Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Tech Geekers and their Style

2006-01-01 Thread John W. Kennedy
Xah Lee wrote:
> With all the whizbang of styles and features in CSS2, a basic,
> necessary, functional layout feature as multi-columns is not there yet.
> This is a indication of the fatuousness of the IT industry's
> technologies and its people.

No, this is an indication of what happens to an industry paralyzed by 
organized crime and a corrupt government.

Microsoft delendum est.

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Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Tech Geekers and their Style

2005-12-30 Thread Harlan Messinger
[followups to comp.infosystems.www.authoring stylesheets, since that's 
the only newsgroup the OP addressed where this is relevant (LISP?? what 
was he thinking?]

Xah Lee wrote:
> Sometimes you want your text to flow into multiple columns, as in
> newspaper's layout. However, as of 2005-12 this is not yet possible.
> One can make-do by hard-coding it into HTML TABLE using multiple
> columns. It is a pain because when you change your text, you have to
> manually cut and paste to justify each and every columns by
> trial-n-error.

It's also pointless since that balances the text only in *your* browser, 
using your settings. It will look unbalanced in other people's browsers.

> 
> A proposed solution is in CSS3 “Multi-column layout”, drafted in
> 2001 but not yet in any mainstream browsers as of 2005-12. See
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-css3-multicol-20010118/
> 
> With all the whizbang of styles and features in CSS2, a basic,
> necessary, functional layout feature as multi-columns is not there yet.
> This is a indication of the fatuousness of the IT industry's
> technologies and its people.

It isn't either basic or (obviously, since the world is still turning 
after all these years without it) necessary.
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Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Tech Geekers and their Style

2005-12-30 Thread Pascal Bourguignon
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sometimes you want your text to flow into multiple columns, as in
> newspaper's layout. However, as of 2005-12 this is not yet possible.
> One can make-do by hard-coding it into HTML TABLE using multiple
> columns. It is a pain because when you change your text, you have to
> manually cut and paste to justify each and every columns by
> trial-n-error.
>
> A proposed solution is in CSS3 “Multi-column layout”, drafted in
> 2001 but not yet in any mainstream browsers as of 2005-12. See
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-css3-multicol-20010118/
>
> With all the whizbang of styles and features in CSS2, a basic,
> necessary, functional layout feature as multi-columns is not there yet.
> This is a indication of the fatuousness of the IT industry's
> technologies and its people.

In general, the IT industry doesn't address the needs of the Neandertals.

If you want a narrow column, you just reduce the size of your window!



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Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Tech Geekers and their Style

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Winter
On 30/12/2005 16:45, Xah Lee wrote:

[Follow-ups trimmed to c.i.w.a.stylesheets]

[snip]

> A proposed solution is in CSS3 “Multi-column layout”, drafted in
> 2001 but not yet in any mainstream browsers as of 2005-12.

Quite rightly so, in my opinion. The Multi-column layout module is 
currently a working draft and, as I recall, a relatively vague one at 
that. It would be rather foolish to produce anything but a 
proof-of-concept implementation until its various aspects are finalised.

[Aside]
If I remember correctly, Mozilla implemented the W3C DOM Level 3 Events 
module, which introduced a keyboard event type (KeyEvent). In a later 
revision, this interface name was replaced with TextEvent. Later on, a 
similarly named interface (KeyboardEvent) was introduced, focusing 
specifically on low-level keyboard events. These radical changes 
wouldn't mean very much had Mozilla waited.

The DOM Level 3 Events module has been a Working Group Note since 
November 2003. This probably marks the end of its development.
[/Aside]

[snip]

Mike

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Xah's Edu Corner: Tech Geekers and their Style

2005-12-30 Thread Xah Lee
Sometimes you want your text to flow into multiple columns, as in
newspaper's layout. However, as of 2005-12 this is not yet possible.
One can make-do by hard-coding it into HTML TABLE using multiple
columns. It is a pain because when you change your text, you have to
manually cut and paste to justify each and every columns by
trial-n-error.

A proposed solution is in CSS3 “Multi-column layout”, drafted in
2001 but not yet in any mainstream browsers as of 2005-12. See
http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-css3-multicol-20010118/

With all the whizbang of styles and features in CSS2, a basic,
necessary, functional layout feature as multi-columns is not there yet.
This is a indication of the fatuousness of the IT industry's
technologies and its people.

 Xah
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ∑ http://xahlee.org/

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Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes in the last few months, apparently Microsoft made changes to
their JavaScript documentation website:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/script56/html/1e9b3876-3d38-4fd8-8596-1bbfe2330aa9.asp

so that, one has to goddamn press the "expand" button to view the
documentation, for every goddamn page.

What the fuck is going on?

And, good url before the change are now broken (giving HTTP error 404).

Many of the newfangled buttons such as "Copy Code" doesn't goddamn work

in Safari, FireFox, iCab, Mac IE.

And, in any of these browsers, the code examples becomes single
congested block without any line breaks. e.g.

«Circle.prototype.pi = Math.PI; function ACirclesArea () { return
this.pi * this.r * this.r; // The formula for the area of a circle is
r2. } Circle.prototype.area = ACirclesArea; // The function
that calculates the area of a circle is now a method of the Circle
Prototype object. var a = ACircle.area(); // This is how you would
invoke the area function on a Circle object.»


There are two interpretations to this Microsoft's JavaScript doc
problem:

1. They didn't do it intentionally.

2. They did it intentionally.

If (1), then it would be a fucking incompetence of inordinate order. If
(2), they would be assholes, even though they have the right to do so.

On the other hand, in terms of documentation quality, technological
excellence, responsibility in software, Microsoft in the 21st century
is the holder of human progress when compared to the motherfucking Open
Sourcers lying thru their teeth fuckheads.

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Xah's Edu Corner: Tech Geekers and their Style

2005-12-30 Thread Xah Lee
Sometimes you want your text to flow into multiple columns, as in
newspaper's layout. However, as of 2005-12 this is not yet possible.
One can make-do by hard-coding it into HTML TABLE using multiple
columns. It is a pain because when you change your text, you have to
manually cut and paste to justify each and every columns by
trial-n-error.

A proposed solution is in CSS3 “Multi-column layout”, drafted in
2001 but not yet in any mainstream browsers as of 2005-12. See
http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-css3-multicol-20010118/

With all the whizbang of styles and features in CSS2, a basic,
necessary, functional layout feature as multi-columns is not there yet.
This is a indication of the fatuousness of the IT industry's
technologies and its people.

 Xah
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ∑ http://xahlee.org/

--
Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes in the last few months, apparently Microsoft made changes to
their JavaScript documentation website:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/script56/html/1e9b3876-3d38-4fd8-8596-1bbfe2330aa9.asp

so that, one has to goddamn press the "expand" button to view the
documentation, for every goddamn page.

What the fuck is going on?

And, good url before the change are now broken (giving HTTP error 404).

Many of the newfangled buttons such as "Copy Code" doesn't goddamn work

in Safari, FireFox, iCab, Mac IE.

And, in any of these browsers, the code examples becomes single
congested block without any line breaks. e.g.

«Circle.prototype.pi = Math.PI; function ACirclesArea () { return
this.pi * this.r * this.r; // The formula for the area of a circle is
r2. } Circle.prototype.area = ACirclesArea; // The function
that calculates the area of a circle is now a method of the Circle
Prototype object. var a = ACircle.area(); // This is how you would
invoke the area function on a Circle object.»


There are two interpretations to this Microsoft's JavaScript doc
problem:

1. They didn't do it intentionally.

2. They did it intentionally.

If (1), then it would be a fucking incompetence of inordinate order. If
(2), they would be assholes, even though they have the right to do so.

On the other hand, in terms of documentation quality, technological
excellence, responsibility in software, Microsoft in the 21st century
is the holder of human progress when compared to the motherfucking Open
Sourcers lying thru their teeth fuckheads.

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