is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
I don't know to which forum should I post the message I hope someone related to the Python kernel development will read & consider the idea I'm (a former? meanwhile not sure) MATLAB user & it's very annoing typing each time for example while i: print i ... instead of while i print i ... of course if all is written in a single line ':' I guess should not be omited Thank you for you suggestions. Sorry my bad English. WBR, Dmitrey -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know to which forum should I post the message > I hope someone related to the Python kernel development will read & > consider the idea > I'm (a former? meanwhile not sure) MATLAB user & it's very annoing > typing each time for example > while i: > print i > ... > instead of > while i > print i > ... > of course if all is written in a single line ':' I guess should not be > omited Won't happen. There have been plenty of discussions about this, and while technically not necessary, the colon is usually considered "optically pleasing". So - it will stay. See - one of a bazillion - discussions here: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/d3784563657ad18b/35581ad9698e28f5?lnk=st&q=python+colon+remove&rnum=1#35581ad9698e28f5 Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
On Feb 22, 9:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know to which forum should I post the message > I hope someone related to the Python kernel development will read & > consider the idea > I'm (a former? meanwhile not sure) MATLAB user & it's very annoing > typing each time for example > while i: > print i > ... > instead of > while i > print i > ... > of course if all is written in a single line ':' I guess should not be > omited > > Thank you for you suggestions. > Sorry my bad English. > > WBR, Dmitrey Think on the bright side: you have to type ":" at the beginning of loop and conditional blocks, but you don't have to type "end" at the end... you are still saving two strokes... ;-)) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
On 22 Feb, 11:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know to which forum should I post the message > I hope someone related to the Python kernel development will read & > consider the idea > I'm (a former? meanwhile not sure) MATLAB user & it's very annoing > typing each time for example > while i: > print i > ... > instead of > while i > print i > ... > of course if all is written in a single line ':' I guess should not be > omited > > Thank you for you suggestions. > Sorry my bad English. > > WBR, Dmitrey Hi Just a thought... I've also just made the jump from Matlab to Python (or am straddling the two at the moment!) and I find the ':' really useful for delimiting blocks of code. Took a while to get used to it but I reckon it helps me explain my code to non-programmers as they can see the blocks I use. Al -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
> Think on the bright side:
>
> you have to type ":" at the beginning of loop and conditional blocks,
> but you don't have to type "end" at the end... you are still saving
> two strokes...
> ;-))
No, there no profits:
instead of 'end' I must type , ':' and backspace in the end of
block - so 3 keypress are used, same as 'end'
Of course Python is much more better in syntax vs C/C++ but I would
prefere tcl-style or caml-style
x = fun arg1 arg2 ... argn
however, in tcl annoing things are 'set' and 'expr'
and in ocaml '<-' and 'let x = ... in' - too many keypress instead of
'='
but their func calls still is better then fun(arg1, arg2, ..., argn)
and help _something_ or which _something_ in MATLAB is much more
better then help(_something_) in Python
the only bad thing in MATLAB (+absence of x = fun arg1 arg2 ... argn
call) is indexing arrays by () instead of [] - holding shift key
dozens times per day is very unconvinient.
And in Python vs MATLAB is very unconvinient arrays creation.
I'm very afraid of proposition that I noticed at
http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode
Base multidimensional array type for Python core
Student: KarolLangner
Mentor: Travis E. Oliphant
I don't know about anyone mentioned but I'm not sure this is a good
idea to hire ordinary student for such important thing.
And writing 'dimarray(...)' dozens times per day is much more bad than
x = matrix('...'), x = array([...]) or, of course, MATLAB-style x = [1
2 3]
I guess it should 10 times more think about the array and make it once
and forever - Python already has some array-related classes and all
with syntax much more bad than MATLAB. I guess there should be only 2
types: one for storing data in convinient way without reallocating
(something like C++ STL vector<>) and one for quick calculations
(something like C++ valarray).
WBR, Dmitrey.
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Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know to which forum should I post the message > I hope someone related to the Python kernel development will read & > consider the idea > I'm (a former? meanwhile not sure) MATLAB user & it's very annoing > typing each time for example > while i: > print i > ... > instead of > while i > print i > ... > of course if all is written in a single line ':' I guess should not be > omited > > Thank you for you suggestions. > Sorry my bad English. > > WBR, Dmitrey > Its a compromise in that python has way-less of this kind of cruft than a lot of other languages. James -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
Tip: don't try learning perl. I agree the colon is largely redundant, but it's not unreasonable. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is it possible to remove the ':' symbol in the end of lines starting with 'if', 'while' etc?
On 2007-02-22, tac-tics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tip: don't try learning perl. > > I agree the colon is largely redundant, but it's not > unreasonable. A certain amount of redundancy in languages (artificial or natrual) is a good thing. It makes error detection and correction far easier. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... I think I'm at having an overnight visi.comsensation right now!! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
