Re: dash/underscore on name of package uploaded on pypi
On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 12:08:00 AM UTC+3, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 2/28/2019 11:09 AM, ast wrote: > > Hello > > > > I just uploaded a package on pypi, whose name is "arith_lib" > > > > The strange thing is that on pypi the package is renamed "arith-lib" > > The underscore is substitued with a dash > > > > If we search for this package: > > > > pip search arith > > > > arith-lib (2.0.0) - A set of functions for miscellaneous arithmetic > > (so a dash) > > > > For installation both: > > > > pip install -U arith_lib > > pip install -U arith-lib > > > > are working well > > > > and in both case I got a directory with an underscore > > > > C:\Program Files\Python36-32\Lib\site-packages > > > > 28/02/2019 16:57 arith_lib > > 28/02/2019 16:57 arith_lib-2.0.0.dist-info > > > > What happens ? > To expand on Paul's answer. > > English uses '-' both as a connector for compound names and as a > subtraction operator. Context usually makes the choice obvious. But > context-free parsers must choose just one, and for computation, > subtraction wins. 'arith-lib' is parsed as (arith) - (lib). Many > algorithm languages use '_' instead of '-' as the compounder for > identifiers (object names). > > In addition, Python uses filenames -(minus) '.py' as identifiers for > imported modules. So if the repository allows '-' in package names, > installers must convert '-' to '_'. But if the repository allows > 'arith_lib' and 'arith-lib' to be distinct names for different packages, > both would be installed with the same file name. So the repository > standardizes on one form, and it went with English instead of Pythonese. > > -- > Terry Jan Reedy Hi, Recently I wrote the article about packages vs distributions and also explored naming and normalization: https://labdmitriy.github.io/blog/distributions-vs-packages/#additional-experiments In the section “Additional experiments” I got the expected normalization results, but in “Open questions” I found that for another package URL is not normalized and original URL is used, and name is partially normalized (underscore is replaced by hyphen but dot remains unchanged). Could you please explain this behavior? Thank you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: dash/underscore on name of package uploaded on pypi
On 2/28/2019 11:09 AM, ast wrote: Hello I just uploaded a package on pypi, whose name is "arith_lib" The strange thing is that on pypi the package is renamed "arith-lib" The underscore is substitued with a dash If we search for this package: pip search arith arith-lib (2.0.0) - A set of functions for miscellaneous arithmetic (so a dash) For installation both: pip install -U arith_lib pip install -U arith-lib are working well and in both case I got a directory with an underscore C:\Program Files\Python36-32\Lib\site-packages 28/02/2019 16:57 arith_lib 28/02/2019 16:57 arith_lib-2.0.0.dist-info What happens ? To expand on Paul's answer. English uses '-' both as a connector for compound names and as a subtraction operator. Context usually makes the choice obvious. But context-free parsers must choose just one, and for computation, subtraction wins. 'arith-lib' is parsed as (arith) - (lib). Many algorithm languages use '_' instead of '-' as the compounder for identifiers (object names). In addition, Python uses filenames -(minus) '.py' as identifiers for imported modules. So if the repository allows '-' in package names, installers must convert '-' to '_'. But if the repository allows 'arith_lib' and 'arith-lib' to be distinct names for different packages, both would be installed with the same file name. So the repository standardizes on one form, and it went with English instead of Pythonese. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: dash/underscore on name of package uploaded on pypi
On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 16:14, ast wrote: > > Hello > > I just uploaded a package on pypi, whose name is "arith_lib" > > The strange thing is that on pypi the package is renamed "arith-lib" > The underscore is substitued with a dash The version with a dash is the normalised form of the name - see https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0503/#normalized-names Paul -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
dash/underscore on name of package uploaded on pypi
Hello I just uploaded a package on pypi, whose name is "arith_lib" The strange thing is that on pypi the package is renamed "arith-lib" The underscore is substitued with a dash If we search for this package: pip search arith arith-lib (2.0.0) - A set of functions for miscellaneous arithmetic (so a dash) For installation both: pip install -U arith_lib pip install -U arith-lib are working well and in both case I got a directory with an underscore C:\Program Files\Python36-32\Lib\site-packages 28/02/2019 16:57 arith_lib 28/02/2019 16:57 arith_lib-2.0.0.dist-info What happens ? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
