Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On Mon, 02 May 2005 19:25:57 -0700, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dcrespo wrote: But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is very important. Where it is? Daniel i saw this message too and i've been using it for the last couple days, but i don't see the class/functions browser you are talking about. where is it??? thanks, bryan Did you try: Menu View = Toggle Source Browser? -- Franz Steinhäusler http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On 2 May 2005 08:21:48 -0700, dcrespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. You were right: I meant Code Completition. I did what you told me to do. I get now auto completition of code. For example: import wx wx.(here appear a list with the possibilities) But (there's always a but) with: button = wx.Button(...) when I write button. there's a flick of the list of the possible parameters, resulting in no showing it. Is there a way to correct it? Daniel Hi, I personally don't use it. Hm, because of drpython is weak typed, that is not so easy. It would require an extra parsing of the current document. Anyway this could be a feature request and I put it into sf tracker. Stani's Python Editor and Boa Constructor doesn't (seem) support this too. -- Franz Steinhäusler http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Try one of these: - Hit F8 - Menu View/Toggle Source Browser Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On 2005-04-29, John J. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse On 2005-04-27, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs user? For me, the code completion feature. Also, modern anti-aliased font rendering under Linux doesn't hurt. Emacs python-mode is still ahead on code formatting. For example, the way you can line up code by hitting tab once anywhere on the line. And I miss emacs things like M-^ (delete-indentation; joins the line to the previous line and removes whitespace). Eclipse has an emacs keybinding mode, but it's not very comprehensive. I'm not ready to switch, but I played around enough to know I could get fairly comfortable if I wanted to. I exaggerated memory usage a bit. Eclipse only uses about twice as much RAM as XEmacs on my Linux box. Still, I probably wouldn't find it as usable if this wasn't an AMD64 3200 with 1G RAM. Dave Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is very important. Where it is? Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On 2 May 2005 06:08:02 -0700, dcrespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: Hello Daniel, thank you, I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is very important. Where it is? Daniel For clarification: 1) There is the normal Autocomplete: It looks for already available Words in the text file, and suggest possible completition. Edit = Find and complete. 2) A plugin: Abbreviations: You can edit a list of words with abbreviation keys (like in SciTE). 3) I think, you meant Code Completition: for example you type: os. and with the . os.chmod, os.chdir, ... appear in a completition list box. You have to download it or install via plugin manager this plugin. Best overview, you get if you choose Show ALL Project Files in the Project:DrPython: Summary. Or you look at the homepage: http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ and select Plugins. HTH, -- Franz Steinhäusler http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:29:58 +0200, Franz Steinhaeusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) I think, you meant Code Completition: for example you type: os. and with the . os.chmod, os.chdir, ... appear in a completition list box. BTW: If it doesn't seem to work: Make sure, to enable it in Options=Enable Autocompletition. You can also select under Plugin Preferences Code Completition Enabled by default. For other questions, you are welcome to ask in the tracker or Public Forums. -- Franz Steinhäusler http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Also take a look at Stani's Python Editor http://spe.pycs.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Hi. You were right: I meant Code Completition. I did what you told me to do. I get now auto completition of code. For example: import wx wx.(here appear a list with the possibilities) But (there's always a but) with: button = wx.Button(...) when I write button. there's a flick of the list of the possible parameters, resulting in no showing it. Is there a way to correct it? Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
I'm a fan of PSPad. It's free, light weight, and works with everything. I want to second that. For small scripts PSPad is definitely very useful and comfortable. For larger scripts I'd consider something with code-completion. Maybe PyDev. best regards Steffen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
dcrespo wrote: But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is very important. Where it is? Daniel i saw this message too and i've been using it for the last couple days, but i don't see the class/functions browser you are talking about. where is it??? thanks, bryan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John == John J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs John user? http://pydev.sourceforge.net/features.html Code completion and debugger are the most obvious ones. Eclipse itself is also quite a feature. What good features does the debugger have? What other good features does Eclipse have right now (that are useful for Python programming, but not necessarily specific to that)? Obviously Eclipse looks good in the future, but I wonder what it's like right now. I'm more interested in features than bugs, since I'm sure the following experience isn't typical, but: I did try it not long ago, and the commercial distribution I tried (I forget the name, but it had added Python support) hung after a few minutes of use, and completion didn't work. It was also terribly slow (compared to emacs on the same box), which worries me more than the bugs. John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On 28 Apr 2005 09:48:25 -0700, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that Frank. You have to create a project (New -- Project) and add your file to it then Run--Run. This is a bug that slipped past because we do all of our development using projects and hadn't even tried the obvious: open file and run. That fix has made its way to the wx folks, but hasn't been released yet. Hello Matt, thanks for clarification ;) -- Franz Steinhäusler http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2005-04-27, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse [...] What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs user? John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
John == John J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs John user? http://pydev.sourceforge.net/features.html Code completion and debugger are the most obvious ones. Eclipse itself is also quite a feature. -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
pydev == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: pydev * PyDev isn't yet mature enough to make it practical for me What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately. -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Dave Cook wrote:
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Once upon a time emacs was considered bloated,
That was when 640ko ought to be enough ?-)
but it's tiny compared to eclipse.
Yeps. And a *lot* faster. And in not that much bigger than Vim in fact...
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Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Ville Vainio wrote: What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately. PyDev 0.9.2 with Eclipse 3.0.2. It's a nice effort currently, but some of my issues are: * Code completion doesn't work properly for me, and I have no idea why. I have to type the '.' then ADD A SPACE, *then* press Ctrl+Space. If I type Ctrl+Space after the dot, nothing happens. So basically it's not very useful, because I'd have to go back and get rid of the stupid space. * Code completion isn't nearly as fast as WingIDE. * Auto-indentation could be smarter, such as dedenting after a 'return' statement. * The Problems view finds 52 errors in a file with 0. * Run As doesn't dump me into an interactive shell. -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Oh yeah, and what's with not being able to configure the code completion key sequence. How about *no* key sequence? That's the way every other IDE I've used does it. This is more like semi-automatic code completion. -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Brian Beck wrote: What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately. I realize 0.9.3 is the latest release, but the installation fails through the Eclipse updater: Unable to complete action for feature PyDev for Eclipse due to errors. Unable to create file /opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunner.py. [/opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunner.py (No such file or directory)] -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Brian Beck wrote: I realize 0.9.3 is the latest release, but the installation fails through the Eclipse updater: Unable to complete action for feature PyDev for Eclipse due to errors. Unable to create file /opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunner.py. [/opt/eclipse-extensions-3/eclipse/plugins/org.python.pydev_0.9.3/PySrc/SocketTestRunner.py (No such file or directory)] Okay, sorry for spamming the newsgroup so much, but I installed 0.9.3 properly and the same issues I mentioned before persist. Code completion for imports or locals don't work at all -- the space thing was PyDev just listing all the built-ins, with none of my modules or locals included in the list. -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Brian == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Oh yeah, and what's with not being able to configure the Brian code completion key sequence. How about *no* key sequence? Brian That's the way every other IDE I've used does it. This is Brian more like semi-automatic code completion. It works like that for me. I type: import os os.wait a second And I get the list of completions. Perhaps you are just being impatient? Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has Autocomplete on '.' box checked. -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Brian == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Okay, sorry for spamming the newsgroup so much, but I Brian installed 0.9.3 properly and the same issues I mentioned Brian before persist. Code completion for imports or locals don't Brian work at all -- the space thing was PyDev just listing all Brian the built-ins, with none of my modules or locals included Brian in the list. This is another thing that works fine for me. Have you tried starting with an empty file to see whether there is something in your source file that trips up pydev? Whining at the pydev mailing list might work as well. -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Ville Vainio wrote: Perhaps you are just being impatient? Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has Autocomplete on '.' box checked. Yeah, that option is enabled. I actually just discovered that it does work in the example you give and for other modules in the standard library. But calls to standard library modules only occur maybe twice in any of my big scripts... the problem is I've been trying code completion with third-party modules and local classes, which still doesn't work. -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Brian == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Ville Vainio wrote: Perhaps you are just being impatient? Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has Autocomplete on '.' box checked. Brian Yeah, that option is enabled. I actually just discovered Brian that it does work in the example you give and for other Brian modules in the standard library. But calls to standard Brian library modules only occur maybe twice in any of my big Brian scripts... the problem is I've been trying code completion Brian with third-party modules and local classes, which still Brian doesn't work. From the faq at http://pydev.sourceforge.net/faq.html: How do I set the PYTHONPATH for code completion to work in my project? To set the PYTHONPATH for code completion purposes, you have to right click your project root, choose properties-PyDev PYTHONPATH and set it. The Restore PYTHONPATH button should get your enviroment PYTHONPATH and automatically set it. If it does not work, check python interpreter is correctly set (see questions above). Does this help? -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Ville Vainio wrote: Does this help? Not really, my PYTHONPATH is fine. I found out that modules imported in the format import mx work fine, but from mx import DateTime doesn't work -- it will still only auto-complete when I type mx. instead of realizing that it's in the local scope now. So it's fine all the modules fine, just placing them wrong in the auto-complete search tree, or however it works. -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Sorry about that Frank. You have to create a project (New -- Project) and add your file to it then Run--Run. This is a bug that slipped past because we do all of our development using projects and hadn't even tried the obvious: open file and run. That fix has made its way to the wx folks, but hasn't been released yet. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Franz, To ask for help otherwise, use the forums link from http://sourceforge.net/projects/activegrid/ --Matt -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Which IDE is recommended?
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
What about eric? Good, it seem a very capable ide. But it require qt and for linux only? (can't find the system requirement) I have been using PyDev for some time, but i think it is not always very handsome (e.g. writing a 5-line script in vim needs less time than eclipse startup ;-) otoh, for 5line scripts i am using vim anyway... Yes, eclipse really eat my ram out -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On 4/27/05, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. Believe it or not, this has been discussed before :) Some relevant links, in no particular order: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/e58230e15f7bb072/ec34f252a00c4b31?q=boa+wing+komodornum=1#ec34f252a00c4b31 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/4ac901800452fe52/32f9a7f307d16bbd?q=boa+wing+komodornum=3#32f9a7f307d16bbd http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/b4301bf4de581351/84fea0f68251b810?q=idernum=14#84fea0f68251b810 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/6018db6e62e44895/46ef2516271a51d3?tvc=1q=vim+emacs+komodo#46ef2516271a51d3 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/a917d15f5a16500c/d989575525959c32?q=vim+emacs+komodornum=4#d989575525959c32 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/e3a65f2908bb8ba4/12ea5915f8f09546?q=vim+emacs+komodornum=5#12ea5915f8f09546 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/8cf3565673bc4a7e/a4a84c1e7271ca1a?tvc=1q=vim+emacs+komodo#a4a84c1e7271ca1a http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/5de87dcdd817ba26/b2ff72c8e864818b?q=vim+emacs+wingrnum=1#b2ff72c8e864818b http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/766c24a82674da7/47d9c8157639d81e?q=vim+wing+komodornum=2#47d9c8157639d81e http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/b21e43c45f183dc7/3a118074c68f1f35?q=vim+wing+komodornum=3#3a118074c68f1f35 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/2225676eb7e1b4e/cdee764dfa2b5391?q=best+IDernum=1#cdee764dfa2b5391 Peace Bill Mill bill.mill at gmail.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
Sorry about the empty post. I'm a fan of PSPad. It's free, light weight, and works with everything. http://www.pspad.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:29 +0800, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). Hello, I think, it is. But SciTE is also nice (you can start Python Programs with F5, IIRC, and you see the output of your program). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). It is very customizable (Keyboard Shortcuts, customizable right-mouse popup menu, Syntax Check, you can define your own scripts or macros and you can extend it with plugins, as there are several available). (Find/Replace in Files, Sessions, Code Completition, Document List, Position Marker, Autocomplete, Incremental Search, Abbreviations You can open several Python prompts in the editor and start your currently typed program and view the output. It is written in wxPython, open source and under development. I use it for all my Python typing and development. -- Franz Steinhäusler http://drpython.sourceforge.net/ http://mitglied.lycos.de/drpython/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
The ActiveGrid IDE is a sample app with wxPython. It has a lot of good features including a source code debugger that allows you to debug wx apps and set breakpoints from the code editor. I am also biased though--I work on that IDE and use it for all my coding. Its pretty far along on Windows and getting better on Linux. We just got it working on a Mac yesterday so that version won't be out for a bit. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 01:16 pm, monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. Is Boa actively used? There doesn't seem to be much activity its mailing list. The tutorial fails for me using python 2.3.5, wxpython 2.5.3.2 and Boa 0.4.0 under debian sid. Jeff -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:29 +0800, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. If you intend to use Python for Matlab-like calculations with numerical arrays and plotting with Matplotlib, then ipython is the right choice-- it has a special 'pylab' mode that is Matplotlib-aware, allowing you to make plots interactively (as well as various other useful features). Matt Feinstein -- There is no virtue in believing something that can be proved to be true. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. Here's been my experience: * Don't underestimate IDLE, it's surprisingly capable considering it's just a dinky little thing * PyDev isn't yet mature enough to make it practical for me * SPE has great features, but the pure-Python-ness makes it slow! Even just typing at a steady pace is slowed down due to all the name lookups. Plus, I still haven't found a way to reset the built-in Python shell, so if you run/import your module into it, you have to reload the entire app to reuse the shell. del module-name doesn't help because the classes will still be in the registry * WingIDE is the most advanced by far, but isn't free. Its built-in Python shell also suffers from not easily being able to test _the module you're writing_ without a bunch of path switching. I remember the interface feeling slow on Windows, but on Linux everything is snappy. The quickness of the autocompletion for even seperate module members amazes me * If you're running KDE, KDevelop is very capable. The autocompletion is very generic though, it'll happily complete any word you've typed before. The auto-indentation isn't nearly as spot-on as WingIDE's * I hate PythonWin or whatever it's called. Dunno what more to say -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
I really like eclipse + pydev Regards, Philippe monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. Eric3 for big stuff. SciTE for small stuff. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
* Don't underestimate IDLE, it's surprisingly capable considering it's just a dinky little thing Yes, I believe IDLE is the a unbeatible last resort for python (-: * SPE has great features, but the pure-Python-ness makes it slow! Is it related to wxpython you mean? or program with GUI in tk (the default installed with python) is faster? Would you mind to tell me more... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
jeff elkins wrote: Is Boa actively used? There doesn't seem to be much activity its mailing list. The tutorial fails for me using python 2.3.5, wxpython 2.5.3.2 and Boa 0.4.0 under debian sid. Jeff Boa is not a dead project if that's your concern, maybe it's not getting a lot of attention, but the cvs is getting some decent activity, 0.4.x was recently released, and I've seen some bug reports being fixed in cvs quite fast too. It's really a great product if you can live with its poor documentation and its constraint-oriented design (as opposed to sizer oriented) yes I know it supports sizers, but it wasn't designed for it, and you'll probably end up manually coding the sizers because the built-in support is really weird. anyway, I consider boa the best rad tool for wxpython, it could be better.. but it's still the best of its kind imho. regards, Alex Verstraeten. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
monkey a écrit : Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. emacs + ECB + python-mode. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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I used Boa for a Win32 project. It helped me enormously. It's very easy to design windows etc. But the generated python code is not beautiful. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which IDE is recommended?
On 2005-04-27, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth looking. Actually which one are you guys using? and why? I think it is also valuable for those who are new to python as me. Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse to get them. I use XEmacs. Once upon a time emacs was considered bloated, but it's tiny compared to eclipse. Dave Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
