value = count 
>... exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")) 
>... 
dir() 
>['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2', 'a3', 'a4', 'a5', 
>'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count', 'value'] 
 
> 
>I myself use code like this to load user defined classes. 
>exec(eval("'from %s import %s' % (script, script)")) 
>exec(eval("'self.user_class = %s()' % script")) 
>self.user_class.run() 
> 
>But this can probably be done with the imp module too. 
>  
rafi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/25/05 6:03 pm >>> 
>Adriaan Renting wrote: 
>>You might be able to do something along the lines of 
>> 
>>for count in range(0,maxcount): 
>> value = values[count] 
>> exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")) 
>  
>why using the eval? 
>  
>exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value)) 
>  
>should be fine 
>  
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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Meyer
[The context is totally hosed by top posting and failure to mark
quoted text. I gave up on recovering it.]

"Adriaan Renting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Not in my Python.
>
 for count in range(0, 10):
> ... value = count
> ... exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")

You left in the extra set of quotes. Try this:

>>> for count in range(10):
...  value = count
...  exec 'a%s = %s' % (count, value)
... 
>>> dir()
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2', 'a3', 
'a4', 'a5', 'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count', 'help', 'readline', 'rlcompleter', 
'sys', 'value']

I also removed the extraneous parens that you and Rafi both used -
exec is a statement, not a function.

Of course, your two examples are better done using imp and globals() or
locals(). 

  >>> dir()
> ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'count', 'value']
 for count in range(0, 10):
> ... value = count
> ... exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
> ... 
 dir()
> ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2', 'a3', 'a4', 'a5', 
> 'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count', 'value']
 
>
> I myself use code like this to load user defined classes.
> exec(eval("'from %s import %s' % (script, script)"))
> exec(eval("'self.user_class = %s()' % script"))
> self.user_class.run()
>
> But this can probably be done with the imp module too.
>  
rafi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/25/05 6:03 pm >>> 
> Adriaan Renting wrote: 
>>You might be able to do something along the lines of 
>> 
>>for count in range(0,maxcount): 
>>  value = values[count] 
>>  exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")) 
>  
> why using the eval? 
>  
> exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value)) 
>  
> should be fine 
>  
> -- 
> rafi 
>  
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>(Albert Einstein) 
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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread Steve Holden
Nx wrote:
> Thanks for all the responses and animated discussion,
> which is still the best way to learn something new.
> 
> Most of the time it is not that you want to do something
> in a certain way , it rather is one cannot think of a
> better , faster more efficient way .
> 
> Nx

Yes. A large part of learning a language is discovering the many idioms 
that have already been established for doing certain things. These are a 
kind of shorthand, established by long convention, that allow one to 
avoid the "learning-by-use" curve. When I first came to Python that was 
a very rewarding aspect of this newsgroup.

To this day it remains one of the friendliest tech-spots in cyberspace.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Kern
Adriaan Renting wrote:
> Not in my Python.
> 
> 
for count in range(0, 10):
> 
> ... value = count
> ... exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")

But that's not what rafi suggested.

rafi:
> why using the eval?
>
> exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value))

See the difference?

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread Peter Maas
Benji York schrieb:
>>  >>> suffix = 'var'
>>  >>> vars()['a%s' % suffix] = 45
>>  >>> avar
>> 45
> 
> 
> Quoting from http://docs.python.org/lib/built-in-funcs.html#l2h-76 about 
> the "vars" built in:
> 
> The returned dictionary should not be modified: the effects on the 
> corresponding symbol table are undefined.

I tried this once and it worked. This may be too naive, so thanks
for the warning :)

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Adriaan Renting wrote:
> Not in my Python.
> 
> 
for count in range(0, 10):
> 
> ... value = count
> ... exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")
> ... 
> 
dir()
> 
> ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'count', 'value']

You did not copy the suggestion properly:

>>> for count in range(0, 10):
...   exec 'a%s = %s' % (count,count)
...
>>> dir()
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2',
'a3', 'a4', 'a5', 'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count']
>>> a5
5

(you can put additional parentheses around the string, but not
additional quotation marks)

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread Adriaan Renting
I was responding to rafi's suggestion, I had not received the "exec 'a%s = %s' 
% (count,count)" response yet at that time. The "exec 'a%s = %s' % 
(count,value)" works fine.

>Not in my Python.
>
>---snip---
>
>why using the eval? 
> 
>exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value)) 
> 
>should be fine 
> 
>-- 
>rafi 

--- I appologize for any top-posting, and improper inlining, I'm using 
groupwise ---
 
>>>"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/26/05 10:19 am >>> 
Adriaan Renting wrote: 
>Not in my Python. 
> 
> 
for count in range(0, 10): 
> 
>... value = count 
>... exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)") 
>... 
> 
dir() 
> 
>['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'count', 'value'] 
 
You did not copy the suggestion properly: 
 
>>>for count in range(0, 10): 
...   exec 'a%s = %s' % (count,count) 
... 
>>>dir() 
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2', 
'a3', 'a4', 'a5', 'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count'] 
>>>a5 
5 
 
(you can put additional parentheses around the string, but not 
additional quotation marks) 
 
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Re: variable hell

2005-08-26 Thread rafi
Ron Garret wrote:

>>Because eval() takes an expression as an argument, and assignment is a 
>>statement.
>  
> And if you find this distinction annoying, try Lisp.

that's were I come from :-)

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Adriaan Renting
Not in my Python.

>>> for count in range(0, 10):
... value = count
... exec("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")
... 
>>> dir()
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'count', 'value']
>>> for count in range(0, 10):
... value = count
... exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
... 
>>> dir()
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'a0', 'a1', 'a2', 'a3', 'a4', 'a5', 
'a6', 'a7', 'a8', 'a9', 'count', 'value']
>>> 

I myself use code like this to load user defined classes.
exec(eval("'from %s import %s' % (script, script)"))
exec(eval("'self.user_class = %s()' % script"))
self.user_class.run()

But this can probably be done with the imp module too.
 
>>>rafi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/25/05 6:03 pm >>> 
Adriaan Renting wrote: 
>You might be able to do something along the lines of 
> 
>for count in range(0,maxcount): 
>  value = values[count] 
>  exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)")) 
 
why using the eval? 
 
exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value)) 
 
should be fine 
 
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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Nx
Thanks for all the responses and animated discussion,
which is still the best way to learn something new.

Most of the time it is not that you want to do something
in a certain way , it rather is one cannot think of a
better , faster more efficient way .

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Ron Garret
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> rafi wrote:
> > Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
> > 
> > 
>  exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
> >>>
> >>>why using the eval?
> >>>
> >>>exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value))
> >>>
> >>>should be fine
> >>
> >>And this demonstrates why exec as a statement was a mistake ;)
> >>
> >>It actually is
> >>
> >>exec 'a%s=%s' % (count, value)
> > 
> > 
> > Noted.
> > 
> > In the meantime another question I cannot find an answer to: any idea 
> > why does eval() consider '=' as a syntax error?
> > 
> >  >>> eval ('a=1')
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "", line 1, in ?
> >File "", line 1
> >  a=1
> >   ^
> > SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> Because eval() takes an expression as an argument, and assignment is a 
> statement.

And if you find this distinction annoying, try Lisp.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread rafi
Steve Holden wrote:

> Because eval() takes an expression as an argument, and assignment is a 
> statement.

I am definitely not a language lawyer... but I should a little bit more

thanks,

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Steve Holden
rafi wrote:
> Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
> 
> 
 exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
>>>
>>>why using the eval?
>>>
>>>exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value))
>>>
>>>should be fine
>>
>>And this demonstrates why exec as a statement was a mistake ;)
>>
>>It actually is
>>
>>exec 'a%s=%s' % (count, value)
> 
> 
> Noted.
> 
> In the meantime another question I cannot find an answer to: any idea 
> why does eval() consider '=' as a syntax error?
> 
>  >>> eval ('a=1')
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "", line 1, in ?
>File "", line 1
>  a=1
>   ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> 
> Thanks
> 
Because eval() takes an expression as an argument, and assignment is a 
statement.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Kern
rafi wrote:

> In the meantime another question I cannot find an answer to: any idea 
> why does eval() consider '=' as a syntax error?
> 
>  >>> eval ('a=1')
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "", line 1, in ?
>File "", line 1
>  a=1
>   ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax

eval *evaluates* an expression. "a=1" is a statement. It has no value.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Kern
Ron Garret wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> In the
>>bowels of my modules, I may not know what the contents are at code-time,
> 
> Then how do you write your code?

With style.  ;-)

I use a Bunch where I might otherwise use a dictionary inside my modules
because it *is* a dictionary. Interactively, I'll usually use it as an
object with attributes. The keys are usually ideosyncratic, like station
codes for permanent GPS stations (e.g. "CAND", "USLO", "MNMC", "MIDA"),
rather than generic (e.g. "northing", "day").

So I might have a function that do some analysis on all of the GPS
stations within a Bunch. I don't know the names of the stations when I'm
writing the function, but I can iterate over the keys and values in the
Bunch.

  def subtract_reference(data, refstation):
"""Subtract the motion of the reference station from the remaining
timeseries.
"""
refdata = data[refstation]
for station in data:
  if station == refstation:
continue
  data[station].northing -= refdata.northing
  data[station].easting -= refdata.easting
  # ...

At the prompt, though, I may want to plot CAND's timeseries.

  In [10]: plot(data.CAND.t, data.CAND.northing)

Bunch allows me to use "data[station]" and "data.CAND" as the situation
demands rather than forcing me to use the clunkier "getattr(data,
station)" or "data['CAND']", respectively.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread rafi
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:

>>>  exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
>>
>>why using the eval?
>>
>>exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value))
>>
>>should be fine
> 
> And this demonstrates why exec as a statement was a mistake ;)
> 
> It actually is
> 
> exec 'a%s=%s' % (count, value)

Noted.

In the meantime another question I cannot find an answer to: any idea 
why does eval() consider '=' as a syntax error?

 >>> eval ('a=1')
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "", line 1, in ?
   File "", line 1
 a=1
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Thanks

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Reinhold Birkenfeld
rafi wrote:
> Adriaan Renting wrote:
>> You might be able to do something along the lines of
>> 
>> for count in range(0,maxcount):
>>   value = values[count]
>>   exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
> 
> why using the eval?
> 
> exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value))
> 
> should be fine

And this demonstrates why exec as a statement was a mistake ;)

It actually is

exec 'a%s=%s' % (count, value)

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Ron Garret
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  In the
> bowels of my modules, I may not know what the contents are at code-time,

Then how do you write your code?

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread bruno modulix
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> Hey, if the man wants to write it that way, let the man write it that
> way. If it works for him, great... he's sure confused the heck out of
> all of us, and that translates into job security for him! As you can
> see, the name of the post is 'variable hell' and that is exactly what
> he is creating, so "Adriaan Renting", excellent response!
> 

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Steve Holden
Carsten Haese wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 11:04, I hastily wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 10:43, Nx wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the many replies
>>>
>>> here is an example for what it will be used for , in this case
>>> fixed at 31 fieldvalues:
>>>
>>> inputvalues=(s0,s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6,s7,s8,s9,s10,s11,s12,s13,s14,s15,s16,s17,s18,s19,s20,s21,s22,s23,s24,s25,
>>>s26,s27,s28,s29,s30,s31)
>>
>>inputvalues = tuple(mylist)
> 
> 
> And actually, you probably don't have to do that, because the execute
> method should be able to handle a list just as well as a tuple.
> 
That depends on the database module. Some will insist in tuples, IIRC.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Kern
Nx wrote:
>>"""
>>
>>Why unpack inputvalues if your next step is to pack'em back again ? Or
>>what did I miss ?
> 
> The original values in this case are being read from a text file
> with one value including a linefeed per line and the original idea was,
> that having them read into a list was the best way to massage them into the
> form required to be used as input values for the insert statement. 

Again, why unpack them into separate variables when they are *already*
in the form that you want to use them?

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Kern
Ron Garret wrote:

> If you really want to make something like this work you can define a 
> class that would work like this:
> 
> vars = funkyclass()
> varname = 'x'
> vars[varname] = value
> vars.x
> 
> But this is clearly a design mistake.  Either you know the names of the 
> variables when you write the code or you do not.  If you know them you 
> can simply assign them directly.  If you do not know them then you can't 
> put them in the code to read their values anyway, and what you need is 
> just a regular dictionary.

In fact, I do this all of the time.

  class Bunch(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kwds):
  dict.__init__(self, *args, **kwds)
  self.__dict__ = self

It's a lifesaver when you're working at the interactive prompt. In the
bowels of my modules, I may not know what the contents are at code-time,
but at the prompt I probably do. Bunch assists both usages.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Ron Garret
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Benji York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Peter Maas wrote:
> >  >>> suffix = 'var'
> >  >>> vars()['a%s' % suffix] = 45
> >  >>> avar
> > 45
> 
> Quoting from http://docs.python.org/lib/built-in-funcs.html#l2h-76 about 
> the "vars" built in:
> 
> The returned dictionary should not be modified: the effects on the 
> corresponding symbol table are undefined.

If you really want to make something like this work you can define a 
class that would work like this:

vars = funkyclass()
varname = 'x'
vars[varname] = value
vars.x

But this is clearly a design mistake.  Either you know the names of the 
variables when you write the code or you do not.  If you know them you 
can simply assign them directly.  If you do not know them then you can't 
put them in the code to read their values anyway, and what you need is 
just a regular dictionary.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread rafi
Adriaan Renting wrote:
> You might be able to do something along the lines of
> 
> for count in range(0,maxcount):
>   value = values[count]
>   exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))

why using the eval?

exec ('a%s=%s' % (count, value))

should be fine

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey, if the man wants to write it that way, let the man write it that
way. If it works for him, great... he's sure confused the heck out of
all of us, and that translates into job security for him! As you can
see, the name of the post is 'variable hell' and that is exactly what
he is creating, so "Adriaan Renting", excellent response!

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Nx

> """
> 
> Why unpack inputvalues if your next step is to pack'em back again ? Or
> what did I miss ?
> 
The original values in this case are being read from a text file
with one value including a linefeed per line and the original idea was,
that having them read into a list was the best way to massage them into the
form required to be used as input values for the insert statement. 



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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Carsten Haese
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 11:04, I hastily wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 10:43, Nx wrote:
> > Thanks for the many replies
> > 
> >  here is an example for what it will be used for , in this case
> >  fixed at 31 fieldvalues:
> > 
> >  
> > inputvalues=(s0,s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6,s7,s8,s9,s10,s11,s12,s13,s14,s15,s16,s17,s18,s19,s20,s21,s22,s23,s24,s25,
> > s26,s27,s28,s29,s30,s31)
> 
> inputvalues = tuple(mylist)

And actually, you probably don't have to do that, because the execute
method should be able to handle a list just as well as a tuple.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Adriaan Renting
You might be able to do something along the lines of

for count in range(0,maxcount):
  value = values[count]
  exec(eval("'a%s=%s' % (count, value)"))
 
But I am also wonder: why? 

Peter Maas wrote: 
> >>>suffix = 'var' 
> >>>vars()['a%s' % suffix] = 45 
> >>>avar 
>45 
 

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Carsten Haese
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 10:43, Nx wrote:
> Thanks for the many replies
> 
>  here is an example for what it will be used for , in this case
>  fixed at 31 fieldvalues:
> 
>  
> inputvalues=(s0,s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6,s7,s8,s9,s10,s11,s12,s13,s14,s15,s16,s17,s18,s19,s20,s21,s22,s23,s24,s25,
> s26,s27,s28,s29,s30,s31)

inputvalues = tuple(mylist)

Hope this helps,

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread bruno modulix
Nx wrote:
> Thanks for the many replies
> 
>  here is an example for what it will be used for , in this case
>  fixed at 31 fieldvalues:
> 
>  
> inputvalues=(s0,s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6,s7,s8,s9,s10,s11,s12,s13,s14,s15,s16,s17,s18,s19,s20,s21,s22,s23,s24,s25,
> s26,s27,s28,s29,s30,s31)
>MYINSERTSELECT = "INSERT INTO
> ADDRESS(ALIAS,COMPANY,ADDRESSLI1,ADDRESSLI2,ADDRESSCO,TOWN,ZIP,COUNTRY,TEL1,TEL2,FAX,EMAIL,INTERNET,PERSON1,TITLE1,RES1,PERSON2,TITLE2,RES2,PERSON3,TITLE3,RES3,PERSON4,TITLE4,RES4,PERSON5,TITLE5,RES5,PRODALIAS,PAGER,TLX,ADDMEMO)
>VALUES(?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)"
>
>con1.commit() 
>cur = con1.cursor()
>try :
> cur.execute(MYINSERTSELECT,inputvalues)

If I refer to your original post, there's someting I dont understand:
"""
I am unpacking a list into variables, for some reason they need to be
 unpacked into variable names like a0,a1,a2upto aN whatever is
 in the list.
"""

Why unpack inputvalues if your next step is to pack'em back again ? Or
what did I miss ?


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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Nx
Thanks for the many replies

 here is an example for what it will be used for , in this case
 fixed at 31 fieldvalues:

 
inputvalues=(s0,s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6,s7,s8,s9,s10,s11,s12,s13,s14,s15,s16,s17,s18,s19,s20,s21,s22,s23,s24,s25,
s26,s27,s28,s29,s30,s31)
   MYINSERTSELECT = "INSERT INTO
ADDRESS(ALIAS,COMPANY,ADDRESSLI1,ADDRESSLI2,ADDRESSCO,TOWN,ZIP,COUNTRY,TEL1,TEL2,FAX,EMAIL,INTERNET,PERSON1,TITLE1,RES1,PERSON2,TITLE2,RES2,PERSON3,TITLE3,RES3,PERSON4,TITLE4,RES4,PERSON5,TITLE5,RES5,PRODALIAS,PAGER,TLX,ADDMEMO)
   VALUES(?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)"
   
   con1.commit() 
   cur = con1.cursor()
   try :
cur.execute(MYINSERTSELECT,inputvalues)
con1.commit()
print 'Inserted 1 record'
   except IOError, (errno, strerror):
 print "I/O error(%s): %s" % (errno, strerror)
   except ValueError:
 print "Could not convert data to an integer."
   except:
print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]
raise


I am sure there is an easier way, but I have not found it yet.

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Benji York
Peter Maas wrote:
>  >>> suffix = 'var'
>  >>> vars()['a%s' % suffix] = 45
>  >>> avar
> 45

Quoting from http://docs.python.org/lib/built-in-funcs.html#l2h-76 about 
the "vars" built in:

The returned dictionary should not be modified: the effects on the 
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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Peter Maas
Nx schrieb:
> Hi
> 
>  I am unpacking a list into variables, for some reason they need to be
>  unpacked into variable names like a0,a1,a2upto aN whatever is 
>  in the list.
> 
>  How to create the variables dynamically ?
> 
>  I am looking for something like 
>  pseudo code line follows :
> 
>  a%s = str(value)

 >>> suffix = 'var'
 >>> vars()['a%s' % suffix] = 45
 >>> avar
45

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Nx enlightened us with:
> I am unpacking a list into variables, for some reason they need to
> be unpacked into variable names like a0,a1,a2upto aN whatever is
> in the list.

You're probably doing things the wrong way. What is your ultimate goal
with this? There is probably a better way of doing it.

In the mean time, look at eval().

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Nx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am unpacking a list into variables, for some reason they need to be
> unpacked into variable names like a0,a1,a2upto aN whatever is
> in the list.

why?

 



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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Kern
Nx wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  I am unpacking a list into variables, for some reason they need to be
>  unpacked into variable names like a0,a1,a2upto aN whatever is 
>  in the list.

Really? Why?

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Re: variable hell

2005-08-25 Thread Diez B. Roggisch

Nx wrote:
>  I am unpacking a list into variables, for some reason they need to be
>  unpacked into variable names like a0,a1,a2upto aN whatever is
>  in the list.

Explain this "some reason". This smells, and the way to go would be to
use a dict mapping a_n to whatever is in the list - not creating
variables. How do you want to access generated variables anyway -
especially when you don't have the faintest idea how many of them there
are? Obviously there can't be code written based on that.

Regards,

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