Re: nospam ** infinity?
Skip Montanaro wrote: >> I'm 99.5% certain it's not gate_news. > > A funny thing. All messages I have looked at so far with the "nospam" > thing have a Message-ID from binkp.net. (They are also all Usenet > posts.) For example: > > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: I have anaconda, but Pycharm can't find it > Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:40:00 +1200 > Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.geek.nz > Message-ID: <1783215...@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Any ideas how to investigate further? Try to contact them, or, more likely him. They seem to be into retro-computing, and there is a line X-MailConverter: SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 According to http://software.tomsweb.net/soupgate.html development of that software ended around 2000. There is a bugfix """ * Fixed bug in SoupGate that would cause hosted mailing list messages and commands to be processed normally even if they were detected as being junk mail; this could cause quite an interesting game of virtual tennis between SoupGate and "Mail Delivery Subsystem"... """ While not exactly the same, "virtual tennis" seems to be a good description of what we see now, only 17 years later... -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
On 28/11/2017 10:17, Thomas Jollans wrote: On 2017-11-28 02:14, Skip Montanaro wrote: I'm 99.5% certain it's not gate_news. A funny thing. All messages I have looked at so far with the "nospam" thing have a Message-ID from binkp.net. (They are also all Usenet posts.) For example: Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: I have anaconda, but Pycharm can't find it Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:40:00 +1200 Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.geek.nz Message-ID: <1783215...@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Any ideas how to investigate further? No, but with this information they should be relatively easy to filter out at the mail/news boundary, right? (It's not ideal, I know) I've just added a block with a regex; they seem to come in batches, so I won't know until the next batch arrives whether I've been successful. TJG -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:14:51 AM UTC, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > I'm 99.5% certain it's not gate_news. > > A funny thing. All messages I have looked at so far with the "nospam" > thing have a Message-ID from binkp.net. (They are also all Usenet > posts.) For example: > > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: I have anaconda, but Pycharm can't find it > Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:40:00 +1200 > Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.geek.nz > Message-ID: <1783215...@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Any ideas how to investigate further? Sorry, hardly my area of expertise :-( > > Skip If it's any help there's now a message on the announce list/group subject "TatSu v4.2.5. released" with a nospam entry. -- Kindest regards. Mark Lawrence. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
On 2017-11-28 02:14, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> I'm 99.5% certain it's not gate_news. > > A funny thing. All messages I have looked at so far with the "nospam" > thing have a Message-ID from binkp.net. (They are also all Usenet > posts.) For example: > > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: I have anaconda, but Pycharm can't find it > Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:40:00 +1200 > Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.geek.nz > Message-ID: <1783215...@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Any ideas how to investigate further? No, but with this information they should be relatively easy to filter out at the mail/news boundary, right? (It's not ideal, I know) -- Thomas Jollans -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
> I'm 99.5% certain it's not gate_news. A funny thing. All messages I have looked at so far with the "nospam" thing have a Message-ID from binkp.net. (They are also all Usenet posts.) For example: Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: I have anaconda, but Pycharm can't find it Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:40:00 +1200 Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.geek.nz Message-ID: <1783215...@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Any ideas how to investigate further? Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
>> Newsreader configuration problem? > > More likely, someone was trying to obscure the email addresses, but managed to > tag my name instead. Definitely looks like some sort of automation failure. > The > only question is, whose? If it's not from gate_news, there's someone here on > the list/ng that is (probably accidentally) reposting everything. I'm 99.5% certain it's not gate_news. It's always been running. The only thing Mark and I changed was to get SpamBayes running again as part of gate_news. Its only effect on a message is to add relevant headers (typically X-Spam-Evidence and X-Spam-Status). It never modifies existing headers. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
nospam ** infinity?
There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s prepended to the email address. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. >> I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in >> comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s >> prepended to the email address. > > This is the second thread about this. I was thinking it might be > related to recent changes to the gate_news process on mail.python.org, > but this fingerprint looks nothing like what gate_news does. > > Looking at a somewhat long-ish thread: > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.lang.python/YoxLtkzlt_o/discussion > > I see a couple posts from Chris Angelico, only some of which have a > "nospam" preface. It would seem that someone was trying to mark > certain posters as "not spammy," (I'm sure Chris is flattered) and > somehow posts with that private marking leaked out of the user's > system starting in the past twelve hours or so. > > Newsreader configuration problem? More likely, someone was trying to obscure the email addresses, but managed to tag my name instead. Definitely looks like some sort of automation failure. The only question is, whose? If it's not from gate_news, there's someone here on the list/ng that is (probably accidentally) reposting everything. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
> There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. > I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in > comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s > prepended to the email address. This is the second thread about this. I was thinking it might be related to recent changes to the gate_news process on mail.python.org, but this fingerprint looks nothing like what gate_news does. Looking at a somewhat long-ish thread: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.lang.python/YoxLtkzlt_o/discussion I see a couple posts from Chris Angelico, only some of which have a "nospam" preface. It would seem that someone was trying to mark certain posters as "not spammy," (I'm sure Chris is flattered) and somehow posts with that private marking leaked out of the user's system starting in the past twelve hours or so. Newsreader configuration problem? Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 1:19:38 AM UTC, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > >> There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. > >> I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in > >> comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s > >> prepended to the email address. > > > > This is the second thread about this. I was thinking it might be > > related to recent changes to the gate_news process on mail.python.org, > > but this fingerprint looks nothing like what gate_news does. > > > > Looking at a somewhat long-ish thread: > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.lang.python/YoxLtkzlt_o/discussion > > > > I see a couple posts from Chris Angelico, only some of which have a > > "nospam" preface. It would seem that someone was trying to mark > > certain posters as "not spammy," (I'm sure Chris is flattered) and > > somehow posts with that private marking leaked out of the user's > > system starting in the past twelve hours or so. > > > > Newsreader configuration problem? > > More likely, someone was trying to obscure the email addresses, but > managed to tag my name instead. Definitely looks like some sort of > automation failure. The only question is, whose? If it's not from > gate_news, there's someone here on the list/ng that is (probably > accidentally) reposting everything. > > ChrisA I suspect that it's a big own goal as even stuff from the RUE is getting through. -- Kindest regards. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. >> I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in >> comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s >> prepended to the email address. > > This is the second thread about this. I was thinking it might be > related to recent changes to the gate_news process on mail.python.org, > but this fingerprint looks nothing like what gate_news does. > > Looking at a somewhat long-ish thread: > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.lang.python/YoxLtkzlt_o/discussion > > I see a couple posts from Chris Angelico, only some of which have a > "nospam" preface. It would seem that someone was trying to mark > certain posters as "not spammy," (I'm sure Chris is flattered) and > somehow posts with that private marking leaked out of the user's > system starting in the past twelve hours or so. > > Newsreader configuration problem? More likely, someone was trying to obscure the email addresses, but managed to tag my name instead. Definitely looks like some sort of automation failure. The only question is, whose? If it's not from gate_news, there's someone here on the list/ng that is (probably accidentally) reposting everything. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nospam ** infinity?
> There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. > I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in > comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s > prepended to the email address. This is the second thread about this. I was thinking it might be related to recent changes to the gate_news process on mail.python.org, but this fingerprint looks nothing like what gate_news does. Looking at a somewhat long-ish thread: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.lang.python/YoxLtkzlt_o/discussion I see a couple posts from Chris Angelico, only some of which have a "nospam" preface. It would seem that someone was trying to mark certain posters as "not spammy," (I'm sure Chris is flattered) and somehow posts with that private marking leaked out of the user's system starting in the past twelve hours or so. Newsreader configuration problem? Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
nospam ** infinity?
There seems to be a gateway loop of some sort going on. I'm seeing multiple versions of the same posts in comp.lang.python with different numbers of "nospam"s prepended to the email address. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
