Re: Spammy spam spam spam spam
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:55 pm, Case Solution & Analysis wrote: > Our e-mail address is CASESOLUTIONSCENTRE (AT) GMAIL (DOT) COM. Please replace > (at) by @ and (dot) by . Since we don't yet have a protocol for transmitting a punch to the face over TCP/IP, is it be wrong of me to wish that some white knight hacker would DDOS these spammy bastards until their supposed business goes broke? -- Steve “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spammy spam spam spam spam
On 04/07/2017 16:40, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:55 pm, Case Solution & Analysis wrote: Our e-mail address is CASESOLUTIONSCENTRE (AT) GMAIL (DOT) COM. Please replace (at) by @ and (dot) by . Since we don't yet have a protocol for transmitting a punch to the face over TCP/IP, is it be wrong of me to wish that some white knight hacker would DDOS these spammy bastards until their supposed business goes broke? At risk of annoying you further... we've been filtering them from the mailing list for a while now. TJG -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Sep 7, 5:37 pm, MrBally wrote: > On Sep 7, 8:31 pm, Kevin Katovic > wrote: > > > Downloadhttp://centraltits.blogspot.com/2009/09/where-can-beginner-start-inve... > > Free videos high resolution photos and much more. You know what to > > do! Free Downloads! > > Sold! Thanks everyone. spam -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam
Hi, There seems to be lot of spam coming in this newsgroup. Is it possible to have some mechanism similar to say - slashdot - wherein mails can be moderated by any of the usual users? This is required only for people who is posting for the first time (or people who has been rated spam before). Second post onwards, no moderation required. Just wondering. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam???
What's with all the spam on the list? I humbly request that recaptcha or some other sort of captcha be implemented on the registration page. AJ ONeal -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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>> I'm pretty sure all of the spam is automated, so your message won't >> get through to anyone. D'Arcy> Well, it got through to us adding to our spam problem. Right. I apologize that so much spam seems to be leaking through still. I am working on the problem. I'm pretty sure at this point that I am seeing all the spam (even those messages which gmail thoughtfully traps for me) and have modified things slightly so that I can dig into the reasons why some spams are missed and some pretty obvious hams are held. So, best approach now when you see a spam message is: try to rein in your sarcastic wit and just hit the 'd' key. -- Skip Montanaro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Jul 12, 9:21 am, Scott in SoCal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > rickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >spam > > *PLONK!* I love the way that people who plonk others feel the need to inform everyone of it. That ranks up there with, "I know what you are, but what am I?" -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Spam
I've noticed that python-list gets significantly more spam than the other lists I subscribe to. There's an example below. I'm wondering how the list is managed. Can anyone post, or only members? I've picked the email addresses of the list managers out of the list info page, but I wonder if you guys have enough time to skim the list and boot offending members. If not, is there someone who is active on the list that you could delegate administration privileges to? Maybe someone who has been an active member for a long time? I'm willing, but probably not qualified. I've been lurking on the list for a while, but I don't contribute much because I'm not very proficient with Python. Thank you. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- Forwarded message -- From: Ashraf Ali Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM Subject: Hello My Sweet Friends. To: python-list@python.org Hello Friends. How are you all? Please Visit the following link if you know about Pakistan and what happening in the world. http://bollywoodactresseshotpictures.blogspot.com/ http://jobopportunitiesinpakistan.blogspot.com/ http://hotfemaletennisplayershotphotos.blogspot.com/ http://watchonlineindianmovies.blogspot.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam, bacon, sausage and Spam
On 23/07/2020 20:39, Christian Heimes wrote: On 23/07/2020 02.12, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 22Jul2020 15:00, Christian Heimes wrote: ... would it be possible to reduce the amount of EuroPython spam on @python.org mailing lists to a sensible level? This mailing list is a general discussion list for the Python programming language. It's not a conference advertisement list. +1 (see later) I, OTOH, am unperturbed. +1 ... I have never attended EuroPython and probably never will (I'm on the other side of the planet) but I'm still interested. Rather than subscribe to every conference thing, getting them here is very convenient. +1 (and make a note to follow-up afterwards, because many PyCons post videos of the presentations - not as good as being-there, but less expensive than an RtW air-ticket!) ... I'm not disputing the fact that a conference can use the generic Python users list for announcements. It's the fact that EP is literally spamming the list with threads like "Opening our merchandise shop", "Find a new job", "Introducing our diamond sponsor", and "Presenting our conference booklet". That's just spam to advertise for the conference or a company. Some EP announcements were cross-posted to multiple mailing lists like psf-commun...@python.org, too. Agreed: There is a difference between announcing conference details, and selling 'stuff' to attendees. (I don't know: but would a non-attendee buy the t-shirt?) python.org has a dedicated conference mailing list for conference related announcements. Additional to general conferen...@python.org EuroPython has 2 (in words *TWO*) additional mailing lists for announcements and discussions (europyt...@python.org, europython-annou...@python.org). ... Agreed However, "This mailing list is a general discussion list for the Python programming language" and per earlier reply, advice of a conference holds general interest (as well) - and is an encouragement to other PyCons (organisers) around the world. Were we to ban EuroPython, would we also have to take a stand against beginners posting basic questions (given that there is a specific Tutor list)? "General" means nothing-specific (as anyone in the military can tell you)! In truth, I did delete many of these msgs after a cursory scan of their content (cf reading). Some people have replied to me in private because they did not dare to speak out against a prominent member of the Python community in public. At least one person has followed up with Code Of Conduct working group because they are annoyed by the spam. Like the decision to use vim or emacs, this topic can generate a lot of heat and emotion. Is there room for both? (and for 'modern IDEs') The "dare not speak out" is sad - both for the individuals and/or the organisation. Wither "inclusion" and "tolerance"? -- Regards =dn -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam reported
Spam reported to Google. -- To email me, substitute nowhere->spamcop, invalid->net. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Pycon Spam
Has anyone else received spam (unsolicited email) about PyCon 2009? I've just got an email from "Roy Hyunjin Han" <@columbia.edu> and as far as I can tell it's not associated with any list I've subscribed to. If it is spam I'm guessing the from address is fake (why would someone I don't know send me an impersonal notice at Pycon?). But on the other hand, why would anyone spam about Pycon anyway? Hmmm. At the end of the email are two links to job sites ventureloop and startuply. Are they responsible for the spam? Anyway - anyone else got this? It starts: This year's Python Conference is in Chicago and will feature topics ranging from web development and scientific computing Andrew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
In article , TBK says... > >On Sep 7, 5:37=A0pm, MrBally wrote: >> On Sep 7, 8:31=A0pm, Kevin Katovic >> wrote: >> >> > Downloadhttp://centraltits.blogspot.com/2009/09/where-can-beginner-star= >t-inve... >> > Free videos high resolution photos and much more. =A0You know what to >> > do! Free Downloads! >> >> Sold! Thanks everyone. > >spam Thank God you pointed this out to everyone. We would not have known otherwise. Asswipe. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
"TBK" wrote in message news:b073f805-f8ce-49b3-b2d4-3d29bd97a...@j4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... *snip* > > > > > Download *snip URL* > > > Free videos high resolution photos and much more. You know what to > > > do! Free Downloads! > > > > Sold! Thanks everyone. > > spam If you feel the need to respond to a spam like this, please snip out any URLs or email addresses used by the spammers -- otherwise all you're doing is giving the spammer more advertising. -- Steve Lord sl...@mathworks.com comp.soft-sys.matlab (CSSM) FAQ: http://matlabwiki.mathworks.com/MATLAB_FAQ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
"Steven Lord" writes: [snip] > If you feel the need to respond to a spam like this, please snip out any > URLs or email addresses used by the spammers -- otherwise all you're doing > is giving the spammer more advertising. Better yet, if you feel the need to respond to a spam, step away from the keyboard until the feeling passes. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks...@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> Nokia "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this." -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister" -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ConFoo spam?
Hi All, Is it just me or does the mailing of just about every single python-based project mailing list with a 90% form email advertising a conference that only has one python track *and* clashes with PyCon feel just a bit like spam? I know it's enough to put me off even considering going to ConFoo, whatever it is... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam filter?
So, Can mailing lists have its mail filtered? I get more spam via mailing lists than I do in my own inbox. I am not just singling this mailing list. I see it a lot now. Danyelle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python spam?
Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header analysis proves they didn't send it). -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Usenet is not a democracy. It is a weird cross between an anarchy and a dictatorship. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
spam magnet
Hello, I hear (from google) that people get a lot of spam after posting to this list. That's nice, because I, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , happen to want a lot of spam :) Anyone who would like to send me their spam is welcome to as well (full headers please, I'm trying to track & corellate those wascally bots :)) SuperSpamCollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] :D -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam avoidance
I've noticed that there is little to no spam in comp.lang.python and am wondering how this is accomplished. Is there a moderator who actively cancels spam? If so, that wouldn't seem to prevent spam from making it through to the mailing list version of the newsgroup. Is there an exceptionally good spam filter in place? If so, I haven't previously seen one that works so well. Have spammers just given up on Usenet, figuring that there are more exciting places to spam than the Big 8 dinosaur? The reason that I ask is that I help to run another newsgroup (rec.music.gaffa) and we avoid spam by requiring that every participant who wants to post has to register on a Mailman. But I think that this approach has the seriously detrimental effect of discouraging new participants, so I've been wondering about alternative approaches. |>oug -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
> There seems to be lot of spam coming in this newsgroup. > Is it possible to have some mechanism similar to say - slashdot - > wherein mails can be moderated by any of the usual users? > This is required only for people who is posting for the first time > (or people who has been rated spam before). Second post onwards, no > moderation required. >Just wondering. C.P.L is an unmoderated newsgroup: so there's no content controls on posts. I don't think that's possible to change. But I haven't gotten directly near a newsgroup-as-a-newsgroup in eons, so I may be wrong. If you subscribe to C.P.L as a mailing list instead of a newsgroup, I believe most of the spam gets filtered out at the mailing list<->news group gateway by the Python.org spam filters... At least no spam in my Gmail spam folder appears to be flagged from this group(at a very brief glance) so they appear to be doing quite well. http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list is the list subscription page. (C.P.L and python-list are essentially the same thing: things posted to the list get forwarded to the newsgroup, and vice-versa) --S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
> C.P.L C.L.P even. Ahem. --S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
If you subscribe to C.P.L as a mailing list instead of a newsgroup, I believe most of the spam gets filtered out at the mailing list<->news group gateway by the Python.org spam filters... At least no spam in my Gmail spam folder appears to be flagged from this group(at a very brief glance) so they appear to be doing quite well. Allow me to take this opportunity to thank the folks that *are* doing/managing this spam-filtering of the mailing list side of things -- the drastic drop in spam (from 6+ months back) is much appreciated! Though I guess this thread does beg the question: is there a way to read the filtered mailing list with a newsreader (via NNTP) instead of getting it delivered via email or subjecting oneself to the spamminess of c.l.p? I like some of the "kill-thread" types of options I've got on the NNTP side of readers that aren't as readily available to me on the email side of things (Thunderbird allows for thread-kills in News, but not in email). -tkc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
On Feb 12, 10:23 am, Tim Chase wrote: > > If you subscribe to C.P.L as a mailing list instead of a > > newsgroup, I believe most of the spam gets filtered out at the > > mailing list<->news group gateway by the Python.org spam > > filters... At least no spam in my Gmail spam folder appears to > > be flagged from this group(at a very brief glance) so they > > appear to be doing quite well. > > Allow me to take this opportunity to thank the folks that *are* > doing/managing this spam-filtering of the mailing list side of > things -- the drastic drop in spam (from 6+ months back) is much > appreciated! > > Though I guess this thread does beg the question: is there a way > to read the filtered mailing list with a newsreader (via NNTP) > instead of getting it delivered via email or subjecting oneself > to the spamminess of c.l.p? I like some of the "kill-thread" > types of options I've got on the NNTP side of readers that aren't > as readily available to me on the email side of things > (Thunderbird allows for thread-kills in News, but not in email). > > -tkc Enhancement request for google: hide messages by a certain author it would be individually set, but can get rid of a lot of junk at once. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
A quick search on "imap nntp" turned up this list that might be useful - http://deflexion.com/messaging/ although I wonder when it was written because I remember using Aaron's RSS to email aggregator when RSS was new(!). It mentions gmane, though, which certainly still exists (I assume it carries this list too). And this page suggests you can read gmane via nntp - http://reticule.gmane.org/ Aha! yes! It;s in the FAQ :o) Can I read news via secure NNTP (nntps)? Yes. Point your news reader towards nntps://snews.gmane.org/. http://www.gmane.org/faq.php I should be working; I will try that this evening. What was the name of the client that threaded messages with a cute ascii tree?! Cheers, Andrew Tim Chase wrote: > Though I guess this thread does beg the question: is there a way > to read the filtered mailing list with a newsreader (via NNTP) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
On 2009-02-12, andrew cooke wrote: > Can I read news via secure NNTP (nntps)? > Yes. Point your news reader towards nntps://snews.gmane.org/. > > http://www.gmane.org/faq.php > > I should be working; I will try that this evening. What was the name of > the client that threaded messages with a cute ascii tree?! slrn? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! How's the wife? at Is she at home enjoying visi.comcapitalism? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
Grant Edwards wrote: >> I should be working; I will try that this evening. What was the name of >> the client that threaded messages with a cute ascii tree?! > > slrn? i think i was remembering trn, which is now apparently dead. will try slrn... thanks, andrew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
In article , andrew cooke wrote: >Grant Edwards wrote: >>> I should be working; I will try that this evening. What was the name of >>> the client that threaded messages with a cute ascii tree?! >> >> slrn? > >i think i was remembering trn, which is now apparently dead. will try >slrn... thanks, andrew trn 3.6 works fine for me ... just as it has for almost twenty years. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
andrew cooke wrote: A quick search on "imap nntp" turned up this list that might be useful - http://deflexion.com/messaging/ although I wonder when it was written because I remember using Aaron's RSS to email aggregator when RSS was new(!). It mentions gmane, though, which certainly still exists (I assume it carries this list too). Yes. For everything possible, I read and post via gmane. Gmane mirrors technical mailing lists. As near as I can tell, posts via gmane go to the mailing list first, for whatever filtering the list does. Conversely then, gmane only posts the filtered output from the mailing list. > And this page suggests you can read gmane via nntp - http://reticule.gmane.org/ news.gmane.org works fine. Aha! yes! It;s in the FAQ :o) Can I read news via secure NNTP (nntps)? Yes. Point your news reader towards nntps://snews.gmane.org/. http://www.gmane.org/faq.php -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
Terry Reedy wrote: andrew cooke wrote: A quick search on "imap nntp" turned up this list that might be useful - http://deflexion.com/messaging/ although I wonder when it was written because I remember using Aaron's RSS to email aggregator when RSS was new(!). It mentions gmane, though, which certainly still exists (I assume it carries this list too). Yes. For everything possible, I read and post via gmane. Gmane mirrors technical mailing lists. As near as I can tell, posts via gmane go to the mailing list first, for whatever filtering the list does. Conversely then, gmane only posts the filtered output from the mailing list. > And this page suggests you can read gmane via nntp - http://reticule.gmane.org/ news.gmane.org works fine. Aha! yes! It;s in the FAQ :o) Can I read news via secure NNTP (nntps)? Yes. Point your news reader towards nntps://snews.gmane.org/. http://www.gmane.org/faq.php I just switched my Thunderbird gmane account to snews... and [x] use ssl and it seems to work ok. It did, however, reset everything to unread. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
I am a little disturbed that there are no moderators, mostly because I received an email back from the list"Your mail to 'Python-list' with the subject. Above and beyond, critique request. Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 41670 bytes with a limit of 40 KB. Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL:" So does this mean it will never actually be reviewed? Thanks Vincent Davis On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Terry Reedy wrote: > >> andrew cooke wrote: >> >>> A quick search on "imap nntp" turned up this list that might be useful - >>> http://deflexion.com/messaging/ although I wonder when it was written >>> because I remember using Aaron's RSS to email aggregator when RSS was >>> new(!). >>> >>> It mentions gmane, though, which certainly still exists (I assume it >>> carries this list too). >>> >> >> Yes. For everything possible, I read and post via gmane. Gmane mirrors >> technical mailing lists. As near as I can tell, posts via gmane go to the >> mailing list first, for whatever filtering the list does. Conversely then, >> gmane only posts the filtered output from the mailing list. >> >> > And this page suggests you can read gmane via >> >>> nntp - http://reticule.gmane.org/ >>> >> >> news.gmane.org works fine. >> >> Aha! yes! It;s in the FAQ :o) >>> >>> Can I read news via secure NNTP (nntps)? >>> Yes. Point your news reader towards nntps://snews.gmane.org/. >>> >>> http://www.gmane.org/faq.php >>> >> > I just switched my Thunderbird gmane account to snews... and [x] use ssl > and it seems to work ok. It did, however, reset everything to unread. > > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
spam update
With some help from the python.org postmasters over the weekend I figured out why some seemingly obvious spam messages seem to be making it to the python-list@python.org mailing list. Messages gatewayed from Usenet don't pass through the spam filters. Mailman simply distributes them. There is still no resolution, but at least I understand the cause now. For now, mailing list users please be patient as we try to resolve this issue. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam???
Alvin> What's with all the spam on the list? Alvin> I humbly request that recaptcha or some other sort Alvin> of captcha be implemented on the registration page. Known issue. The spam filters are currently not applied to messages gatewayed to the mailing list from Usenet. I have been working on a solution as I have time, but it's not there yet. Even if/when the spam filtering on the list gets better you should run your own spam filter anyway. -- Skip Montanaro - s...@pobox.com - http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: spam
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:32:26 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure all of the spam is automated, so your message won't > >> get through to anyone. > > D'Arcy> Well, it got through to us adding to our spam problem. > > Right. I apologize that so much spam seems to be leaking through still. I In fact my system successfully filtered out the original spam so that was not my problem. > am working on the problem. I'm pretty sure at this point that I am seeing > all the spam (even those messages which gmail thoughtfully traps for me) and > have modified things slightly so that I can dig into the reasons why some > spams are missed and some pretty obvious hams are held. I am sure that we all appreciate your efforts. That doesn't mean that we should depend on you to block 100% of the spam. We need to take some responsibility on our own systems too. > So, best approach now when you see a spam message is: try to rein in your > sarcastic wit and just hit the 'd' key. Well, yes, that was my point. I had managed to filter out the spam but then had to deal with someone responding here to a spam that I never saw. The sarcasm was directed at the person who replied to the spam rather than hitting the 'd' key. This conversation sounds like we are in "violent agreement." :-) -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
spam kontrol
hii ı think you know spam page is the most pest for net user.I want distinguish spam page to usefull page if you have a idea whit this problem pleas share to me thank you -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
"John Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. > > Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. > The guy gets Google dollars when people view the site or click on links, me thinks. It's spam. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. -- John Bean -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
just bob wrote: > "John Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. >> >> Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. >> > > The guy gets Google dollars when people view the site or click on links, me > thinks. It's spam. Yes, but it's not SPAM. SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation for a canned pork product. Spam is unwanted messages or email. -- Lew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
You can do a little spamming of your own here... http://help.blogger.com/?page=troubleshooter.cs&problem=&ItemType=spam&contact_type=Spam&Submit=Continue Just enter the offending blogspot URL and hopefully they'll sort this guy out. Steve "just bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
Lew wrote: > Yes, but it's not SPAM. > > SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation for a canned > pork product. > > Spam is unwanted messages or email. It should be rather obvious what is was. Why not leave it to Hormel to complain ? Arne -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
Arne Vajhøj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lew wrote: > > SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation for a > > canned pork product. > > > > Spam is unwanted messages or email. > > Why not leave it to Hormel to complain ? Because it's better to deal with incorrect terminology at a social level, before it gets to the point where lawyers need to become involved. -- \ "Contentment is a pearl of great price, and whosoever procures | `\it at the expense of ten thousand desires makes a wise and | _o__) happy purchase." -- J. Balguy | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
"Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > just bob wrote: >> "John Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. >>> >>> Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. >>> >> >> The guy gets Google dollars when people view the site or click on links, >> me thinks. It's spam. > > Yes, but it's not SPAM. > > SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation for a canned > pork product. > > Spam is unwanted messages or email. Or "SPAM" , is me shouting an alert for spam. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
dear "just bob", On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:43 -0800, just bob wrote: > "John Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. > > > > Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. > > > > The guy gets Google dollars when people view the site or click on links, me > thinks. It's spam. please read the rfc4871 if you want to attack izb.knu.ac.kr ;; respect, bh -- "I'll give you some more straight talk. After the Don died, Mike was set up to be killed. Do you know who set him up? Tessio. So Tessio had to be killed. Carlo had to be killed. Because treachery can't be forgiven. Michael could have forgiven it, but people never forgive themselves and so they would always be dangerous. Michael really liked Tessio. He loves his sister. But he would be shrinking his duty to you and his children, to his whole family, to me and my family, if he let Tessio and Carlo go free. They would have been a danger to us all, all our lives." -- Tom Hagen, "Chapter 32", page 442 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Proclaimed from the tallest tower: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:12:23 -0500, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> just bob wrote: >>> "John Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. >>>> >>>> Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. >>>> >>> >>> The guy gets Google dollars when people view the site or click on >>> links, me thinks. It's spam. >> >> Yes, but it's not SPAM. >> >> SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation for a >> canned pork product. >> >> Spam is unwanted messages or email. > > No, that is usually called U.C.E. Unsolicited Commercial Email yea, but WHO(and I'm talking about the general public) actually uses(or has even heard of) that acronym? -- Regards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPAM
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:08:56 -, "ChrisM" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Proclaimed from the tallest tower: >> >>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:12:23 -0500, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> just bob wrote: >>>>> "John Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>>>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:35 -0800, "just bob" >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Your SPAM appears to be non-existent. Vapourware. Not real. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shame, I fancied a Spam fritter. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The guy gets Google dollars when people view the site or click on >>>>> links, me thinks. It's spam. >>>> >>>> Yes, but it's not SPAM. >>>> >>>> SPAM is a registered trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation for a >>>> canned pork product. >>>> >>>> Spam is unwanted messages or email. >>> >>> No, that is usually called U.C.E. >> >>Unsolicited Commercial Email yea, but WHO(and I'm talking about the general >>public) actually uses(or has even heard of) that acronym? > >I have, apparently! > Nah, you're using a proper newsreader to access Usenet so by definition you're not "general public" who only understand pointy-clicky-webby things. -- John Bean -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: spam
rickman wrote: On Jul 12, 9:21 am, Scott in SoCal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: spam *PLONK!* I love the way that people who plonk others feel the need to inform everyone of it. That ranks up there with, "I know what you are, but what am I?" That's one interpretation, likely not the plonkers but supportable by reasoning. Another supportable interpretation is that it both does the offender the courtesy of notification so that they get one last chance to reconsider their behavior, and suggests to the community at large that they follow suit. So a public "plonk" is actually a service both to the troll/spammer/innocent victim of slander and to the larger newsgroup community. -- Lew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: spam
rickman wrote: >I love the way that people who plonk others feel the need to inform >everyone of it. That ranks up there with, "I know what you are, but >what am I?" It is a matter of basic politeness and common courtesy. Without the plonk, the killfiled poster is left hanging in the wind, wasting his time writing responses that will never be read. If you were talking with a blind man, would you silently creep out of the room leaving him talking to the walls, or would you be polite and excuse yourself before leaving? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: spam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rickman wrote: I love the way that people who plonk others feel the need to inform everyone of it. That ranks up there with, "I know what you are, but what am I?" It is a matter of basic politeness and common courtesy. Without the plonk, the killfiled poster is left hanging in the wind, wasting his time writing responses that will never be read. If you were talking with a blind man, would you silently creep out of the room leaving him talking to the walls, or would you be polite and excuse yourself before leaving? I think most people will want to be polite to a blind. I very much doubt that the same applies to usenet posters they want to plonk. Arne -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: spam
rickman wrote: spam *Why* are you replying to spam messages like this? The spam in c.a.e. usually costs me about 10-15 seconds a day pressing "K" for "kill thread" on my newsreader - but your bizarre new habit has cost me far more in trying to think out a rational explanation for your posts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
> They are literally criminals, they use computer viruses and malware to > hijack people's computers to send their spam, and you want to trust them > and buy from them? this was probably a "Drive By" posy to get the original spam more attention & possibly bypass spam filters -- Come live with me, and be my love, And we will some new pleasures prove Of golden sands, and crystal brooks, With silken lines, and silver hooks. -- John Donne -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam levels.
I've been reading a limited range of Usenet groups since the late 1980s, and until the recent problems in comp.lang.python had never bothered with any sort of filtering; it's easier just to ignore people. However, the sheer volume of spam in comp.lang.python finally defeated me, so I set up a filter in my leafnode NNTP server, which pulls from eternal-september and gmane (read-only). The results for the last few weeks are below: Jan 20 15:34:39 comp.lang.python: 50 articles fetched, 71 killed Jan 21 14:21:30 comp.lang.python: 25 articles fetched, 18 killed Jan 26 13:04:40 comp.lang.python: 85 articles fetched, 276 killed Jan 28 22:58:42 comp.lang.python: 83 articles fetched, 184 killed Jan 29 16:07:11 comp.lang.python: 41 articles fetched, 52 killed Jan 30 16:57:03 comp.lang.python: 57 articles fetched, 56 killed Jan 31 16:52:01 comp.lang.python: 39 articles fetched, 87 killed Feb 1 16:02:49 comp.lang.python: 39 articles fetched, 73 killed Feb 2 14:39:46 comp.lang.python: 43 articles fetched, 57 killed Feb 3 18:17:55 comp.lang.python: 19 articles fetched, 108 killed Feb 4 15:28:03 comp.lang.python: 36 articles fetched, 122 killed Feb 5 15:26:08 comp.lang.python: 45 articles fetched, 79 killed Feb 6 16:29:40 comp.lang.python: 68 articles fetched, 93 killed Feb 7 16:43:26 comp.lang.python: 32 articles fetched, 118 killed Feb 8 16:01:14 comp.lang.python: 41 articles fetched, 100 killed Feb 9 17:06:09 comp.lang.python: 47 articles fetched, 201 killed giving the totals: Kept: 750 articles Killed: 1695 articles Until the last few days the spammers were using a fixed format, but recently I've had to play whack-a-mole with filtering, so the Killed total is probably underestimated by ten or twenty posts. No other groups (in the limited set which I read) have the problem, and I don't understand why the spammers neither spam a range of groups, nor change their adddresses more frequently. It may be that destroying comp.lang.python is their actual objective. Either way, a depressing state of affairs. Will -- "As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron." -- H. L. Mencken. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
spam issue
Why is this group have such an obscene number of spam posts ? I'm subscribed to a few other google groups and this is the only one that has this issue. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spam user
Hi all, Could someone remove wucbad...@gmx.com from the group? Thanks Ricardo -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Ghodmode wrote: > I'm willing, but probably not qualified. I've been lurking on the > list for a while, but I don't contribute much because I'm not very > proficient with Python. > I don't see Python proficiency as a prerequisite for recognizing spammers :) If you are willing to take on the job, I would support your application for the power to do it. Chris Angelico -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Ghodmode wrote: > I've noticed that python-list gets significantly more spam than the > other lists I subscribe to. There's an example below. > > I'm wondering how the list is managed. Can anyone post, or only > members? Since we're gatewayed to USENET's comp.lang.python anyway, I'd strongly suspect the former. So unfortunately, I doubt your idea could be implemented short of making the list moderated (very unlikely to happen due to the level of activity) or disabling the gateway (again unlikely due to historical momentum and USENET dinosaurs). I understand that there are spam filters in place though, so it might be worth asking that they be tweaked. (e.g. I doubt there are many legit posts involving Bollywood.) > I've picked the email addresses of the list managers out of > the list info page, but I wonder if you guys have enough time to skim > the list and boot offending members. If not, is there someone who is > active on the list that you could delegate administration privileges > to? Maybe someone who has been an active member for a long time? > > I'm willing, but probably not qualified. I've been lurking on the > list for a while, but I don't contribute much because I'm not very > proficient with Python. > > Thank you. > > -- > Ghodmode > http://www.ghodmode.com/blog > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ashraf Ali And off to ab...@gmail.com I dash. Fsck you Mr. Ali. (Yeah, not their real name, I know. Still worth reporting such accounts.) Cheers, Chris > Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM > Subject: Hello My Sweet Friends. > To: python-list@python.org > > > Hello Friends. > How are you all? > Please Visit the following link if you know about Pakistan and what > happening in the world. P.S. Please redact the actual spam links next time so that they don't get further Google juice. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
Chris Rebert wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Ghodmode wrote: I'm wondering how the list is managed. Can anyone post, or only members? Since we're gatewayed to USENET's comp.lang.python anyway, I'd strongly suspect the former. You may get a better experience by reading the usenet group instead, and doing it through a good news site. I'm using news.individual.de, and seeing near enough to zero spam on comp.lang.python, so they must be doing a good job of filtering. -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
Ghodmode wrote: > I've noticed that python-list gets significantly more spam than the > other lists I subscribe to. There's an example below. Thanks for that! I missed it the first time, so it is very helpful for you to forward it. It's especially helpful that you included all the spammer's URLs, as that will help improve their Google page ranks. I'm sure the spammer will thank you for your assistance. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
I agree, the Bollywood spam sucks. There's not even any boobies! On Aug 1, 2011 4:16 AM, "Steven D'Aprano" < steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > Ghodmode wrote: > >> I've noticed that python-list gets significantly more spam than the >> other lists I subscribe to. There's an example below. > > Thanks for that! I missed it the first time, so it is very helpful for you > to forward it. It's especially helpful that you included all the spammer's > URLs, as that will help improve their Google page ranks. I'm sure the > spammer will thank you for your assistance. > > > -- > Steven > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
Steven D'Aprano wrote: I've noticed that python-list gets significantly more spam than the > other lists I subscribe to. There's an example below. Thanks for that! I missed it the first time, so it is very helpful for you to forward it. It's especially helpful that you included all the spammer's URLs, as that will help improve their Google page ranks. I'm sure the spammer will thank you for your assistance. Yeah, a couple of good rules to follow for well intentioned citizens: 1) don't feed the trolls 2) don't repackage spam Having said that, either because I was tired or because I dropped my defensive posture, I have messed up on those two little rules more than once. It is possible to filter spam very effectively. My mail client has a spam-can based on a multitude of trial and guess rules that with almost oh 97 percent rate puts the right stuff into the can and saves me the trouble of manually filtering it. Granted, I still need to quickly peek through the can files... but this is pretty easy to do... because non spam shows up like a rose among thorns in a spam-can. The trouble is that this group does like to debate off-topic stuff frequently (usually its at least edge related to Python) and so who is to tell (as a moderator) what is spam? Well, your example is fairly obvious, but other stuff (even like this note) may not be. I don't consider this spam, because its related to this list and because I am interested in the same issue as your OP complaint. But, I am absolutely sure that others will view your note, and mine, as spam... see the problem? -- m harris FSF ...free as in freedom/ http://webpages.charter.net/harrismh777/gnulinux/gnulinux.htm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:17 AM, harrismh777 wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> I've noticed that python-list gets significantly more spam than the >>> > other lists I subscribe to. There's an example below. >>> >> Thanks for that! I missed it the first time, so it is very helpful for you >> to forward it. It's especially helpful that you included all the spammer's >> URLs, as that will help improve their Google page ranks. I'm sure the >> spammer will thank you for your assistance. >> > > Yeah, a couple of good rules to follow for well intentioned citizens: > 1) don't feed the trolls > 2) don't repackage spam > I hope it's clear that reading an email doesn't constitute visiting all of the sites linked in the email and therefore doesn't improve Google page ranks or provide any other tracking information. Also note that the original email didn't have anything like a tracking pixel. Even the urls were just text. They only became links if the readers' email client turned them into links. My email wasn't dangerous or helpful to the spammer in any way. Having said that, either because I was tired or because I dropped my > defensive posture, I have messed up on those two little rules more than > once. > > It is possible to filter spam very effectively. My mail client has a > spam-can based on a multitude of trial and guess rules that with almost oh > 97 percent rate puts the right stuff into the can and saves me the trouble > of manually filtering it. Granted, I still need to quickly peek through the > can files... but this is pretty easy to do... because non spam shows up like > a rose among thorns in a spam-can. > > The trouble is that this group does like to debate off-topic stuff > frequently (usually its at least edge related to Python) and so who is to > tell (as a moderator) what is spam? Well, your example is fairly obvious, > but other stuff (even like this note) may not be. I don't consider this > spam, because its related to this list and because I am interested in the > same issue as your OP complaint. But, I am absolutely sure that others will > view your note, and mine, as spam... see the problem? > I think we have a generally accepted idea of what spam is, and it's much different from off-topic threads. An automated system might not be able to identify the differences as easily, but a person could. Especially if that person is an active member of the community and reads all of the threads anyway. > -- > m harris > > FSF ...free as in freedom/ > http://webpages.charter.net/**harrismh777/gnulinux/gnulinux.**htm<http://webpages.charter.net/harrismh777/gnulinux/gnulinux.htm> > > -- > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list> > My intentions were constructive and helpful, but it has gotten a little out of hand. Based on some of the information provided, my idea might not be technically feasible anyway. So, I won't be reading or commenting on this thread further. I am truly sorry for any misunderstandings or time lost. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:58 AM, Ghodmode wrote: > I hope it's clear that reading an email doesn't constitute visiting all of > the sites linked in the email and therefore doesn't improve Google page > ranks or provide any other tracking information. Also note that the > original email didn't have anything like a tracking pixel. Even the urls > were just text. They only became links if the readers' email client turned > them into links. My email wasn't dangerous or helpful to the spammer in any > way. You're correct about emails per se, but list mail gets archived to web-accessible pages: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2011-August/1277607.html And yes, URLs become clickable. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
If you click the "more options" link, there is an option in the sub- menu to report a post as spam. You can also forward it along with the offending e-mail address to s...@uce.gov -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam
David wrote: > If you click the "more options" link, there is an option in the sub- > menu to report a post as spam. You can also forward it along with the > offending e-mail address to s...@uce.gov What "more options" link? Are you referring to a specific program? If so, which? Remember, people are reading this via email: Thunderbird, Outlook, Outlook Express, Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Kmail, mutt, and hundreds of other programs; also via Usenet, again with multiple programs; on the web, via Google Groups or any of a dozen or so different websites. They don't all have a "more options" link. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
List spam
I really like this list as part of my learning tools but the amount of spam that I've been getting from it is CRAZY. Doesn't anything get scanned before it sent to the list? Jason ..·><º> -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Why 'class spam(object)' instead of class spam(Object)' ?
Hi, I'm kinda new to Python (that means, I'm a total noob here), but have one doubt which is more about consistency that anything else. Why if PEP 8 says that "Almost without exception, class names use the CapWords convention", does the most basic class, object, is lowercase? I found a thread about this: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2007-April/437365.html where its stated that -object- is actually a type, not a class; but the idea still doesn't convince me. If i create a class Spam using -object- as a parent class, I would expect -object- to be a class, not a type as in type(object) (what is the difference between both btw?). But, on the other hand, if I do help(object), I get: >>> help(object) Help on class object in module __builtin__: class object | The most base type So is this a class? No... >>> object My doubts get compounded when strange stuff starts to happen: >>> class Eggs(object): def __init__(self): self.x = 1 >>> type(Eggs) Type 'type'? What is that supposed to mean? Hope this makes any sense ;), Sergio -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam reported
On 2009-10-20, Peter Pearson wrote: > Reported to Google's groups-abuse. What are these postings supposed to mean? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I've read SEVEN at MILLION books!! visi.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam reported
In article , Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-10-20, Peter Pearson wrote: > > Reported to Google's groups-abuse. > What are these postings supposed to mean? I think some people don't recognize that this forum is distributed through several channels (e.g. Usenet, python.org mailing list, gmane.org, Google Groups, etc) and that those of us *not* reading through Google Groups aren't seeing this spam. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam reported
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2009-10-20, Peter Pearson wrote: > > > Reported to Google's groups-abuse. > > What are these postings supposed to mean? That the posting which started the thread (which you may or may not have seen, so it's good that Peter isn't quoting the original spam) has been reported to Google as an abuse of their service; so that others don't duplicate that effort. Thanks Peter. -- \ “Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey | `\ cage.” —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam reported
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:06:50 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: >> On 2009-10-20, Peter Pearson wrote: >> >> > Reported to Google's groups-abuse. >> >> What are these postings supposed to mean? > > That the posting which started the thread (which you may or may not have > seen, so it's good that Peter isn't quoting the original spam) has been > reported to Google as an abuse of their service; so that others don't > duplicate that effort. Hmmm. It didn't occur to me that my posts would be seen by people to whom the spam posts were invisible. That must indeed look strange. -- To email me, substitute nowhere->spamcop, invalid->net. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pycon Spam
Andrew, I'm on a lot of Python (and Python related) mailing lists and haven't received a message like you described. Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [SPAM] It's ...
Angus Rodgers wrote:
[snip]
This sort of thing seems to work, in the interpreter (for an
ASCII text file, named 'h071.txt', in the current directory):
stop = 3 # Tab stops every 3 characters
from types import StringType # Is this awkwardness necessary?
detab = lambda s : StringType.expandtabs(s, stop) # Or use def
f = open('h071.txt') # Do some stuff to f, perhaps, and then:
f.seek(0)
print ''.join(map(detab, f.xreadlines()))
f.close()
stop = 3 # Tab stops every 3 characters
detab = lambda s: s.expandtabs(stop)
f = open('h071.txt') # Do some stuff to f, perhaps, and then:
# f.seek(0) # Not necessary
print ''.join(map(detab, f.xreadlines()))
f.close()
Obviously, to turn this into a generally useful program, I need
to learn to write to a new file, and how to parcel up the Python
code, and write a script to apply the "detab" function to all the
files found by searching a Windows directory, and replace the old
files with the new ones; but, for the guts of the program, is this
a reasonable way to write the code to strip tabs from a text file?
For writing the output file, this seems to work in the interpreter:
g = open('temp.txt', 'w')
g.writelines(map(detab, f.xreadlines()))
g.close()
In practice, does this avoid creating the whole string in memory
at one time, as is done by using ''.join()? (I'll have to read up
on "opaque sequence objects", which have only been mentioned once
or twice in passing - another instance perhaps being an xrange()?)
Not that that matters much in practice (in this simple case), but
it seems elegant to avoid creating the whole output file at once.
OK, I'm just getting my feet wet, and I'll try not to ask too many
silly questions!
First impressions are: (1) Python seems both elegant and practical;
and (2) Beazley seems a pleasantly unfussy introduction for someone
with at least a little programming experience in other languages.
STOP = 3 # Tab stops every 3 characters
in_file = open('h071.txt')
out_file = open('temp.txt', 'w')
for line in in_file: # Iterates one line at a time
out_file.write(line.expandtabs(STOP))
in_file.close()
out_file.close()
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [SPAM] It's ...
Someone has gently directed me to the Tutor mailing list: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor> which I hadn't known about. I've joined, and will try to confine my initial blundering experiments to there. Sorry about the spam spam spam spam, lovely spam, wonderful spam! -- Angus Rodgers -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ConFoo spam?
Chris Withers writes: > Hi All, > > Is it just me or does the mailing of just about every single > python-based project mailing list with a 90% form email advertising a > conference that only has one python track *and* clashes with PyCon > feel just a bit like spam? > > I know it's enough to put me off even considering going to ConFoo, > whatever it is... The post appeared on TurboGears lists as well - but I actually consider it on-topic. We get enough other conference calls here, sometimes even without an actual python-track, but instead catering to specific scientific communities that might or might not use python. I don't consider this spam. It is certainly less annoying than the umpteenth GIL discussion... Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ConFoo spam?
On October 7, 2010, Chris Withers wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it just me or does the mailing of just about every single > python-based project mailing list with a 90% form email advertising a > conference that only has one python track and clashes with PyCon feel > just a bit like spam? > > I know it's enough to put me off even considering going to ConFoo, > whatever it is... [I'm sending this message again because the first time, I was not subscribed to the list and my reply seems to be withheld. I hope that the list moderator will see this and that you won't receive it twice.] Hello Chris and others, I'm sorry if our call for speakers was too broad. A few weeks ago, PyCon launched its call for speakers with a very massive coverage on great many mailing lists, including the Montréal-Python one. We understand that PyCon it THE Python conference and we actually appreciated that our low volume mailing list was considered important enough to receive the PyCon call for speakers. Inspired by that massive out-reach effort by the PyCon program committee, we decided to launch the ConFoo CFP with great glory too. A total of 24 lists were contacted, most of them related to Web development and a few where Python core hackers can be found on because Raymond Hettinger's talk last year was a great success. Should we only have contacted the Web related lists? Should we refrain from contacting any lists? I admit that we don't know what the right answer is but we will take the feedback from the community and adjust our strategy for next year. Regarding the clash with PyCon, we are also very torn. ConFoo does not have a lot of leverage to negotiate with the hotel so we had to book a date as early as possible to get a decent rate and we did it with PyCon 2010 dates in mind. When the news came out that PyCon would clash with ConFoo in a very significant manner, we, Montréal-Python, had the option to cancel the Python track or to look for a compromise, which was to ensure that all the Python talks would happen before the first day of PyCon talks. We'll do better next year but this is the best that we could do this year. By the way, ConFoo and Montréal-Python are non-profits, we do it because we want to show how Python is a viable Web development plate-form; we won't make money out of it. Again, I'm sorry if our call for speakers was too broad and we'll do better next year. Best regards, -- Yannick Gingras http://montrealpython.org -- lead organizer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ConFoo spam?
On October 7, 2010, Chris Withers wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it just me or does the mailing of just about every single > python-based project mailing list with a 90% form email advertising a > conference that only has one python track and clashes with PyCon feel > just a bit like spam? > > I know it's enough to put me off even considering going to ConFoo, > whatever it is... Hello Chris and others, I'm sorry if our call for speakers was too broad. A few weeks ago, PyCon launched its call for speakers with a very massive coverage on great many mailing lists, including the Montréal-Python one. We understand that PyCon it THE Python conference and we actually appreciated that our low volume mailing list was considered important enough to receive the PyCon call for speakers. Inspired by that massive out-reach effort by the PyCon program committee, we decided to launch the ConFoo CFP with great glory too. A total of 24 lists were contacted, most of them related to Web development and a few where Python core hackers can be found on because Raymond Hettinger's talk last year was a great success. Should we only have contacted the Web related lists? Should we refrain from contacting any lists? I admit that we don't know what the right answer is but we will take the feedback from the community and adjust our strategy for next year. Regarding the clash with PyCon, we are also very torn. ConFoo does not have a lot of leverage to negotiate with the hotel so we had to book a date as early as possible to get a decent rate and we did it with PyCon 2010 dates in mind. When the news came out that PyCon would clash with ConFoo in a very significant manner, we, Montréal-Python, had the option to cancel the Python track or to look for a compromise, which was to ensure that all the Python talks would happen before the first day of PyCon talks. We'll do better next year but this is the best that we could do this year. By the way, ConFoo and Montréal-Python are non-profits, we do it because we want to show how Python is a viable Web development plate-form; we won't make money out of it. Again, I'm sorry if our call for speakers was too broad and we'll do better next year. Best regards, -- Yannick Gingras http://montrealpython.org -- lead organizer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ConFoo spam?
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Chris Withers writes: >> >> Is it just me or does the mailing of just about every single >> python-based project mailing list with a 90% form email advertising a >> conference that only has one python track *and* clashes with PyCon >> feel just a bit like spam? > > The post appeared on TurboGears lists as well - but I actually consider > it on-topic. We get enough other conference calls here, sometimes even > without an actual python-track, but instead catering to specific > scientific communities that might or might not use python. > > I don't consider this spam. It is certainly less annoying than the > umpteenth GIL discussion... I don't consider it spam either and I subscribe to half the lists they sent it to. People announce and talk about things of no interest to me every day on python-list. You get used to it. [For the record ConFoo /does/ interest me, but I can't take a week and a half off to do that plus PyCon]. -Jack -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ConFoo spam?
On Oct 7, 10:01 am, Jack Diederich > [For the record > ConFoo /does/ interest me, but I can't take a week and a half off to > do that plus PyCon]. CooFoo is an excellent conference. Even in the non-python tracks, there are plenty of high quality talks that would be of interest to people tracking this list. I learned quite a bit last year. Raymond -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam filter?
Danyelle Gragsone wrote: > So, > > Can mailing lists have its mail filtered? I get more spam via mailing > lists than I do in my own inbox. I am not just singling this mailing > list. I see it a lot now. > If you had searched the list you would have found that this topic has been discussed from time to time. The fact of the matter is that a lot of effort does go into spam filtering this list, and the residual spam that you see actually represents a very low false negative rate. You wouldn't believe how much spam gets sent to the active mailing lists and newsgroups. If your own spam filtering is so good then maybe you should just subscribe to python-list instead of using a newsgroup, then your email filters will be applied to incoming articles from the list too. Oh, I see you *are* using python-list. So how come your filters don't work for the spam that gets posted? regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Skype: holdenweb http://del.icio.us/steve.holden --- Asciimercial -- Get on the web: Blog, lens and tag the Internet Many services currently offer free registration --- Thank You for Reading - -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
Aahz schrieb: > Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages > "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header > analysis proves they didn't send it). I'm getting spam not only from Barry, but also from myself ;-) with forged headers. But I'm not sure what you mean with Python-related... Not the contents, IIRC. Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Aahz schrieb: >> >> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages >> "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header >> analysis proves they didn't send it). > >I'm getting spam not only from Barry, but also from myself ;-) with >forged headers. But I'm not sure what you mean with Python-related... >Not the contents, IIRC. Thing is, I don't usually get spam "from" people I know (or at least it gets filtered before I see it), so someone is clearly using some resource of Python-related email addresses. Just seems rather odd, and I wonder whether it's some kind of DoS attack or what. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Member of the Groucho Marx Fan Club -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
[Aahz] >>> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages >>> "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header >>> analysis proves they didn't send it). [Thomas Heller] >> I'm getting spam not only from Barry, but also from myself ;-) with >> forged headers. But I'm not sure what you mean with Python-related... >> Not the contents, IIRC. [Aahz[ > Thing is, I don't usually get spam "from" people I know (or at least it > gets filtered before I see it), so someone is clearly using some resource > of Python-related email addresses. Just seems rather odd, and I wonder > whether it's some kind of DoS attack or what. It's been going on for years. The most frequent forged "Python related" sender address I've seen is actually [EMAIL PROTECTED], followed (but not closely) by /F's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spammers harvest legit addresses to forge via scraping web pages and via Trojans scouring newbies' address books. The latter probably accounts for the very high rate of [EMAIL PROTECTED] forgeries. Via the former, anyone with a "public" email address can expect to see it get forged sooner or later. About two years ago I sent a polite email to a porn vendor asking them to please stop forging one of my email addresses as the sender of their spam. They didn't reply, but within a few days I stopped receiving porn spam claiming to come from me. Frankly, I miss it :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
"Aahz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages > "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header > analysis proves they didn't send it). > -- not like that - just the normal crud from people giving me get rich quick tips on the stock market that is aimed at mobilising my money to follow theirs to help influence the price of a share... - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
Tim Peters wrote: > It's been going on for years. The most frequent forged "Python > related" sender address I've seen is actually [EMAIL PROTECTED], > followed (but not closely) by /F's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spammers > harvest legit addresses to forge via scraping web pages and via > Trojans scouring newbies' address books. when you get this kind of "clustering" effect, chances are that it's a trojan on someone's computer that's actually sending the mails, using mail addresses found on the infected computer (address books and browser caches are good sources for this). (so in your cases, it's probably just some poor python-dev reader who hasn't updated his virus checker lately...) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
aahz> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen aahz> messages "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of aahz> course header analysis proves they didn't send it). I blacklisted Barry long ago. He's probably sending out spam in my name in retaliation. ;-) Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > "Aahz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages >> "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header >> analysis proves they didn't send it). >> -- >> > > not like that - just the normal crud from people giving me get rich quick tips > on the stock market that is aimed at mobilising my money to follow theirs to > help influence the price of a share... > > - Hendrik > > > ...which I noticed works amazingly well in many cases, looking at the charts. which, again, means that the trick isn't likely to fizzle out soon as others have with victims getting wise to it. Getting feathers plucked in this game isn't a turn-off. It's an opportunity to join the pluckers by speeding up one's turnover at the expense of the slowpokes. Like pyramid sales this it is a self-generating market. This game, at least, isn't unethical, other than clogging the internet with reckless traffic. I've been asking myself why it seems so difficult to backtrace such obtrusive, if not criminal, traffic to the source and squash it there. Perhaps some knowledgeable volunteer would share his insights. Perhaps stalking con artists could be another interest group. Frederic -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: >"Aahz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages >>"from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header >>analysis proves they didn't send it). >>-- >> >> > >not like that - just the normal crud from people giving me get rich quick tips >on the stock market that is aimed at mobilising my money to follow theirs to >help influence the price of a share... > >- Hendrik > > > > I'm ALWAYS getting python spam but what worries me, is the spammers Know my personal home address, and I NEVER EVER fill out any forms pages with my personal info - I think I'm being harrassed by hackers or something... John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
At Monday 4/12/2006 16:27, John Draper wrote: I'm ALWAYS getting python spam but what worries me, is the spammers Know my personal home address, and I NEVER EVER fill out any forms pages with my personal info - I think I'm being harrassed by hackers or something... - UserA creates an account on SiteA. They ask for an email address for validation purposes, or perhaps they use that email address as login name, which is fine so one doesn't have to remember another login. So, UserA fills in his Hotmail/Yahoo/whatever email. - UserA provides the *same* password on the site as used on his email address. Which is fine so one doesn't have to remember many passwords. - Now, SiteA has full access to UserA's address book (and inbox, and... but usually they're not interested on that). Notice that SiteA actually is not "hacking" UserA Hotmail account, nor is a virus involved, nothing is installed on UserA's PC, there is no vulnerability exploited on Hotmail's code, no antivirus/antispyware will help, nothing. It's just UserA silly enough to let others know his webmail password. So if a friend of yours has played the role of UserA above, that's how some spammers got your email address. -- Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python spam?
"Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 8<-- So if a friend of yours has played the role of UserA above, that's how some spammers got your email address. + 1 for euphemism of the month... - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
{SPAM} Remote debugging
Hi, For developing Python 2.3 applications I use Boa Constructor for debugging the application. This is working fine but now I want to debug an application on a remote PC (win 2003 server) installed as a NT Service. I know it is possible with Boa Constructor and HAP debugger but it doesnt work with both debuggers. With the HAP debugger it is possible to connect to the remote pc but it doesnt stop at the breakpoints The Boa Constructor doesnt work at all, when I go to Tools->Attach to debugger and press Ok I get the error message error: (10061, Connection refused) I followed the steps in Boa Debugger help and every thing I found on google: Add the debugger to Zope. Ive installed the source code on the same place at the server and at the client pc (D:\project\) Does anybody know how to do this? Kind regards, Gijs Korremans R&D Department Global Supply Chain Services (pty) Ltd. P.O. Box 1263 Rivonia 2128 South Africa Tel: +27 (0)11 802 1329 Fax: +27 (0)11 802 6528 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Network Sentry, and is believed to be clean. http://www.networksentry.co.za -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam avoidance
Doug> I've noticed that there is little to no spam in comp.lang.python Doug> and am wondering how this is accomplished. Most mailing lists which originate on mail.python.org have SpamBayes filtering in front of them. The one notable exception are the two SpamBayes-related mailing lists. Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
