Some notes on a high-performance Python application.

2008-03-26 Thread John Nagle
   I run SiteTruth (sitetruth.com), which rates web sites for
legitimacy, based on what information it can find out about
the business behind the web site.  I'm going to describe here
how the machinery behind this is organized, because I had to
solve some problems in Python that I haven't seen solved before.

The site is intended mainly to support AJAX applications which
query the site for every ad they see.  You can download the AdRater
client (http://www.sitetruth.com/downloads/adrater.html;) and use
the site, if you like.  It's an extension for Firefox, written in
Javascript.  For every web page you visit, it looks for URLs that
link to ad sites, and queries the server for a rating, then puts
up icons on top of each ad indicating the rating of the advertiser.

The client makes the query by sending a URL to an .fcgi program
in Python, and gets XML back.  So that's the interface.

At the server end, there's an Linux/Apache/mod_fcgi/Python server.
Requests come in via FCGI, and are assigned to an FCGI server process
by Apache.  The initial processing is straightforward; there's a
MySQL database and a table of domains and ratings.  If the site is
known, a rating is returned immediately.  This is all standard FCGI.

If the domain hasn't been rated yet, things get interesting.
The server returns an XML reply with a status code that tells the
client to display a busy icon and retry in five seconds.  Then
the process of rating a site has to be started.  This takes more
resources and needs from 15 seconds to a minute, as pages from
the site are read and processed.

So we don't want to do rating inside the FCGI processes.
We want FCGI processing to remain fast even during periods of heavy
rating load.  And we may need to spread the processing over multiple
computers.

So the FCGI program puts a rating request into the database,
in a MySQL table of type ENGINE=MEMORY.  This is just an in-memory
table, something that MySQL supports but isn't used much.  Each
rating server has a rating scheduler process, which repeatedly
reads from that table, looking for work to do.  When it finds work,
it marks the task as in process.

The rating scheduler launches multiple subprocesses to do ratings,
all of which run at a lower priority than the rest of the system.
The rating scheduler communicates with its subprocesses via pipes
and Pickle.  Launching a new subprocess for each rating is too slow;
it adds several seconds as CPython loads code and starts up.  So
the subprocesses are reusable, like FCGI tasks.  Every 100 uses or
so, we terminate each subprocess and start another one, in case of
memory leaks.  (There seems to be a leak we can't find in M2Crypto.
Guido couldn't find it either when he used M2Crypto, as he wrote in
his blog.)

Each rating process only rates one site at a time, but is multithreaded
so it can read multiple pages from the site, and other remote data
sources like BBBonline, at one time.  This allows us to get a rating
within 15 seconds or so.  When the site is rated, the database is
updated, and the next request back at the FCGI program level will
return the rating.  We won't have to look at that domain for another month.

The system components can run on multiple machines.  One can add
rating capacity by adding another rating server and pointing it at the same
database.  FCGI capacity can be added by adding more FCGI servers and a
load balancer.  Adding database capacity is harder, because that
means going to MySQL replication, which creates coordination problems
we haven't dealt with yet.  Also, since multiple processes are running
on each CPU, multicore CPUs help.

Using MySQL as a queueing engine across multiple servers is unusual,
but it works well.  It has the nice feature that the queue ordering
can be anything you can write in a SELECT statement. So we put fair
queueing in the rating scheduler; multiple requests from the same IP
address compete with each other, not with those from other IP addresses.
So no one site can use up all the rating capacity.

Another useful property of using MySQL for coordination is that
we can have internal web pages that make queries and display the
system and queue status.  This is easy to do from the outside when
the queues are in MySQL.  It's tough to do that when they're inside
some process.  We log errors in a database table, not text files,
for the same reason.  In addition to specific problem logging,
all programs have a final try block around the whole program that
does a stack backtrace and puts that in a log entry in MySQL.
All servers log to the same database.

Looking at this architecture, it was put together from off the shelf
parts, but not the parts that have big fan bases.  FCGI isn't used much.
The MySQL memory engine isn't used much.  MySQL advisory locking
(SELECT GET LOCK(lockname,timeout)) isn't used much.  Pickle
isn't used much over pipes.  M2Crypto isn't used much.  We've
spent much time finding 

Re: Some notes on a high-performance Python application.

2008-03-26 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 17:33:43 schrieb John Nagle:
 ...

 Using MySQL as a queueing engine across multiple servers is unusual,
 but it works well.  It has the nice feature that the queue ordering
 can be anything you can write in a SELECT statement. So we put fair
 queueing in the rating scheduler; multiple requests from the same IP
 address compete with each other, not with those from other IP addresses.
 So no one site can use up all the rating capacity.

 ...

 Does anyone else architect their systems like this?

A Xen(tm) management system I've written at least shares this aspect in that 
the RPC subsystem for communication between the frontend and the backends is 
basically a (MySQL) database table which is regularily queried by all 
backends that work on VHosts to change the state (in the form of a command) 
according to what the user specifies in the (Web-)UI.

FWIW, the system is based on SQLObject and CherryPy, doing most of the 
parallel tasks threaded from a main process (because the largest part of the 
backends is dealing with I/O from subprocesses [waiting for them to 
complete]), which is different from what you do. CherryPy is also deployed 
with the threading server.

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Re: Some notes on a high-performance Python application.

2008-03-26 Thread Michael Ströder
Heiko Wundram wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 17:33:43 schrieb John Nagle:
 ...

 Using MySQL as a queueing engine across multiple servers is unusual,
 but it works well.  It has the nice feature that the queue ordering
 can be anything you can write in a SELECT statement. So we put fair
 queueing in the rating scheduler; multiple requests from the same IP
 address compete with each other, not with those from other IP addresses.
 So no one site can use up all the rating capacity.
 ...
 Does anyone else architect their systems like this?
 
 A Xen(tm) management system I've written at least shares this aspect in that 
 the RPC subsystem for communication between the frontend and the backends is 
 basically a (MySQL) database table which is regularily queried by all 
 backends that work on VHosts to change the state (in the form of a command) 
 according to what the user specifies in the (Web-)UI.

I see nothing unusual with this:

I vaguely remember that this database approach was teached at my former 
university as a basic mechanism for distributed systems at least since 1992, 
but I'd guess much longer...

And in one of my projects a RDBMS-based queue was used for a PKI 
registration server (e.g. for handling the outbound CMP queue).

IIRC Microsoft's Biztalk Server also stores inbound and outbound queues in 
its internal MS-SQL database (which then can be the bottleneck).

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Re: Some notes on a high-performance Python application.

2008-03-26 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 18:54:29 schrieb Michael Ströder:
 Heiko Wundram wrote:
  Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 17:33:43 schrieb John Nagle:
  ...
 
  Using MySQL as a queueing engine across multiple servers is unusual,
  but it works well.  It has the nice feature that the queue ordering
  can be anything you can write in a SELECT statement. So we put fair
  queueing in the rating scheduler; multiple requests from the same IP
  address compete with each other, not with those from other IP addresses.
  So no one site can use up all the rating capacity.
  ...
  Does anyone else architect their systems like this?
 
  A Xen(tm) management system I've written at least shares this aspect in
  that the RPC subsystem for communication between the frontend and the
  backends is basically a (MySQL) database table which is regularily
  queried by all backends that work on VHosts to change the state (in the
  form of a command) according to what the user specifies in the (Web-)UI.

 I vaguely remember that this database approach was teached at my former
 university as a basic mechanism for distributed systems at least since
 1992, but I'd guess much longer...

I didn't say it was unusual or frowned upon (and I was also taught this at uni 
IIRC as a means to easily distribute systems which don't have specific 
requirements for response time to RPC requests), but anyway, as you noted for 
Biztalk, it's much easier to hit bottlenecks with a polling-style RPC than 
with a true RPC system, as I've come to experience when the number of nodes 
(i.e., backends) grew over the last year and a half.

That's what's basically causing a re-consideration to move from DB-style RPC 
to socket-based RPC, which is going to happen at some point in time for the 
system noted above (but I've sinced changed jobs and am now only a consulting 
developer for that anyway, so it won't be my job to do the dirty migration 
and the redesign ;-)).

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Re: Some notes on a high-performance Python application.

2008-03-26 Thread John Nagle
Heiko Wundram wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 18:54:29 schrieb Michael Ströder:
 Heiko Wundram wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 17:33:43 schrieb John Nagle:

 I didn't say it was unusual or frowned upon (and I was also taught this at 
 uni 
 IIRC as a means to easily distribute systems which don't have specific 
 requirements for response time to RPC requests), but anyway, as you noted for 
 Biztalk, it's much easier to hit bottlenecks with a polling-style RPC than 
 with a true RPC system, as I've come to experience when the number of nodes 
 (i.e., backends) grew over the last year and a half.

 I know, I don't like the polling either.  The time scale is
such that the poll delay isn't a problem, though, and because it's
using the MySQL MEMORY engine, there's no disk I/O.  After completing
a request, the rating scheduler immediately queries the database,
so there's no lost time if there's a queue.  The polling delay
only applies when a rating server is idle.

 I miss QNX, which has good message passing primitives.
Linux is weak in that area.

John Nagle

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