Re: packaging and installing

[Godson Gera]

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Brian Blais  wrote:

>  On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Godson Gera wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Brian Blais  wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was wondering if there is any standard or suggested way of installing
> packages *without* going to the commandline.  I often have students who,
> from there experience in Windows, have never looked at the commandline
> before and it is a bit of a challenge to get them to install something (i.e.
> go to the commandline, cd over to the proper folder, type python setup.py
> install, etc...).  I've never seen a package with something like a
> "compileme.bat", but was wondering if there is some suggested way of doing
> this or some reasons *not* to do this.  I can always write my own (1-line)
> .bat file, but I didn't want to reinvent the wheel.  Perhaps there is a
> better way for me to do this, ideally in a platform independent way.
> >>
> > You don't even have to write a bat file. Python's distutils package
> allows you to build exe file which creates generic windows wizard window for
> installing packages.
> >
> > Take a look at distutils package
> http://docs.python.org/distutils/builtdist.html
> >
>
> that's very interesting, and I didn't realize that.  it may be useful, and
> solves part of my problem, but the other part is that I am not on a windows
> machine and have to distribute to windows users.  Or perhaps I am on
> windows, and need to distribute to Mac.  It's great that python itself is so
> cross-platform, but the installation process for packages seems a lot less
> so.
>
> Don't blame python for that. command line is least command denominator
across all platforms and you don't wanted your audience to visit command
line. As of 2010 you have to be on specific platform to make distributions
for that platform. This kind of asking for toomuch from a few MB sized
python. You need to make your own python distro to support all platform
specific(exe, msi, ELF, app, rpm, deb  etc etc ) packaing in one
installation whose size may swell over many MBs

or resort back to wiriting batch file on windows and bash and sh scripts on
*nix platforms.
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Re: packaging and installing

[Brian Blais]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Godson Gera wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Brian Blais  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I was wondering if there is any standard or suggested way of installing 
>> packages *without* going to the commandline.  I often have students who, 
>> from there experience in Windows, have never looked at the commandline 
>> before and it is a bit of a challenge to get them to install something (i.e. 
>> go to the commandline, cd over to the proper folder, type python setup.py 
>> install, etc...).  I've never seen a package with something like a 
>> "compileme.bat", but was wondering if there is some suggested way of doing 
>> this or some reasons *not* to do this.  I can always write my own (1-line) 
>> .bat file, but I didn't want to reinvent the wheel.  Perhaps there is a 
>> better way for me to do this, ideally in a platform independent way.
>> 
> You don't even have to write a bat file. Python's distutils package allows 
> you to build exe file which creates generic windows wizard window for 
> installing packages. 
> 
> Take a look at distutils package 
> http://docs.python.org/distutils/builtdist.html
> 

that's very interesting, and I didn't realize that.  it may be useful, and 
solves part of my problem, but the other part is that I am not on a windows 
machine and have to distribute to windows users.  Or perhaps I am on windows, 
and need to distribute to Mac.  It's great that python itself is so 
cross-platform, but the installation process for packages seems a lot less so. 


thanks,

bb


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Re: packaging and installing

[Godson Gera]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Brian Blais  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if there is any standard or suggested way of installing
> packages *without* going to the commandline.  I often have students who,
> from there experience in Windows, have never looked at the commandline
> before and it is a bit of a challenge to get them to install something (i.e.
> go to the commandline, cd over to the proper folder, type python setup.py
> install, etc...).  I've never seen a package with something like a
> "compileme.bat", but was wondering if there is some suggested way of doing
> this or some reasons *not* to do this.  I can always write my own (1-line)
> .bat file, but I didn't want to reinvent the wheel.  Perhaps there is a
> better way for me to do this, ideally in a platform independent way.
>

You don't even have to write a bat file. Python's distutils package allows
you to build exe file which creates generic windows wizard window for
installing packages.

Take a look at distutils package
http://docs.python.org/distutils/builtdist.html

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packaging and installing

[Brian Blais]

Hello,

I was wondering if there is any standard or suggested way of installing 
packages *without* going to the commandline.  I often have students who, from 
there experience in Windows, have never looked at the commandline before and it 
is a bit of a challenge to get them to install something (i.e. go to the 
commandline, cd over to the proper folder, type python setup.py install, 
etc...).  I've never seen a package with something like a "compileme.bat", but 
was wondering if there is some suggested way of doing this or some reasons 
*not* to do this.  I can always write my own (1-line) .bat file, but I didn't 
want to reinvent the wheel.  Perhaps there is a better way for me to do this, 
ideally in a platform independent way.  


thanks,

Brian Blais

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