Re: problem on top-post
In mailman.13027.1408076249.18130.python-l...@python.org Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: Bottom-post usually refers to the inferior practice of quoting a message (entirely or large amounts) and then indiscriminately responding to all of it below all of the quoted text. I was unaware of that meaning. -- John Gordon Imagine what it must be like for a real medical doctor to gor...@panix.comwatch 'House', or a real serial killer to watch 'Dexter'. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
problem on top-post
when i search what top-post mean: *top-post*: n., v. [common] To put the newly-added portion of an email or Usenet response before the quoted part, as opposed to the more logical sequence of quoted portion first with original following. *bottom-post*: v.In a news or mail reply, to put the response to a news or email message after the quoted content from the parent message. This is correct form, and until around 2000 was so universal on the Internet that neither the term ‘bottom-post’ nor its antonym /top-post/ http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html existed. Hackers consider that the best practice is actually to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message, then intersperse the poster's response in such a way that each section of response appears directly after the excerpt it applies to. This reduces message bulk, keeps thread content in a logical order, and facilitates reading. the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: problem on top-post
On 15Aug2014 09:47, luofeiyu elearn2...@gmail.com wrote: when i search what top-post mean: top-post: n., v. [common] To put the newly-added portion of an email or Usenet response before the quoted part, as opposed to the more logical sequence of quoted portion first with original following. bottom-post: v. In a news or mail reply, to put the response to a news or [...] existed. Hackers consider that the best practice is actually to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message, then intersperse the poster's response in such a way that each section of response appears directly after the excerpt it applies to. [...] the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right? Generally, yes. It is what we try to use in this list, and applies in most technical forums. It makes replies read like a conversation, too. Thanks, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au Shape without form, shade without colour, Paralysed force, gesture without motion;- T.S. Eliot, _The Hollow Men_ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: problem on top-post
In mailman.13017.1408067250.18130.python-l...@python.org luofeiyu elearn2...@gmail.com writes: the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right? The followup text appears underneath the quoted parent message, thus bottom-post. -- John Gordon Imagine what it must be like for a real medical doctor to gor...@panix.comwatch 'House', or a real serial killer to watch 'Dexter'. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: problem on top-post
luofeiyu elearn2...@gmail.com writes: the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right? Correct; you should also interleave your responses in the context of the relevant quoted material. See at the link I provided for this style URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style. Thanks for endeavouring to learn good communications etiquette. -- \“I was in Las Vegas, at the roulette table, having a furious | `\ argument over what I considered to be an odd number.” —Steven | _o__) Wright | Ben Finney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: problem on top-post
John Gordon gor...@panix.com writes: In mailman.13017.1408067250.18130.python-l...@python.org luofeiyu elearn2...@gmail.com writes: the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right? The followup text appears underneath the quoted parent message, thus bottom-post. “Bottom-post” usually refers to the inferior practice of quoting a message (entirely or large amounts) and then indiscriminately responding to all of it below all of the quoted text. The preferred style is “interleaved”, where responses are interleaved among the relevant parts of quoted material. Each response appears below only the relevant part. So no, the responses should not appear below the quoted *message*, but below the relevant *part* of the quoted material, followed potentially by more relevant quoted material and responses to those. (We agree that there should be no quoted material after all of your own responses; if you're not following quoted material with a relevant response, that part of the quoted material should be removed in your message.) With only a small, single point to respond to, the recommended “interleaved” style is identical to “bottom post” — in this message, for example. But “bottom post” is not preferred when there are multiple responses to multiple points, by one person or several. The “interleaved” style is the recommended etiquette. -- \ “The lift is being fixed for the day. During that time we | `\regret that you will be unbearable.” —hotel, Bucharest | _o__) | Ben Finney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
