Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-05 Thread Rod Stephenson
Rocco Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 John Roth wrote:
  Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  George Sakkis schrieb:
 
  Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9
 
 
  Why not 2.13 or 2.4711? Version strings are sequences of arbitrary
  integers separated by dots and not decimal numbers, or are they?
  Because Guido said (somewhere) that he didn't want to go over
  release 2.9.
 

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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-04 Thread Peter Maas
George Sakkis schrieb:
 Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9

Why not 2.13 or 2.4711? Version strings are sequences of arbitrary
integers separated by dots and not decimal numbers, or are they?

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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-04 Thread John Roth
Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 George Sakkis schrieb:
 Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9

 Why not 2.13 or 2.4711? Version strings are sequences of arbitrary
 integers separated by dots and not decimal numbers, or are they?

Because Guido said (somewhere) that he didn't want to go over
release 2.9.

John Roth

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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-04 Thread Rocco Moretti
John Roth wrote:
 Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 George Sakkis schrieb:

 Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9


 Why not 2.13 or 2.4711? Version strings are sequences of arbitrary
 integers separated by dots and not decimal numbers, or are they?
 
 
 Because Guido said (somewhere) that he didn't want to go over
 release 2.9.

It's actually (repeated) in the talk linked to earlier. The rationale is 
not touched on, though.

George Sakkis wrote:
 Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9 and that 3.0 may be
 released in parallel with 2.5-2.9
 (http://www.python.org/doc/essays/ppt/euro2004/euro2004.ppt), I guess
 this *someday* will be no later than 2015-16, probably sooner than
 that.
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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!  Even the fact that these ideas
have been organized into a PEP is
exciting to methere is hope that
they may *someday* be implemented.  Maybe sooner than people think.

Another reason to love Python like no other.

Chris

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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-03 Thread John Roth
Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Guido gave a nice Python Regrets Power Point talk at OSCON few years
 ago.

 I was wondering if the plan is to ever implement these ideas.

 e.g. Guido said he'd prefer 'print' to be a *function* with perhaps a
 'println' version IIRC.

He also had a ton of stuff he'd rather see become iterators.

 As currently being (re)discussed at tedious length in recent threads here, 
 changes would will only be realized in Python 3.0 (aka Python 3000 in 
 facetious reference to when we can expect to see such a beast).

I believe the current plan is to make compatible changes in the
next few releases, and then make the incompatable changes in
Python 3.0 See PEP 3000 for details.

http://www.python.org/peps/pep-3000.html

What this means is that there is a good chance that a print()
built-in function or method on a file object may show up in
a future release, the print statment won't go away until
Python 3.0.

John Roth

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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-03 Thread George Sakkis
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 Thanks!  Even the fact that these ideas
 have been organized into a PEP is
 exciting to methere is hope that
 they may *someday* be implemented.  Maybe sooner than people think.

Given that the latest 2.x python will be 2.9 and that 3.0 may be
released in parallel with 2.5-2.9
(http://www.python.org/doc/essays/ppt/euro2004/euro2004.ppt), I guess
this *someday* will be no later than 2015-16, probably sooner than
that.

George

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Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guido gave a nice Python Regrets Power Point talk at OSCON few years
ago.

I was wondering if the plan is to ever implement these ideas.

e.g. Guido said he'd prefer 'print' to be a *function* with perhaps a
'println' version IIRC.

   He also had a ton of stuff he'd rather see become iterators.

Chris

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Re: Will Guido's Python Regrets ever get implemented/fixed?

2005-07-02 Thread Jordan Rastrick
Python 3000 is the proveribal and so far hypothetical version of the
language in which backward incompatible changes will be allowed (and
encouraged).

See

http://www.python.org/peps/pep-3000.html

for details.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guido gave a nice Python Regrets Power Point talk at OSCON few years
 ago.

 I was wondering if the plan is to ever implement these ideas.

 e.g. Guido said he'd prefer 'print' to be a *function* with perhaps a
 'println' version IIRC.

He also had a ton of stuff he'd rather see become iterators.
 
 Chris

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