Re: stackoverflow and c.l.py (was: GIL switch interval)
Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: Matt Joiner, 14.09.2011 04:23: i'm curious as to what can be done with (and handled better) by adjusting sys.setswitchinterval i've opened a question on SO for this, that people might find of interest: http://stackoverflow.com[...] I wonder why people ask this kind of question on stackoverflow, and then come here asking people to go over there, read the question, and (potentially) provide an answer. IMHO, c.l.py is a much better place to ask Python(-related) questions than stackoverflow. It's also a much better place to search for an answer that is already available in the archives. If you want an answer to how to get a specific bit of code to work then Stackoverflow is better if only because people can see who has already answered so don't need to waste time re-answering every trivial little question about syntax. Also there's a theory that people can search for existing answers so only one person in the class has to ask how to do their homework. I've never actually asked a question on Stackoverflow but I have found the answers to a lot of problems I've had. If you want an open-ended discussion then c.l.py is the place to go. On Stackoverflow you would likely just have the question closed pdq. -- Duncan Booth http://kupuguy.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stackoverflow and c.l.py (was: GIL switch interval)
In article Xns9F605E618E6B1duncanbooth@127.0.0.1, Duncan Booth duncan.booth@invalid.invalid wrote: If you want an answer to how to get a specific bit of code to work then Stackoverflow is better if only because people can see who has already answered so don't need to waste time re-answering every trivial little question about syntax. Any halfway decent newsreader application will follow threading and put all the responses to a given question in one place. Of course, this is a relatively new feature. If your newsreader is any older than about the mid 1980's, it may not be able to do this. In article mailman.1100.1315973589.27778.python-l...@python.org, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: I wonder why people ask this kind of question on stackoverflow, and then come here asking people to go over there, read the question, and (potentially) provide an answer. If you ask here you will probably get the correct answer to your question (along with some deep dives into related topics, which are often more valuable than the original answer). If you ask on SO, you may also get the correct answer, but in addition you will earn SO karma points. Maybe even some neat badge. I guess it all depends on what your goal is. Obligatory GIL comment -- I wrote some code the other day that used 4 threads to perform 4 I/O bound operations (fetching 4 jpegs in parallel over http). I figured the fact that they were I/O bound would avoid any GIL problems. I was shocked and dismayed, however, to find that the 4 operations all got serialized. I guess I really didn't understand how the GIL worked after all. So, I rewrote it to use the multiprocessing module. Egads, still serialized! To make a long story short, it turns out we were using some crappy consumer-grade Linksys box as our DNS server, and *it* was single threaded. My 4 threads were blocking on name resolution! We moved to using a real nameserver, and I converted the code back to using threading. Works like a charm now. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stackoverflow and c.l.py (was: GIL switch interval)
Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: In article Xns9F605E618E6B1duncanbooth@127.0.0.1, Duncan Booth duncan.booth@invalid.invalid wrote: If you want an answer to how to get a specific bit of code to work then Stackoverflow is better if only because people can see who has already answered so don't need to waste time re-answering every trivial little question about syntax. Any halfway decent newsreader application will follow threading and put all the responses to a given question in one place. Of course, this is a relatively new feature. If your newsreader is any older than about the mid 1980's, it may not be able to do this. Sorry, I evidently didn't make myself clear. On Usenet it could be hours before your local server updates with other posts on the thread, on Stackoverflow the answers will update live as they are posted. -- Duncan Booth http://kupuguy.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
stackoverflow and c.l.py (was: GIL switch interval)
Matt Joiner, 14.09.2011 04:23: i'm curious as to what can be done with (and handled better) by adjusting sys.setswitchinterval i've opened a question on SO for this, that people might find of interest: http://stackoverflow.com[...] I wonder why people ask this kind of question on stackoverflow, and then come here asking people to go over there, read the question, and (potentially) provide an answer. IMHO, c.l.py is a much better place to ask Python(-related) questions than stackoverflow. It's also a much better place to search for an answer that is already available in the archives. Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stackoverflow and c.l.py (was: GIL switch interval)
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:12 pm Stefan Behnel wrote: Matt Joiner, 14.09.2011 04:23: i'm curious as to what can be done with (and handled better) by adjusting sys.setswitchinterval i've opened a question on SO for this, that people might find of interest: http://stackoverflow.com[...] I wonder why people ask this kind of question on stackoverflow, and then come here asking people to go over there, read the question, and (potentially) provide an answer. You should post that question on stackoverflow, and ask them to reply here. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
