Senior Python Applications Developer/Leader. Michigan contract @$90/hr. Skills: Agile, Java, PHP, HTML5, CSS3, JavaScript, jQuery, Amazon Web Services (AWS)
Senior Python Applications Developer/Leader. Key Skills: Agile, Java, PHP, HTML5, CSS3, JavaScript, jQuery, Amazon Web Services (AWS) Direct client. H1B is OK. Ann Arbor, Michigan. Initial six month contract, probably good through the end of 2015. We can pay up to $90/hr. possibly higher for the right candidate. Skills, Experience, and Characteristics » Proven experience in Object Oriented programming using Java, Python or PHP (at least one year of Python experience is required). » Experience using MVC frameworks like Spring, Django or Zend. » Experience using profiling tools to analyze and optimize application performance like App Dynamics and New Relic. » Familiarity with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript including common libraries like jQuery, Foundation, and Backbone. » Familiarity with web technology stack (e.g. HTTP, cookies, headers, caching, CDN, and security). » Willingness and ability to learn new approaches and emerging technology. » Strong communication and interpersonal skills. The Role This Software Developer position is for our development team to implement critical reporting capabilities. You will be designing, developing and maintaining applications and APIs that are deployed on our cloud delivered platform. You will be a crucial part of a dynamic, energized and agile team delivering leading edge reporting solutions. Our organization and this role will provide you with an opportunity few other companies can offer including: » Leveraging technologies including: AWS, Java, Python, and HDFS. » Agile teams that follow continuous deployment and test automation best practices allowing for rapid application development and frequent deployments. We complete an average of 80 production deployments each week. » Developers are using the same architecture, technologies and tools as companies like Netflix, Etsy, and Amazon.com. » This is a unique opportunity to be on the leading edge of building large-scale, cloud delivered web applications that host hundreds of millions of sessions annually. When joining the development team, you can expect to receive tool and product training. We have an excellent on-boarding program, which enables new engineers to become productive very quickly. A lead will work closely with you as you begin engaging your assigned agile team. We will provide you with constant support as we work to make you comfortable in your new environment. Those in leadership roles will work tirelessly to set you up for success. Leigh Haugen Managing Partner KDMM / eTek le...@kdmmcorp.com (248) 719-0789 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
WSME -- Web Services Made Easy -- 0.6.4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 WSME -- Web Services Made Easy -- 0.6.4 Web Service Made Easy (WSME) simplify the writing of REST web services by providing simple yet powerful typing which removes the need to directly manipulate the request and the response objects. WSME can work standalone or on top of your favorite python web (micro)framework, so you can use both your preferred way of routing your REST requests and most of the features of WSME that rely on the typing system like: * Alternate protocols, including ones supporting batch-calls * Easy documentation through a [1]Sphinx extension What's New In This Release? 0.6.4 (2014-11-20) -- - Include tests in the source distribution 0.6.3 (2014-11-19) -- - Disable universal wheels 0.6.2 (2014-11-18) -- * Flask adapter complex types now supports flask.ext.restful * Allow disabling complex types auto-register * Documentation edits * Various documentation build fixes * Fix passing Dict and Array based UserType as params Documentation [2]Documentation for WSME is hosted on [3]readthedocs.org References 1. http://sphinx-doc.org/ 2. http://http://wsme.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ 3. http://readthedocs.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUedbWAAoJEFATnylB+5mRtl0H/AkUQAUcz58uAt+LIJbIFsnK vZTjnCPm4/pAtEMLZw/8ZOlYdpBRvKFJEMoFRwJ0lDvvsDP1cK+VjQsZbncnliDI 0W3rDaHqFpCk12RHzaglOLP8VR7BzLVAqfqY2BtVBJ1yaThBxQw0xHXVy/ZX/xaW n84JaScfVMaS06Baa7iaTZc0ED5v1Hf2iCv3xD5jpswvVp9Rx1c65SLwZjm3XqFn nDBumn1W04Pwzp5mqW31ZOKKVzD4HDgB8CJS7Bql3Tahq36pvHMW3Axwlk3nVNEr 1mh3gsQFGxB/bkR//HApuuT7wQDzB8p8waL1DBiugVTxL9nGKcqh6xlsySnPn1c= =vns4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Web services from python
What is the best package to use with python 2.6 to access Web services. Is it ZSI? Can anyone recommend a good tutorial, preferably with a sandbox web service? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SOAP web services using python. Would like to change the Envelope Document using MessagePlugin before sending it using suds
sarat.devin...@gmail.com writes: My current SOAP request sent via suds.client looks like this: SOAP-ENV:Envelope (some name space URIs) SOAP-ENV:Header / SOAP-ENV:Body ns5:saveModule request xsi:type=ns3:SaveModule Module xsi:type=ns4:Module ModuleName xsi:type=ns1:stringTest/ModuleName /Module /request /ns5:saveModule /SOAP-ENV:Body /SOAP-ENV:Envelope This request fails on my server. If i take the same XML request and massage it and send it visa SOAPUI, it works fine. What I did was soapenv:Envelope (some name space URIs) soapenv:Header / soapenv:Body saveModule request Module ModuleNameTest/ModuleName /Module /request /saveModule /soapenv:Body /soapenv:Envelope As you see, I had to change SOAP-ENV to soapenv, modify node ns5:saveModule to saveModule and also remove attributes such xsi:type to other child nodes Looks as if you had a bad WSDL description of your service and a server which fails to honor elementary standard elements (of the XML-namespace standard, in particular). The XML-namespace standard dictates that the concrete namespace prefixes are (apart from some xml prefixes) insignificant; namespace prefixes are use only to refer to namespace uris and only these uris are relevant. Thus, a standard conform XML-namespace application should world with whatever prefix is used as long as they refer to the correct namespace uri. According to the standard, xsi:type is used when the underlying schema (in your WSDL) does not statically determine the type. In this case, missing type information is provided by xsi:type. A standard conform application should not have problems with xsi:type attributes. Alternatively, the schema (in the WSDL) can assign types and suds will not generate xsi:type attribute (at least not in simple cases). How can I , modify the request in above manner using suds.client. Documentation suggests to use a plugin with Client using marshalled method. But I was unsuccessful I cannot answer you concrete question. However, when you are working with a component that does not honor standards (this seems to be the case for your server component), it may not be possible to use (other) components developed against those standards. In your particular case, it might be necessary to generate the SOAP messages yourself - in the peculiar way, your server expects them - rather than use suds. By the way: when I remember right, then suds supports some control over the namespace prefixes used. Apparently, servers not honoring the XML-namespace standard are not so rare. Fortunately, I never needed this feature but I think I have read something about it in the suds documentation. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
SOAP web services using python. Would like to change the Envelope Document using MessagePlugin before sending it using suds
Hi , My current SOAP request sent via suds.client looks like this: SOAP-ENV:Envelope (some name space URIs) SOAP-ENV:Header / SOAP-ENV:Body ns5:saveModule request xsi:type=ns3:SaveModule Module xsi:type=ns4:Module ModuleName xsi:type=ns1:stringTest/ModuleName /Module /request /ns5:saveModule /SOAP-ENV:Body /SOAP-ENV:Envelope This request fails on my server. If i take the same XML request and massage it and send it visa SOAPUI, it works fine. What I did was soapenv:Envelope (some name space URIs) soapenv:Header / soapenv:Body saveModule request Module ModuleNameTest/ModuleName /Module /request /saveModule /soapenv:Body /soapenv:Envelope As you see, I had to change SOAP-ENV to soapenv, modify node ns5:saveModule to saveModule and also remove attributes such xsi:type to other child nodes How can I , modify the request in above manner using suds.client. Documentation suggests to use a plugin with Client using marshalled method. But I was unsuccessful Any help is greatly appreciated Regards, SD -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On 4/19/11 3:48 AM, Lamont Nelson wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? To take advantage of the cores on your server you'll want to consider a multi-process design instead of multi-threading. You can achieve this with something like http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/, which will allow you to manage the processes. I've used this behind apache successfully. 2. Are there good web services frameworks available for building a REST based service? I admit I have looked at web2py, Django, pyramid/pylons, and a few others. SOAP seems to be pretty well supported but I'm not finding the same for quick development of REST based services for exchanging JSON or XML formatted data. This is probably just my n00b status, but what tools are best for building a simple REST data exchange API? I've personally used Pyramid to implement REST web services with multiple data transport formats (json, xml) for the same endpoints with minimal fuss. It's basically as simple as returning an object from your view and defining a renderer that knows how to translate this object to the desired format. Look at http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/1.0/narr/renderers.html#views-which-use-a-renderer and http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/1.0/narr/viewconfig.html#view-config-chapter for more information. Lamont Thanks to everyone who has replied. I have a better understanding of the limitations around the GIL as well as the relatively architectures for avoiding the issue. Now to find the right framework for a simple web service. So far I've heard pyramid the most, but others we are looking into include rest.ish.io, web2py, and flask. Anyone with experience across these as to what is best for someone starting from scratch now? Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? To take advantage of the cores on your server you'll want to consider a multi-process design instead of multi-threading. You can achieve this with something like http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/, which will allow you to manage the processes. I've used this behind apache successfully. 2. Are there good web services frameworks available for building a REST based service? I admit I have looked at web2py, Django, pyramid/pylons, and a few others. SOAP seems to be pretty well supported but I'm not finding the same for quick development of REST based services for exchanging JSON or XML formatted data. This is probably just my n00b status, but what tools are best for building a simple REST data exchange API? I've personally used Pyramid to implement REST web services with multiple data transport formats (json, xml) for the same endpoints with minimal fuss. It's basically as simple as returning an object from your view and defining a renderer that knows how to translate this object to the desired format. Look at http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/1.0/narr/renderers.html#views-which-use-a-renderer and http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/1.0/narr/viewconfig.html#view-config-chapter for more information. Lamont -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
Today I just happened to watch this session from PyCon 2011 on gevent and gunicorn: http://blip.tv/file/4883016 gevent uses greenlet, fwiw. I found it informative, but then I find most things informative. s H -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Apr 15, 6:33 pm, Chris H chris.humph...@windsorcircle.com wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? First, if you are stupid enough to to compute-bound work in Python, without using a library, you have worse problems than the GIL. How incompetent would you need to be to write multi-threaded matrix multiplication or FFTs in pure Python, and blame the GIL for lack for performance? Second, if you think advantage of all the CPU cores available will make difference for an I/O bound webservice, you're living in cloud cookoo land. How on earth will multiple CPU cores give you or your clients a faster network connection? The network connection is likely to saturate long before you're burning the CPU. Sturla -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Apr 16, 4:59 am, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: My experience is that if you are CPU bound, asynchronous programming in python can be more a curse than a blessing, mostly because the need to insert scheduling points at the right points to avoid blocking and because profiling becomes that much harder in something like twisted. I think Raymond's argument was that multi-threaded server design does not scale well in any language. There is a reason that Windows I/O completion ports use a pool of worker threads, and not one thread per asynchronous I/O request. A multi-threaded design for a webservice will hit the wall from inscalability long before CPU saturation becomes an issue. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Apr 17, 12:10 am, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: Many GUI toolkits are single-threaded. And in fact with GTK and MFC you can't (or shouldn't) call GUI calls from a thread other than the main GUI thread. Most of them (if not all?) have a single GUI thread, and a mechanism by which to synchronize with the GUI thread. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On 15/04/2011 20:17, Dan Stromberg wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Chris H chris.humph...@windsorcircle.com wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? Concurrency in Python is a largish topic. It's true that CPython's multithreading is poor. In fact, running a multithreaded CPython application on n vs 2n cores can actually take more time on the 2n cores. However: 1) In Jython, and likely IronPython, threading is good. The load times of Iron Python are ssslllow! (My tests showed startup times 4 to 6 times that of cpython on the same kit). 3) There's something called stackless and (similar to stackless) greenlets. While stackless allows you to use thousands of threads comfortably, it's still pretty single-core. It's essentially a fork of CPython, and is being made a part of PyPy. I believe greenlets are an attempt to bring what's good about stackless to CPython, in the form of a C extension module. Greenlets are green threads - cooperative switching all in one system thread and therefore one core. Very lightweight. 4) I've heard that in CPython 3.2, the GIL is less troublesome, though I've not yet heard in what way. Multiple threads still cannot run at the same time, however, if one thread runs too long without a context switch, it relinquishes control and forces another thread to run. This stops a low priority thread on one core, locking out a high-priority thread on another. That this was happening is why 2 cores can be slower than one. (The overhead of starting the second thread, finding it can't get the GIL and closing down again). 5) Even in CPython, I/O-bound processes are not slowed significantly by the GIL. It's really CPU-bound processes that are. Its ONLY when you have two or more CPU bound threads that you may have issues. Regards Ian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Apr 15, 6:33 pm, Chris H chris.humph...@windsorcircle.com wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? By the way: The main issue with the GIL is all the FUD written by people who don't properly understand the issue. It's not easy to discern the real information from the unqualified FUD. I whish people who think in Java would just shut up about things they don't understand. The problem is they think they understand more than they do. Also, people that write multi-threaded programs which fails to scale from false-sharing issues, really should not pollute the web with FUD about Python's GIL. Java's free threading model is not better when all you use it for is to create dirty cache lines that must be reloaded everywhere. Sturla -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Apr 17, 5:15 pm, Ian hobso...@gmail.com wrote: 5) Even in CPython, I/O-bound processes are not slowed significantly by the GIL. It's really CPU-bound processes that are. Its ONLY when you have two or more CPU bound threads that you may have issues. And when you have a CPU bound thread, it's time to find the offending bottleneck and analyse the issue. Often it will be a bad choise of algorithm, for example one that is O(N**2) instead of O(N log N). If that is the case, it is time to recode. If algoritmic complexity is not the problem, it is time to remember that Python gives us a 200x speed penalty over C. Moving the offending code to a C library might give a sufficent speed boost. If even that does not help, we could pick a library that uses multi-threading internally, or we could release the GIL and use multiple threads from Python. And if the library is not thread-safe, it is time to use multiprocessing. Sturla -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
In article e6008cc8-50f0-4d78-be78-ec6e73b97...@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote: Threading is really only an answer if you need to share data between threads, if you only have limited scaling needs, and are I/O bound rather than CPU bound Threads are also useful for user interaction (i.e. GUI apps). I think that limited scaling needs to be defined, too; CherryPy performs pretty well, and the blocking model does simplify development. One problem that my company has run into with threading is that it's not always obvious where you'll hit GIL blocks. For example, one would think that pickle.loads() releases the GIL, but it doesn't; you need to use pickle.load() (and cStringIO if you want to do it in memory). -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ At Resolver we've found it useful to short-circuit any doubt and just refer to comments in code as 'lies'. :-) --Michael Foord paraphrases Christian Muirhead on python-dev, 2009-03-22 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: In article e6008cc8-50f0-4d78-be78-ec6e73b97...@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote: Threading is really only an answer if you need to share data between threads, if you only have limited scaling needs, and are I/O bound rather than CPU bound Threads are also useful for user interaction (i.e. GUI apps). I agree; user interaction is effectively I/O on, usually, some sort of event queue that collects from a variety of sources; with the specialty that, in some GUI environments, the process's first thread is somehow special. But ultimately it's still a worker thread / interaction thread model, which is quite a good one. The interaction thread spends most of its time waiting for the user, maybe waiting for STDIN, maybe waiting for a GUI event, maybe waiting on some I/O device (TCP socket comes to mind). Chris Angelico -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Apr 16, 10:44 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: In article e6008cc8-50f0-4d78-be78-ec6e73b97...@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote: Threading is really only an answer if you need to share data between threads, if you only have limited scaling needs, and are I/O bound rather than CPU bound Threads are also useful for user interaction (i.e. GUI apps). I suppose that's why most GUI toolkits use a multithreaded model. Jean-Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On 04/16/2011 02:53 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: On Apr 16, 10:44 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: In article e6008cc8-50f0-4d78-be78-ec6e73b97...@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote: Threading is really only an answer if you need to share data between threads, if you only have limited scaling needs, and are I/O bound rather than CPU bound Threads are also useful for user interaction (i.e. GUI apps). I suppose that's why most GUI toolkits use a multithreaded model. Many GUI toolkits are single-threaded. And in fact with GTK and MFC you can't (or shouldn't) call GUI calls from a thread other than the main GUI thread. That's not to say GUI programs don't use threads and put the GUI it its own thread. But GUI toolkits are often *not* multithreaded. They are, however, often asynchronous, which is often more cost-effective than multi-threaded. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
So I'm in a startup where we are considering using python as our primary development language for all the wonderful reasons you would expect. However, I've had a couple of things come up from mentors and other developers that is causing me to rethink whether python is the right choice. I hope this is the right list for this type of discussion (please forgive me if not and point me in the right direction). We are looking to build an e-commerce integration product so the majority of our work will be linking external SOAP and REST based web service API's to our own REST based API and backend database.I have had the following comments/questions come to me: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? 2. Are there good web services frameworks available for building a REST based service? I admit I have looked at web2py, Django, pyramid/pylons, and a few others. SOAP seems to be pretty well supported but I'm not finding the same for quick development of REST based services for exchanging JSON or XML formatted data. This is probably just my n00b status, but what tools are best for building a simple REST data exchange API? Thanks, Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On 4/15/11 1:03 PM, Tim Wintle wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 12:33 -0400, Chris H wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? Is the limiting factor CPU? If it isn't (i.e. you're blocking on IO to/from a web service) then the GIL won't get in your way. If it is, then run as many parallel *processes* as you have cores/CPUs (assuming you're designing an application that can have multiple instances running in parallel so that you can run over multiple servers anyway). Tim Wintle Great question. At this point, there isn't a limiting factor, but yes the concern is around CPU in the future with lots of threads handling many simultaneous transactions. Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 12:33 -0400, Chris H wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? Is the limiting factor CPU? If it isn't (i.e. you're blocking on IO to/from a web service) then the GIL won't get in your way. If it is, then run as many parallel *processes* as you have cores/CPUs (assuming you're designing an application that can have multiple instances running in parallel so that you can run over multiple servers anyway). Tim Wintle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Chris H chris.humph...@windsorcircle.com wrote: 1. Are you sure you want to use python because threading is not good due to the Global Lock (GIL)? Is this really an issue for multi-threaded web services as seems to be indicated by the articles from a Google search? If not, how do you avoid this issue in a multi-threaded process to take advantage of all the CPU cores available? Concurrency in Python is a largish topic. It's true that CPython's multithreading is poor. In fact, running a multithreaded CPython application on n vs 2n cores can actually take more time on the 2n cores. However: 1) In Jython, and likely IronPython, threading is good. 2) In CPython, there's a module called multiprocessing that's a little slower than a good threading implementation, but gives looser coupling between the discrete components of your software. Programming with multiprocessing feels similar to programming with threads - you have safe queues, safe scalars or simple arrays in shared memory, etc. 3) There's something called stackless and (similar to stackless) greenlets. While stackless allows you to use thousands of threads comfortably, it's still pretty single-core. It's essentially a fork of CPython, and is being made a part of PyPy. I believe greenlets are an attempt to bring what's good about stackless to CPython, in the form of a C extension module. 4) I've heard that in CPython 3.2, the GIL is less troublesome, though I've not yet heard in what way. 5) Even in CPython, I/O-bound processes are not slowed significantly by the GIL. It's really CPU-bound processes that are. 6) PyPy is quite a bit faster than CPython for non-concurrent applications, but also has a GIL. 7) Cython, which compiles a dialect of Python into faster C (especially if you give it a few type declarations), has GIL-implications. I've heard that Cython can selectively release the GIL on request, but I've also heard that C extension modules always release the GIL. This seems contradictory, and merits further investigation. It's important to remember: Python != CPython. CPython remains the reference implementation, and runs the most Python code, but there are other, significant implementations now. This page looks like a summary of many (more) options: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Concurrency/ 2. Are there good web services frameworks available for building a REST based service? I admit I have looked at web2py, Django, pyramid/pylons, and a few others. SOAP seems to be pretty well supported but I'm not finding the same for quick development of REST based services for exchanging JSON or XML formatted data. This is probably just my n00b status, but what tools are best for building a simple REST data exchange API? I have no experience with REST, but Grig of SoCal Piggies did a presentation on restish a while back. You might see if you can find something about that. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
Is the limiting factor CPU? If it isn't (i.e. you're blocking on IO to/from a web service) then the GIL won't get in your way. If it is, then run as many parallel *processes* as you have cores/CPUs (assuming you're designing an application that can have multiple instances running in parallel so that you can run over multiple servers anyway). Great question. At this point, there isn't a limiting factor, but yes the concern is around CPU in the future with lots of threads handling many simultaneous transactions. In the Python world, the usual solution to high transaction loads is to use event-driven processing (using an async library such as Twisted) rather than using multi-threading which doesn't scale well in any language. Also, the usual way to take advantage of multiple-cores is to run multiple pythons in separate processes. Threading is really only an answer if you need to share data between threads, if you only have limited scaling needs, and are I/O bound rather than CPU bound Raymond -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Questions about GIL and web services from a n00b
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote: Is the limiting factor CPU? If it isn't (i.e. you're blocking on IO to/from a web service) then the GIL won't get in your way. If it is, then run as many parallel *processes* as you have cores/CPUs (assuming you're designing an application that can have multiple instances running in parallel so that you can run over multiple servers anyway). Great question. At this point, there isn't a limiting factor, but yes the concern is around CPU in the future with lots of threads handling many simultaneous transactions. In the Python world, the usual solution to high transaction loads is to use event-driven processing (using an async library such as Twisted) rather than using multi-threading which doesn't scale well in any language. My experience is that if you are CPU bound, asynchronous programming in python can be more a curse than a blessing, mostly because the need to insert scheduling points at the right points to avoid blocking and because profiling becomes that much harder in something like twisted. It depends of course of the application, but designing from the ground up with the idea of running multiple processes is what seems to be the most natural way of scaling - this does not prevent using async in each process. This has its own issues, though (e.g. in terms of administration and monitoring). Chris, the tornado documention mentions a simple way to get multiple processes on one box: http://www.tornadoweb.org/documentation (section mentiong nginx for load balancing). The principle is quite common and is applicable to most frameworks (the solution is not specific to tornado). cheers. David -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to make a web services in python ???
Soap web services I think. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Hidura hid...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of web-service you have in mind 2010/9/17, Ariel isaacr...@gmail.com: Hi everybody, I need some help to find documentation about how to implements web services in python, could you help me please ??? Regards Thanks in advance Ariel -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil Diego I. Hidalgo D. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to make a web services in python ???
On 20 September 2010 16:09, Ariel isaacr...@gmail.com wrote: Soap web services I think. I think the cool kids would be using https://fedorahosted.org/suds/, but for the fact that the cool kids all build REST (http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596805838) rather than SOAP these days. -- Cheers, Simon B. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to make a web services in python ???
On 20/09/2010 16:09, Ariel wrote: Soap web services I think. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Hidura hid...@gmail.com mailto:hid...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of web-service you have in mind 2010/9/17, Ariel isaacr...@gmail.com mailto:isaacr...@gmail.com: Hi everybody, I need some help to find documentation about how to implements web services in python, could you help me please ??? Regards Thanks in advance Ariel Hi Ariel, There are a few pages on creating a TCP server and a Threaded server in Chapters 18 and 19 of Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt by Mark Summerfield. It shows you how to handle sockets, threading , and the locking of shared data constructs. Regards Ian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How to make a web services in python ???
Hi everybody, I need some help to find documentation about how to implements web services in python, could you help me please ??? Regards Thanks in advance Ariel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to make a web services in python ???
What kind of web-service you have in mind 2010/9/17, Ariel isaacr...@gmail.com: Hi everybody, I need some help to find documentation about how to implements web services in python, could you help me please ??? Regards Thanks in advance Ariel -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil Diego I. Hidalgo D. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
In 4a92ee38$0$1627$742ec...@news.sonic.net John Nagle na...@animats.com writes: John Gordon wrote: I'm developing a program that will use web services, which I have never used before. Web services in general, or some Microsoft interface? Microsoft. Exchange Web Services, specifically. -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
Diez B. Roggisch de...@nospam.web.de (DBR) wrote: DBR John Gordon schrieb: I'm developing a program that will use web services, which I have never used before. There are several tutorials out there that advise you to get the WSDL and then call a method (such as wsdl2py) that inspects the wsdl and automagically generates the python classes and methods you need for interacting with that web service. I've tried this, and have run into a number of roadblocks that have left me frustrated. DBR Welcome to the wonderful world of SOAP. If you didn't know - the S stands DBR for simple [1]. Stood. Like the O was supposed to stand for Object. Now out of shame they tend to talk more about `Service Oriented Architecture Protocol'. Whichever is a greater abomination you may choose (that almost sounds like Yoda-speak). -- Piet van Oostrum p...@cs.uu.nl URL: http://pietvanoostrum.com [PGP 8DAE142BE17999C4] Private email: p...@vanoostrum.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
In 4a936e84$0$31337$9b4e6...@newsspool4.arcor-online.net Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de writes: I tried WSDL.Proxy() from the SOAPpy package and eventually end up with this error: xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 6 Is that while parsing the WSDL file? Have you tried pushing it through an XML parser yourself (or opening it with an XML editor) to see if it really is XML? The 'invalid token' error happens if the argument to WSDL.Proxy() is a string containing a URL beginning with https. (It doesn't happen with a http URL, but I'm stuck with https.) As a next step, I grabbed the content from the https url in a browser, saved it to a file, inserted it into the python code as a large string, and passed that string to WSDL.Proxy(). That produced a KeyError 'targetNamespace' from this snippet of XML: xs:schema xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xs:import namespace=http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages; schemaLocation=messages.xsd/ /xs:schema I looked at the code and it apparently requires that the parent tag of xs:import have a targetNamespace attribute. So I made one up and added it, like so: xs:schema xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; targetNamespace=xyz I have no idea if this was the right thing to do, but it did let me advance to the next error: Traceback (most recent call last): File soappytest.py, line 1020, in ? server = jrgWSDL.Proxy(wsdlFile) File /home/gordonj/wsdl/jrgSOAPpy/jrgWSDL.py, line 75, in __init__ service = self.wsdl.services[0] File /home/gordonj/wsdl/jrgwstools/Utility.py, line 631, in __getitem__ return self.list[key] IndexError: list index out of range After poking around in the code a bit more, I think that self.wsdl.services is supposed to be a collection of all the services offered by the wsdl, but it's actually empty, which is why it throws an error when it tries to access the first element. So that's where I'm stuck at the moment. I have no idea why self.wsdl.services isn't getting populated correctly -- or even if that's the real problem! Any suggestions? -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
John Gordon wrote: Any suggestions? Well, yes, see the link I posted. http://effbot.org/zone/element-soap.htm That might actually be the easiest way to get your stuff done, and it avoids external dependencies (well, except for ElementTree, if you continue to use Python = 2.4). Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Web Services examples using raw xml?
I'm developing a program that will use web services, which I have never used before. There are several tutorials out there that advise you to get the WSDL and then call a method (such as wsdl2py) that inspects the wsdl and automagically generates the python classes and methods you need for interacting with that web service. I've tried this, and have run into a number of roadblocks that have left me frustrated. For example I tried wsdl2py() from the ZSI package, and got this error: Error loading services.xml: namespace of schema and import match I tried WSDL.Proxy() from the SOAPpy package and eventually end up with this error: xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 6 I tried Client() from the suds package, and got this error: File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/suds/client.py, line 59 @classmethod ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax I'm not an expert; I have no idea what any of these errors mean, and I have no idea how to go about resolving them. So I decided to take a step back and see if I could bypass all the fancy automagic methods and just create my own SOAP xml message from scratch and then send it to the web server. That would work, surely. But I'm having a tough time finding some good examples of that, because all the tutorials I've found just tell you to use the aforementioned magic methods, which unfortunately don;t seem to be working for me. Does anyone have some good examples of code that builds a raw xml SOAP message and sends it to a webserver, then reads the response? I think that would be a good place for me to start. Thanks for any replies. -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
John Gordon wrote: I'm developing a program that will use web services, which I have never used before. Web services in general, or some Microsoft interface? John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
John Gordon schrieb: I'm developing a program that will use web services, which I have never used before. There are several tutorials out there that advise you to get the WSDL and then call a method (such as wsdl2py) that inspects the wsdl and automagically generates the python classes and methods you need for interacting with that web service. I've tried this, and have run into a number of roadblocks that have left me frustrated. Welcome to the wonderful world of SOAP. If you didn't know - the S stands for simple [1]. I don't want to go into a rant about the why and how SOAP sucks, and why it's support in Python is lacking - to say the least. What we did in a similar situation was this: - got hold of a client that was able to speak with the server. In your case, a .NET-client shouldn't be hard to get working. - monitor the traffic that went on between the client and server using some HTTP-proxy or WireShark. - mimicked the server-side protocol by dynamising the sniffed traffic through an XML-templating tool, genshi in our case. Sounds archaic, and complicated? Yes. Blame SOAP (and Microsoft, it's biggest proponent) Diez [1] http://72.249.21.88/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
On Aug 25, 5:41 am, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote: File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/suds/client.py, line 59 @classmethod ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax If memory serves me correctly, decorators were introduced in python2.4. That would account for your SyntaxError. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Services examples using raw xml?
John Gordon wrote: I'm developing a program that will use web services, which I have never used before. There are several tutorials out there that advise you to get the WSDL and then call a method (such as wsdl2py) that inspects the wsdl and automagically generates the python classes and methods you need for interacting with that web service. There are a number of tools that help in building WS clients. One is soaplib. It's pretty easy to use and was recently ported (V0.8) to the lxml XML library. I actually still use a 0.7.x, also fixed to work with Py2.3. It doesn't do any code generation. Instead, you have to write up a short code snippet that describes the WS interface. Works pretty well. I tried WSDL.Proxy() from the SOAPpy package and eventually end up with this error: xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 6 Is that while parsing the WSDL file? Have you tried pushing it through an XML parser yourself (or opening it with an XML editor) to see if it really is XML? Or does this happen while communicating with the remote side? (in which case I'd trap the wire and look at the transferred XML messages) I tried Client() from the suds package, and got this error: File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/suds/client.py, line 59 @classmethod ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax That's a Py2.4-ism. You can make the code backwards compatible by replacing all @classmethod def some_function(): ... lines with def some_function(): ... some_function = classmethod(some_function) That's how I fixed up soaplib, BTW. So I decided to take a step back and see if I could bypass all the fancy automagic methods and just create my own SOAP xml message from scratch and then send it to the web server. That would work, surely. Yes, that's a good way also. And it avoids an additional dependency on a convoluted SOAP library. But I'm having a tough time finding some good examples of that, because all the tutorials I've found just tell you to use the aforementioned magic methods, which unfortunately don;t seem to be working for me. http://effbot.org/zone/element-soap.htm Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Interface to Exchange Calendar via web services
I have a python app that needs to look up a person's Exchage Calendar entries to see if they are currently available. Does anyone have any code examples for communicating with EWS (Exchange Web Services)? I've found some code in Java and CSharp to do this, but none in python so far. Thanks! -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Web services
I am trying to learn about web services and how to interface with a 3rd party web service from python. Can anyone point me at an idiots guide/tutorial for someone who is new to web services? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web services
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM, loial jldunn2...@googlemail.com wrote: I am trying to learn about web services and how to interface with a 3rd party web service from python. Can anyone point me at an idiots guide/tutorial for someone who is new to web services? The XML-RPC client module in the std lib (xmlrpclib) includes an example: http://docs.python.org/library/xmlrpclib.html#example-of-client-usage And the XML-RPC server server in the stdlib also includes a full client-server example: http://docs.python.org/library/simplexmlrpcserver.html#simplexmlrpcserver-example Cheers, Chris -- Follow the path of the Iguana... http://rebertia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
web services ssl client
Hi, should I build a client for web services that require authentication based on a ca (pem and crt), I'm trying to use soappy but not work... someone have any idea or can tell me where to find a tutorial? tnx a lot! Luca -- skype:luca.tebaldi bookmark: http://del.icio.us/lucatebaldi foto: http://www.flickr.com/photos/teba/tags/ linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/lucatebaldi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
High speed web services
Hello! I'm wondering: I'm really not so much into heavy frameworks like Django, because I need to build a fast, simple python based webservice. That is, a request comes in at a certain URL, and I want to utilize Python to respond to that request. Ideally, I want the script to be cached so it doesn't have to be re- parsed everytime. Phrasing this into a question: How do I built highly available and lighting fast Python webservice? I'm open to using any kind of server software, and all that under a *nix based system. thanks, Herb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: High speed web services
herbasher wrote: I'm wondering: I'm really not so much into heavy frameworks like Django, because I need to build a fast, simple python based webservice. That is, a request comes in at a certain URL, and I want to utilize Python to respond to that request. Ideally, I want the script to be cached so it doesn't have to be re- parsed everytime. Phrasing this into a question: How do I built highly available and lighting fast Python webservice? I'm open to using any kind of server software, and all that under a *nix based system. Well, you could simply use FastCGI/SCGI/mod_python/mod_wsgi without any framework on top of it. It's not much harder than writing a CGI script. If you're doing something with multiple actual web pages or something, just use a framework. It'll be fast enough. -- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: High speed web services
herbasher pisze: How do I built highly available and lighting fast Python webservice? Write optimized code and use it in conjunction with twisted.web. -- Jarek Zgoda http://zgodowie.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: High speed web services
Il Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:07:49 -0800, herbasher ha scritto: Hello! I'm wondering: I'm really not so much into heavy frameworks like Django, because I need to build a fast, simple python based webservice. That is, a request comes in at a certain URL, and I want to utilize Python to respond to that request. Ideally, I want the script to be cached so it doesn't have to be re- parsed everytime. Phrasing this into a question: How do I built highly available and lighting fast Python webservice? I'm open to using any kind of server software, and all that under a *nix based system. I'm developing a mod_wsgi module for Nginx (http://www.nginx.net). Nginx is a very fast asynchronous and multiprocess web server. The development is still in alpha status: http://hg.mperillo.ath.cx/nginx/mod_wsgi/ If your application is not I/O bound mod_wsgi for nginx can be a good solution, otherwise you should look for mod_wsgi for Apache. Manlio Perillo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
On 2007-03-22, Jaroslaw Zabiello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to connect to web services (written in C#/.NET) with latest ZSI 2.0rc3 library. It just does not work. from ZSI.ServiceProxy import ServiceProxy wsdl = 'http://192.168.0.103/NewWebServices/TemplateInsert.asmx?wsdl' print ServiceProxy(wsdl, tracefile=sys.stdout) C:\opt\Python25\lib\site-packages\zsi-2.0_rc3-py2.5.egg\ZSI\wstools\WSDLTools.py, line 1116, in getAddressBinding WSDLError: No address binding found in port. This pythonic library must be stupid, because I have no problem to connect with... Ruby: Actually, it's likely just more tolerant of an error in your WSDL (leaving out your address binding). Many of the WSDL toolkits ignore leaving out the address binding in the port type. The java tooling seems to work that way and apparently ruby is the same way. Try fixing your WSDL, then try again. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
Dnia Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:06:28 + (UTC), David E. Konerding DSD staff napisał(a): Try fixing your WSDL, then try again. The problem is I see no errors in my WSDL. Pythonic implementation of SOAP is just crapy. -- Jaroslaw Zabiello http://blog.zabiello.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
On Mar 26, 3:47 pm, Jaroslaw Zabiello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:06:28 + (UTC), David E. Konerding DSD staff napisa³(a): Try fixing your WSDL, then try again. The problem is I see no errors in my WSDL. Pythonic implementation of SOAP is just crapy. -- Jaroslaw Zabiellohttp://blog.zabiello.com As Lawrence suggested, did you try soaplib? It is a newer project. Try the more recent svn version svn co https://svn.optio.webfactional.com/soaplib/trunk soaplib In my experience, it is more compliant than ZSI, although I mainly used it as a server than a client. Ravi Teja. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
I try to connect to web services (written in C#/.NET) with latest ZSI
2.0rc3 library. It just does not work.
from ZSI.ServiceProxy import ServiceProxy
wsdl = 'http://192.168.0.103/NewWebServices/TemplateInsert.asmx?wsdl'
print ServiceProxy(wsdl, tracefile=sys.stdout)
C:\opt\Python25\lib\site-packages\zsi-2.0_rc3-py2.5.egg\ZSI\wstools\WSDLTools.py,
line 1116, in getAddressBinding
WSDLError: No address binding found in port.
This pythonic library must be stupid, because I have no problem to connect
with... Ruby:
require 'soap/wsdlDriver'
require 'rexml/document'
wsdl = 'http://192.168.0.103/NewWebServices/TemplateInsert.asmx?wsdl'
soap = SOAP::WSDLDriverFactory.new(wsdl).create_rpc_driver
#soap.wiredump_file_base = 'soapresult'
p soap.templateInsert('')
It is a shame why Python still has so poor SOAP implementation. Ruby has
SOAP in *standard library*, Python - not. Even PHP5 has very good SOAP
library built in.
I tried to use different library - SOAPpy, but I couldn't. It requires
fpconst library which cannot be installed because its server does not
respond at all. What a shit...
Why nobody wants to add SOAP to standard Python library? XML-RPC was added
and it works without any problems.
--
Jarosław Zabiełło
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Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
I tried to use different library - SOAPpy, but I couldn't. It requires fpconst library which cannot be installed because its server does not respond at all. What a shit... I concur! When I tried to use ZSI the first time, it turned out it has no support for attachments. Next time I it turned out that it requires PyXML, which has no support and cannot be installed for Window + Python 2.5. Then I needed to use WSSE login, and then I wanted to authenticate with x509. Too many problems. SOAP support for Python is bad indeed. Why nobody wants to add SOAP to standard Python library? XML-RPC was added and it works without any problems Unfortunately, cursing won't help. It would be the best to join the ZSI group - it is where we can help. However, it is an interesting question. Ruby has smaller community, how could they implement a standard SOAP lib? My personal opinion is that SOAP is a piece of shit itself. It is hampered from the beginning. If you are interested why, read this: http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple/ XML-RPC is a fantastic, often undervalued protocol. You can create a new, secure XML-RPC server in Python within 5 minutes. You can write a client for it within one minue. It is REALLY simple. I'm using it continuously. In contrast, SOAP is overcomplicated and anything but simple. No one should create new web services using SOAP. We have enough problems with the existing ones. :-( Despite SOAP is even not a finished standard, big software companies are pushing the technology, can someone explain why? Is it because it only works correctly with Java and .NET? I guess the reasons are quite financial. :-( Laszlo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
Dnia Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:44:31 +0100, Laszlo Nagy napisał(a): However, it is an interesting question. Ruby has smaller community, how could they implement a standard SOAP lib? Yes. It is interesting why it is so difficult to make it working for Python. My personal opinion is that SOAP is a piece of shit itself. It is hampered from the beginning. If you are interested why, read this: http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple/ Hehe, it was good. :) XML-RPC is a fantastic, often undervalued protocol. You can create a new, secure XML-RPC server in Python within 5 minutes. You can write a client for it within one minue. It is REALLY simple. I'm using it continuously. In contrast, SOAP is overcomplicated and anything but simple. No one should create new web services using SOAP. We have enough problems with the existing ones. :-( I agree. The problem is, I have to live with this stupid, poor implemented M$ technology. Ruby and with its standard SOAP library is able to live. Why Python cannnot? -- Jaroslaw Zabiello http://blog.zabiello.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
Jaroslaw Zabiello napisał(a): However, it is an interesting question. Ruby has smaller community, how could they implement a standard SOAP lib? Yes. It is interesting why it is so difficult to make it working for Python. It is not difficult to write in .NET a client for the service implemented on .NET platform. This is interoperability as understood by Microsoft. BEA, IBM Oracle and others aren't any better. If you really must write client for this service, go and do it in Ruby, if it works. -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
Jaroslaw Zabiello wrote: I tried to use different library - SOAPpy, but I couldn't. It requires fpconst library which cannot be installed because its server does not respond at all. Locating fpconst has been quite a challenge in the past, but a search for fpconst on Google yielded the Python Package Index entry pretty quickly: http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/fpconst/0.7.2 I believe the package archive is available directly from the above location, but you can also find source packages for various GNU/Linux distributions, BSDs, and so on. On the first search results page there were links to such details for Fedora, FreeBSD, Darwin and Debian. Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
Dnia Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:48:26 +0100, Jarek Zgoda napisał(a): If you really must write client for this service, go and do it in Ruby, if it works. I cannot. I am using Pylons framework so I have to use Python. Ruby solves this problem but not others, like its low speed. -- Jaroslaw Zabiello http://blog.zabiello.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ZSI, SOAP and .NET web services - problem
Jaroslaw Zabiello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why nobody wants to add SOAP to standard Python library? XML-RPC was added and it works without any problems. I think because SOAP is kinda crappy :-) Did you try soaplib? http://trac.optio.webfactional.com/ I've never used it (nor SOAP in a while) but seems promising -- Lawrence, oluyede.org - neropercaso.it It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it - Upton Sinclair -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Calling Python Web Services from C#
I have a C# .NET cliente calling a Python web services. I pass two string values to web service and I wanna receive a string from the method. But, the server side receive my string values and the client side only display a empty string (). I generate a C# Proxy class from the python web services WSDL with wsdl.exe tool. Any idea about this problem? Regards. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Calling Python Web Services from C#
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a C# .NET cliente calling a Python web services. I pass two string values to web service and I wanna receive a string from the method. But, the server side receive my string values and the client side only display a empty string (). I generate a C# Proxy class from the python web services WSDL with wsdl.exe tool. Any idea about this problem? Not until you provide some more detail. Read this on how to do so properly: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
SOAP web services
I'm trying to make the wsdl asociated with this sample but I cannot make it workimport SOAPpydef doUpper(word): return word.upper()server = SOAPpy.SOAPServer((, 8000)) server.registerFunction(doUpper)server.registerFunction(who)server.serve_forever()can anyone tell me how to do this?anyone who nkows something about SOAPpy.wstools.WSDL?thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python soap web services
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Butternut squash wrote: Is there any reason why there isn't any python library that makes using soap as easy as how microsoft .net makes it. I mean I write rudimentary asmx files call them from a webbrowser. The WSDL is generated and then there is documentation and a form to invoke a function. The WSDL will never as easily be created as in .NET/JAVA, as Python lacks static typing annotations that are used by the WSDL-generators. So either someone defines his own type annotation theme for that purpose that can be used to infer the WSDL - or you write WSDL yourself. Which is a major PITA, as the whole SOAP mess. Ravi OTH has pointed out _running_ a SOAP service is easy as cake. I agree python soap is pretty easy to use. Just a bit harder to use the c# classic way to call a web service. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python soap web services
Is there any reason why there isn't any python library that makes using soap as easy as how microsoft .net makes it. SOAP with Python is easy too in a different sort of way. I don't know about the equivalent for autogenerating WSDL bit as in .NET. #!/usr/bin/env python def hello(): return Hello, world import ZSI ZSI.dispatch.AsCGI() And you have SOAP available on ANY web server. More here. http://pywebsvcs.sourceforge.net/zsi.html http://diveintopython.org/soap_web_services/index.html When do you think someone will make this available for python web service?? When? Will let you know soon as my crystal ball gets delivered :-) Seriously, whenever someone gets that itch to scratch since that's how things get done in OSS usually. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python soap web services
Butternut squash wrote: Is there any reason why there isn't any python library that makes using soap as easy as how microsoft .net makes it. I mean I write rudimentary asmx files call them from a webbrowser. The WSDL is generated and then there is documentation and a form to invoke a function. The WSDL will never as easily be created as in .NET/JAVA, as Python lacks static typing annotations that are used by the WSDL-generators. So either someone defines his own type annotation theme for that purpose that can be used to infer the WSDL - or you write WSDL yourself. Which is a major PITA, as the whole SOAP mess. Ravi OTH has pointed out _running_ a SOAP service is easy as cake. Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Is there any reason why there isn't any python library that makes using soap as easy as how microsoft .net makes it. I mean I write rudimentary asmx files call them from a webbrowser. The WSDL is generated and then there is documentation and a form to invoke a function. When do you think someone will make this available for python web service?? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: 有關於 Mining google web services : Building applications with the Google API這本書的範例
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Re: 有關於 Mining google web services : Building applications with the Google API這本書的範例
I have found the way to solve . So long as alter and establish reading account number and password of the database , finish. Thank you very mush. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Calling Web Services from Python
m.banaouas wrote: Can you tell us more about SOAPpy bug ? Is it about authentication ? Ivan Zuzak a écrit : ... I need a package/tool that generates web service proxies that will do all the low-level HTTP work. (Someting like the WSDL.EXE tool in .NET Framework) The ZSI and SOAPy packages [1] that i found (should) have those functionalities but either have a bug (SOAPy) or either do not work for arbitrary web services (ZSI). ... SOAPy : http://soapy.sourceforge.net/ SOAPPy : http://pywebsvcs.sourceforge.net/ The bugged one is SOAPy (parsing errors and something else). I just downloaded and tried SOAPPy and that one crashes too. I get an Index out of range error while parsing the wsdl ( in XMLSchema.py ). The traceback is a bit long, so I wont list the whole thing here. Bellow this message is the wsdl of the service for which im trying to get a proxy. If anyone manages to get a proxy out of it - please let me know :). Thank you for your help, Ivan WSDL START ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? wsdl:definitions xmlns:s1=http://www.ris.fer.hr/overlay/addressing; xmlns:http=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/http/; xmlns:soap=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/; xmlns:s=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xmlns:s3=http://www.ris.fer.hr/OpenCollectives/CoopetitionServices/MailBox/MessageStatistics; xmlns:s2=http://www.ris.fer.hr/OpenCollectives/CoopetitionServices/XmlDoc; xmlns:s4=http://ris.zemris.fer.hr/remotingSchema; xmlns:soapenc=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/; xmlns:tns=http://www.ris.fer.hr/OpenCollectives/CoopetitionServices/MailBox; xmlns:tm=http://microsoft.com/wsdl/mime/textMatching/; xmlns:mime=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/mime/; targetNamespace=http://www.ris.fer.hr/OpenCollectives/CoopetitionServices/MailBox; xmlns:wsdl=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/; wsdl:types s:schema elementFormDefault=qualified targetNamespace=http://www.ris.fer.hr/OpenCollectives/CoopetitionServices/MailBox; s:import namespace=http://www.ris.fer.hr/overlay/addressing; / s:import namespace=http://www.ris.fer.hr/OpenCollectives/CoopetitionServices/XmlDoc; / s:element name=Create s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=mbID type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 ref=s1:EndpointReference / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=CreateResponse s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1 name=CreateResult type=s:boolean / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=ResourceID type=tns:ResourceID / s:complexType name=ResourceID mixed=true s:annotation s:appinfo keepNamespaceDeclarationsxmlns/keepNamespaceDeclarations /s:appinfo /s:annotation /s:complexType s:element name=Destroy s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 ref=s1:EndpointReference / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=DestroyResponse s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1 name=DestroyResult type=s:boolean / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=PutMessage s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1 ref=s2:xmlDoc / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 ref=s1:EndpointReference / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=PutMessageResponse s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1 name=PutMessageResult type=s:boolean / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=GetMessage s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1 name=timeParam type=s:int / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=cb type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 ref=s1:EndpointReference / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=GetMessageResponse s:complexType s:sequence s:any minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element s:element name=FlushPerformanceLog s:complexType / /s:element s:element name=FlushPerformanceLogResponse s:complexType / /s:element s:element name=GetPerformanceLog s:complexType / /s:element s:element name=GetPerformanceLogResponse s:complexType s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=GetPerformanceLogResult s:complexType mixed=true
Re: Calling Web Services from Python
On 4/7/06, Ivan Zuzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I need a package/tool that generates web service proxies that will do all the low-level HTTP work. (Someting like the WSDL.EXE tool in .NET Framework) The ZSI and SOAPy packages [1] that i found (should) have those functionalities but either have a bug (SOAPy) or either do not work for arbitrary web services (ZSI). I tried the ZSI wsdl2py script on a wsdl of one of my services, and the script crashes. I suppose the wsdl was too hard for the script to parse. I've successfully used wsdl2py for very complex WSDLs and gotten better results than with .Net's equivalent! Could you post the error you got? I don't know of other Python SOAP modules with WSDL support, sorry. Rob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Calling Web Services from Python
Can you tell us more about SOAPpy bug ? Is it about authentication ? Ivan Zuzak a écrit : ... I need a package/tool that generates web service proxies that will do all the low-level HTTP work. (Someting like the WSDL.EXE tool in .NET Framework) The ZSI and SOAPy packages [1] that i found (should) have those functionalities but either have a bug (SOAPy) or either do not work for arbitrary web services (ZSI). ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Calling Web Services from Python
Hello, My Python application calls web services available on the Internet. The web service being called is defined through application user input. The Python built-in library allows access to web services using HTTP protocol, which is not acceptible - generating SOAP messages for arbitrary web services is something i wish to avoid. I need a package/tool that generates web service proxies that will do all the low-level HTTP work. (Someting like the WSDL.EXE tool in .NET Framework) The ZSI and SOAPy packages [1] that i found (should) have those functionalities but either have a bug (SOAPy) or either do not work for arbitrary web services (ZSI). I tried the ZSI wsdl2py script on a wsdl of one of my services, and the script crashes. I suppose the wsdl was too hard for the script to parse. Are there any other packages that utilize generation of web service proxies that are compatible with SOAP WSDL standards? Thank you, ivan zuzak [1] - http://pywebsvcs.sourceforge.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Calling Web Services from Python
Ivan Zuzak wrote: I need a package/tool that generates web service proxies that will do all the low-level HTTP work. (Someting like the WSDL.EXE tool in .NET Framework) The ZSI and SOAPy packages [1] that i found (should) have those functionalities but either have a bug (SOAPy) or either do not work for arbitrary web services (ZSI). You might want to read this, specifically 12.5 and 12.6 for WSDL: http://diveintopython.org/soap_web_services/index.html It uses SOAPpy, which may or may not be different than SOAPy, depending on if you made a typo or not. :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
CFP: The 2006 IAENG International Workshop on Internet Computing and Web Services (in IMECS 2006)
Call for Papers From: International Association of Engineers (http://www.iaeng.org) Journal Engineering Letters (http://www.engineeringletters.com) The 2006 IAENG International Workshop on Internet Computing and Web Services (Part of The International MultiConference of Engineers and Computer Scientists IMECS 2006) 20-22 June, 2006, Hong Kong http://www.iaeng.org/IMECS2006/IWICWS2006.html The IWICWS'06 workshop is held as part of the International MultiConference of Engineers and Computer Scientists 2006. The IMECS 2006 is organized by the International Association of Engineers (IAENG), and serves as good platforms for the engineering community members to meet with each other and to exchange ideas. Extended version of the papers under this workshop can be included in the special issue of our journal Engineering Letters. And, further extended version can also be included in a book called Current Trends in Internet Computing and Web Services to be published by IAENG. The IMECS 2006 multiconference has the focus on the frontier topics in the theoretical and applied engineering and computer science subjects. It consists of 14 workshops (see the details at IMECS website: www.iaeng.org/IMECS2006). The multiconference serves as good platforms for the engineering community members of different disciplines to meet with each other and to exchange ideas. The current conference committee of the IMECS 2006 includes over 140 workshop co-chairs and committee members of mainly research center heads, department heads, professors, research scientists from over 20 countries, while a few of the committee members are also experienced software development directors and engineers. All submitted papers will be under peer review and accepted papers will be published in the conference proceeding (ISBN: 988-98671-3-3). The abstracts will be indexed and available at major academic databases. The Technology Research Databases (TRD) of CSA (Cambridge Scientific Abstracts), DBLP and Computer Science Bibliographies have promised to index the print proceeding in advance of its publication. And after the publication of the proceeding, print copies will also be sent to databases like IEE INSPEC, Engineering Index (EI) and ISI Thomson Scientific for indexing. The accepted papers will also be considered for publication in the special issues of the journal Engineering Letters. Some participants may also be invited to submit extended version of their conference papers for considering as book chapters (soon after the conference). The topics of the workshop include, but not limited to, the following: Internet architecture design Internet search methods Optimization methods Security and protection Fault Tolerance Software Agents Web Java-based applications Knowledge-based web systems Multimedia web tools, architectures, and broadcasting Web data mining and database management Coding and compression Information retrieval Distance learning E-commerce applications E-business modeling and applications And other Internet applications and other web services applications = Submission: Prospective authors are invited to submit their draft paper in abstract format (one page) or in full paper format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] by 12 March, 2006. The submitted file can be in MS Word format, PS format, or PDF formats. The first page of the draft paper should include: · Title of the paper; · Name, affiliation and e-mail address for each author; · A maximum of 5 keywords of the paper; Also, the name of the workshop session that the paper is being submitted to should be stated in the email. = Important Dates: Proposals for special conference sessions and tutorials deadline: 30 December, 2005 Draft Manuscript / Abstract submission deadline: 12 March, 2006 Camera-Ready papers Pre-registration due: 2 April, 2006 IMECS 2006: 20-22 June, 2006 More details about the IWICWS 2006 can be found at: http://www.iaeng.org/IMECS2006/IWICWS2006.html IWICWS Workshop Co-chairs and Committee Members: Fidel Cacheda (co-chair) Assistant professor, Department of Information and Communications Technologies University of A Coruna, Spain Chin-Chen Chang IEEE Fellow, IEE Fellow Chair Professor in Department of Information Engineering and Computer Science, Feng Chia University, Taiwan Yen-Wen Chen Associate Professor, Dept. of Communication Engineering National Central University, Taiwan Dr. Manuel Jose Damasio (co-chair) Head of course at the film, video and Multimedia course of the Communication Sciences Department, Universidade Lusofona de Humanidades e Tecnologias, Portugal Enrique Herrera-Viedma (co-chair) Professor in the Department of Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Sub-director of the Library Sciences School University of Granada, Spain Fu-Chien Kao Associate Professor, Department of Computer Science and Information Engineering, Da-Yeh University, Taiwan Dr. Reggie Kwan School of Science and Technology, The Open
Re: Spambayes modifications with web services
Thank you for the flippant remarks. Let's just say that I found them to be unproductive. I would like to point out the process was not designed to be automatic and I don't believe made such a statement. I should clarify that my desire was to list each domain that was contained in a spam email, so that the user could then: - check if previously it has been reported as spam, or - open the link in their browser, and - check whether the domain was spam or ham, and then if spam - post it to the web service (Post Spam Site to Web Service). Therefore, thanks, yes, I did think through the consequences of my actions. The line that reads WARNING: DO NOT BUY FROM THIS WEBSITE. THE SPAMMER IS., was tongue in cheek, and it seems to be the line that stirred up the condescending comments. What I should have written was something more along the lines of: WARNING: The website domain has been reported by x users as a website that uses illegal spam email to generate business leads I think that is a perfectly useful and fair statement, which I cannot see damaging legitimate business enterprises. I also think it would be quite useful for consumers to know that the domain name they are about to purchase had previously been misused by spammers, and was quite likely to be blacklisted by spam software. I must say that I am surprised that the python group could be so unfriendly and unhelpful. Many thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spambayes modifications with web services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for the flippant remarks. Let's just say that I found them to be unproductive. I would like to point out the process was not designed to be automatic and I don't believe made such a statement. I should clarify that my desire was to list each domain that was contained in a spam email, so that the user could then: - check if previously it has been reported as spam, or - open the link in their browser, and - check whether the domain was spam or ham, and then if spam - post it to the web service (Post Spam Site to Web Service). Therefore, thanks, yes, I did think through the consequences of my actions. The line that reads WARNING: DO NOT BUY FROM THIS WEBSITE. THE SPAMMER IS., was tongue in cheek, and it seems to be the line that stirred up the condescending comments. What I should have written was something more along the lines of: WARNING: The website domain has been reported by x users as a website that uses illegal spam email to generate business leads I think that is a perfectly useful and fair statement, which I cannot see damaging legitimate business enterprises. I also think it would be quite useful for consumers to know that the domain name they are about to purchase had previously been misused by spammers, and was quite likely to be blacklisted by spam software. I must say that I am surprised that the python group could be so unfriendly and unhelpful. Many thanks. Personally I didn't regard the reply as unhelpful, and I believe the replier was honestly trying to get you to see that your rather naive suggestion was most unlikely to make things better. In essence your proposal appears to be that we clog up the search services with long-lived references to pages in your sites that refer to the spammers' (short-lived) sites in derogatory terms. If you managed to get enough people to be so unwise then Google and the other search engines would be useless within a month, and the spammers' sites would dominate their content. You say you specialize in web programming and getting good results on Google, but you don't seem to know that much about how the spammers operate and how the web really works. Generally speaking any attempt to fight back by generating more traffic and more search engine entries will only make things worse. They certainly *won't* go away if you don't ignore them, and they *probably* won't go away even if you do. Ergo such retaliation is a waste of time. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC www.holdenweb.com PyCon TX 2006 www.python.org/pycon/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spambayes modifications with web services
On 02/11/05, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I didn't regard the reply as unhelpful, and I believe the replier was honestly trying to get you to see that your rather naive suggestion was most unlikely to make things better. To the OP A tip for curing your own problem - remove your catchall. Only allow incoming email and bounces to valid in-use addresses - not to an infinite number of unused addresses. Repeat after me Catchalls are lazy !!!:) Catchalls are a spammer's best friend and contribute greatly to the internet's spam problem AND to the increasingly harsh attempts by ISPs and other mail providers to reduce their load and spam throughput. Not to mention the slow lingering death of services that provide a catchall that can be forwarded. You used a real domain name in your original post !! Anyone marking your post as spam using your criteria would have blacklisted that unfortunate domain. HTH :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Spambayes modifications with web services
In the last few months many personal website owners (such as myself) have found that spammers have been using their domain names to masquerade as valid users to send spam, normally in the form of: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This new tactic has an annoying problem, which is that the bounced emails end up back with the postmaster at the innocent persons domain. This is normally the first time that the domain owner realises that there is a problem. I am one of those people and currently have nearly 3 thousand bounces in my catch all POP3 box. Solutions I can see to this are one of two things: 1) Delete the email as it arrives and ignore it. Realise that the domain name might end up being blacklisted as a spammer's domain and be done with it, or 2) Fight back! All of the bounced emails contain at least one URI to a spammer website, in a effort to sell Cheap Meds or Faked Rolexes or similar. The format is usually something like this: http://www.sickmate.info/?a2fb9e415e74beS9cdee919d78Sa6a7d The query part of the URI I believe provides the reference between the email address and the visit. Hence if you visit the website with this link, your email address is saved in a database as one that is a) valid, and b) dumb enough to visit the website. The spammers rely on the fact that some people will visit this website and buy from them. In fact, Q.E.D., some people must buy from these websites via spam, otherwise the spammers would have given up a long time ago*. So, as a web programmer and someone who specialises in getting good results on Google, I realised that I could simply post every spammer website on a Google optimized page, which if searched for on Google would return something like: WARNING: DO NOT BUY FROM THIS WEBSITE. THE SPAMMER IS A RUSSIAN MAFIA CROOK WHO WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY. ...Or something equally obvious along those lines. In this way we attack the websites that are the link between the spam and the money. The real necessity therefore is to: a) Process the received bounced messages quickly and list them on the website without delay. b) Prevent the spammer using the domain The answer to (b) I cannot find. I thought SPF might help, but it is not a panacea. The answer to (a) I need help with! So, I'm on Windows XP. I use Outlook 2002 and I already have the excellent (and FREE) SpamBayes Outlook add-in** that blocks spam and loves ham. Spambayes is open source and as such I can modify the source code, recompile it and install it afresh. However, the problem is that I'm not a python programmer, and I'm not sure where to start. This is what I want to do, so if anyone would like to direct me, I'd be grateful: 1) Add a menu option to the SpamBayes add-in - Post Spam Site to Web Service. I'm guessing I can add a new line to the addin.py such as below, but how do I sink the event? self._AddControl(popup, constants.msoControlButton, ButtonEvent, (PostSpamSite, self.manager,), Caption=Post Spam Site to Web Service, Enabled=True, Visible=True, Tag = SpamBayesCommand.PostSpam) 2) Add a configuration setting, so that the web service location can be set. I'm guessing this is in config.py. Pointers welcome. 4) Add a function to extract all links in a block of text. I have written a good one of these for .NET, but I'm not sure if, or how it would work in Python: string hrefPattern = @(?all(?:(?protocolhttp(?:s?)|ftp)(?:\:\/\/)) + @(?domain[^/\r\n\:]+)? + @(?port\:\d+)? + @(?path[^\?#]*)? + @(?qrystr\?\w*)? + @(?bookmark\#\w*)?); // Regular Expression Regex hrefRegex = new Regex(hrefPattern, RegexOptions.Singleline | RegexOptions.IgnorePatternWhitespace | RegexOptions.IgnoreCase); Any help with this welcome. Do I need a specific Python regex library or can I use the .NET regex library in Python? 4) Connect to web service using SOAP and consume that service. Service will provide: a) Authorise (username, password) - returns access b) Submit (domain) - returns success or failure Can I use SOAPpy for this? Can anyone give me any examples or point me in the right direction? 5) Provide another option in the add in to Scan folder and Post Spam Sites to Web Service, in the same manner as Filter messages works now. Can I use filter.py as a model to work from? Summary = I am not a Python programmer per se but have no problem with getting my hands dirty. I have already got the basics of this working as a Windows.Forms application, but running both that and Outlook together is daft. The Spambayes project already does the hard bit in classifying the spam, so it makes sense to hang off the back of it. Has anyone else had similar problems as me with these phantom email addresses being using by spammers and would like to work with me on this? Would anyone in the Spambayes team like to have a go at this, or point me in the right direction? Has anyone had a
Re: Spambayes modifications with web services
benmorganpowell: So, as a web programmer and someone who specialises in getting good results on Google, I realised that I could simply post every spammer website on a Google optimized page, which if searched for on Google would return something like: WARNING: DO NOT BUY FROM THIS WEBSITE. THE SPAMMER IS A RUSSIAN MAFIA CROOK WHO WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY. Spam may also contain the addresses of non-spamming businesses, sometimes in an effort to increase the apparent legitimacy of the spam. Attacking all of the web sites in spam will cost these businesses while having little effect on spammers who use temporary domains which may be cheaply abandoned. It also gives another attack vector for those criminals that attempt to extort money from web sites by threatening to damage them. If you want to take action against spammers, first think through all the potential consequences of your actions. Neil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spambayes modifications with web services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last few months many personal website owners (such as myself) have found that spammers have been using their domain names to masquerade as valid users to send spam, normally in the form of: snip So, as a web programmer and someone who specialises in getting good results on Google, I realised that I could simply post every spammer website on a Google optimized page, which if searched for on Google would return something like: WARNING: DO NOT BUY FROM THIS WEBSITE. THE SPAMMER IS A RUSSIAN MAFIA CROOK WHO WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY. snip So basically a DoS attack could now be simply performed by crafting a spam message and adding the url to your target and then sending it out to as many users you can think of ? (DoS not in the typical form, but the effect would be just as real, deny them of legitimate customers) Nice plan sherlock. -- Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen http://usinglvkblog.blogspot.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP KeyID: 0x2A42A1C2 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
amazon web services/api...
hi... has anybody ever played/successfully with the amazon- web services/api? i'm trying to figure out how i can use the browsenodeid to generate ISBN information for a book. the examples i've seen on various sites haven't been much help yet. thanks -bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
