Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]
Sybren Stuvel wrote: It runs now, but some things aren't working. Besides the crashing down, what else? I am very curious. When I open a file and click on the browse tab, I see the current directory. If I then double-click on a Python file, I'd expect SPE to open it, but nothing happens. Hmmm... and now SPE has crashed. No errors on the terminal, but the GUI simply doesn't repaint anymore. Sorry mate, it looks like a promising project, but it just doesn't do it for me. Way too much hassle for something that crashes on the first try. What does crash on the second try? Any bug that makes SPE crash won't survive long if reported. So, thanks for the bug report! I fixed it and the fix is in subversion. If there is anything else you want to have fixed for next release, just drop a line. But well.., sorry for all the too much hassle, Stani -- http://pythonide.stani.be -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]
SPE - Stani's Python Editor enlightened us with: This is a misinterpretation, SPE failed because of something else. (As would have become clear if you would have run SPE in the debugging mode 'python SPE.py --debug'.) IMO displayed messages should be clear without having to resort to a debugging mode. Debugging mode should only be for removing bugs, not for enlightenment of the user. Anyway, apt-getting spe now... which doesn't work: Unpacking python-wxversion (from .../python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2 _all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py', which is also in package wxpython2.5.3 If it's so hard to get the requirements installed, I'd rather stick to Vim. I adapted SPE such that it can ran out of the box of an archive (zip or tar.gz). This has the advantage that Linux (but also Mac and Windows) don't have to install SPE anymore but can just run it out of a folder or USB stick, provided the right version of wxPython (2.6) is installed on the system as it is always the case with Ubuntu boxes. Ehm... I think I've clearly shown that, at least as far as the Ubuntu packages go, not all requirements are always there on an Ubuntu system. If it doesn't work, let me know privately. Why? What's wrong with this newsgroup? Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]
Sybren Stuvel wrote: IMO displayed messages should be clear without having to resort to a debugging mode. I can agree on that. Debugging mode should only be for removing bugs, not for enlightenment of the user. Unless he doesn't follow the installation instructions. Anyway, apt-getting spe now... which doesn't work: Unpacking python-wxversion (from .../python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2 _all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py', which is also in package wxpython2.5.3 If it's so hard to get the requirements installed, I'd rather stick to Vim. It is so hard to contact the person who packages SPE for Ubuntu. I contacted him but I get no answer. I am new to Ubuntu (or Linux in general), so I would not have a clue how that works (apart from time needed for it). If you would have read the blog (http://pythonide.stani.be/blog), you could clearly read this: SPE was for the first time tested on and improved for Ubuntu (and hopefully so for Linux in general). I adapted SPE such that it can ran out of the box of an archive (zip or tar.gz) (...) If you want to install SPE in this way, use the -no_setup.zip distribution: 1. uninstall previous version of SPE (VERY IMPORTANT, otherwise SPE won't run) 2. download and unpack the archive SPE-0.8.1.d-wx2.6.1.0-no_setup.zip 3. run SPE with 'python SPE.py' If you follow these three steps nothing more, nothing less, you are up and running with SPE in one minute. I don't know how can I make it more easy. Luckily other Ubuntu users had no problems and are running the latest SPE already on Ubuntu. I adapted SPE such that it can ran out of the box of an archive (zip or tar.gz). This has the advantage that Linux (but also Mac and Windows) don't have to install SPE anymore but can just run it out of a folder or USB stick, provided the right version of wxPython (2.6) is installed on the system as it is always the case with Ubuntu boxes. Ehm... I think I've clearly shown that, at least as far as the Ubuntu packages go, not all requirements are always there on an Ubuntu system. Supposing you use Ubuntu 5.10 The Breezy Badger, all the requirements are there: wxPython 2.6 That is all SPE needs. (If you still use Hoary, read here http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/wxPython_20with_20Ubuntu) So you have only clearly shown that you didn't read the instructions. I wish SPE can be retrieved by apt-get but that's beyond my control. If it doesn't work, let me know privately. Why? What's wrong with this newsgroup? Nothing, just thought it might be off topic, SPE has forums or newsgroups for that. So follow this recipee: - apt-get wxPython 2.6 (in case you don't have) - uninstall your previous SPE attempts (no '_spe' or 'sm' folder may be present in site-packages) - get http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.1.d-wx2.6.1.0-no_setup.zip and unpack it - run SPE (python SPE.py) Still not working? Stani -- http://pythonide.stani.be http://pythonide.stani.be/screenshots http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]
SPE - Stani's Python Editor enlightened us with: If you would have read the blog (http://pythonide.stani.be/blog), you could clearly read this: I haven't. 2. download and unpack the archive SPE-0.8.1.d-wx2.6.1.0-no_setup.zip If you follow these three steps nothing more, nothing less, you are up and running with SPE in one minute. I don't know how can I make it more easy. You could start by adding the zip file to the download page. Even the blog entry you mention doesn't contain the URL to that file. Supposing you use Ubuntu 5.10 The Breezy Badger, all the requirements are there: wxPython 2.6 That is all SPE needs. Well, in that case the SPE package that's contained in the Universe respository is broken. Besides, it was wxPython 2.5.3 that was insalled on my Breezy box, after I upgraded from Hoary, and not 2.6. So you have only clearly shown that you didn't read the instructions. I wish SPE can be retrieved by apt-get but that's beyond my control. No it isn't. All you need to do is publish proper packages, and set up a Debian repository. Then all people need is to add one line to their sources.list, and they can use apt-get. - apt-get wxPython 2.6 (in case you don't have) That would be apt-get install python-wxgtk2.6. wxpython2.6 is mentioned, but python-wxgtk2.6 is actually installable. At least, it would be if it didn't conflict with the version of wxPython I have currently installed. I had to uninstall 2.5.3 first, because a simple upgrade didn't work. - get http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.1.d-wx2.6.1.0-no_setup.zip and unpack it Finally, an URL. Still not working? It runs now, but some things aren't working. When I open a file and click on the browse tab, I see the current directory. If I then double-click on a Python file, I'd expect SPE to open it, but nothing happens. Hmmm... and now SPE has crashed. No errors on the terminal, but the GUI simply doesn't repaint anymore. Sorry mate, it looks like a promising project, but it just doesn't do it for me. Way too much hassle for something that crashes on the first try. Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
