Re: text editor suggestion?
John Salerno wrote: > Ravi Teja wrote: > > > ??? > > > > In the same file, near the top. > > > > keywordclass.python=and assert break class continue def del elif \ > > else except exec finally for from global if import in is lambda None \ > > not or pass print raise return try while yield > > > > I could add my own keywords to it. > > > > But I don't want all my keywords to be highlighted in the same way. I > have different colors for Python keywords, functions and methods, > exceptions, other words like 'self', etc. and there's no way to do this > without rewriting the lexer file (which is in C++) and recompiling Scite > to build the changes into it. I don't know if SciTE somehow supports function highlighting but the properties file for php will perhaps give you some ideas on having seperate groups with different highlight properties. I recall repurposing something similar when I used to use Spyce for web apps. http://mailman.lyra.org/pipermail/scite-interest/attachments/20050912/c9d5e51b/html-0001.obj -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Ravi Teja wrote: > ??? > > In the same file, near the top. > > keywordclass.python=and assert break class continue def del elif \ > else except exec finally for from global if import in is lambda None \ > not or pass print raise return try while yield > > I could add my own keywords to it. > But I don't want all my keywords to be highlighted in the same way. I have different colors for Python keywords, functions and methods, exceptions, other words like 'self', etc. and there's no way to do this without rewriting the lexer file (which is in C++) and recompiling Scite to build the changes into it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > Ravi Teja wrote: > > > Stick to SciTE. It takes almost no learning effort and meets everyone > > of those requirements. As far as customerization goes, SciTE can be > > customerized quite well. In fact, it can even be scripted with Lua. You > > seem to be using the single file executable which does not come with > > the configuration files. Otherwise, I cannot see how you could be > > missing this ability. > > I really like Scite, but I find it's syntax highlighting abilities to be > quite limited. You can't specify your own groups of words, you can only > use what is already preset in the lexer files. ??? In the same file, near the top. keywordclass.python=and assert break class continue def del elif \ else except exec finally for from global if import in is lambda None \ not or pass print raise return try while yield I could add my own keywords to it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Ravi Teja wrote: > Stick to SciTE. It takes almost no learning effort and meets everyone > of those requirements. As far as customerization goes, SciTE can be > customerized quite well. In fact, it can even be scripted with Lua. You > seem to be using the single file executable which does not come with > the configuration files. Otherwise, I cannot see how you could be > missing this ability. I really like Scite, but I find it's syntax highlighting abilities to be quite limited. You can't specify your own groups of words, you can only use what is already preset in the lexer files. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote:
>
> The thing I liked about UltraEdit is that you can define your own groups
> of words and put whatever words you want in there, so my file had a
> group called '__builtins__' and it listed all the Python built-in
> methods, and those would be highlighted. Most editors I see don't seem
> to allow this...they just figure out what a function or method is on
> their own somehow.
In vim, you can just put "let python_highlight_builtins=1" in your
.vimrc for this particular example (other python syntax settings
include python_highlight_numbers, python_highlight_space_errors,
python_highlight_exceptions).
Use python_highlight_all to turn them all on.
To do it by hand and have it automatically come on in all .py buffers,
you could do:
au BufEnter *.py syntax keyword pythonFunction abs apply basestring
bool
au BufEnter *.py syntax keyword pythonFunction buffer callable chr
etc. Put as many as you want on one line. Use other syntax groups if
you want them highlighted as something other than functions.
Or, with vim's builtin python interpreter you could grab the list of
builtins directly, for instance have this in your vimrc:
pyf ~/.vim/vimrc.py
And have this in ~/.vim/vimrc.py:
import vim
# Might want to trim out exceptions/leading underscores/etc from
this...
builtins = ' '.join( [ b for b in dir(__builtins__)] )
vim.command('au BufEnter *.py syn keyword pythonFunction '+builtins)
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> I also just started using Scite, and I really like it, except I find its > syntax highlighting to be very inflexible. You aren't able to define > your own groups of words -- you have to use what's given, basically. One > thing I like about UltraEdit is that you simply define as many groups of > keywords as you want and then assign a style to each one. Scite has a > very strange and rigid method of highlighting. Stick to SciTE. It takes almost no learning effort and meets everyone of those requirements. As far as customerization goes, SciTE can be customerized quite well. In fact, it can even be scripted with Lua. You seem to be using the single file executable which does not come with the configuration files. Otherwise, I cannot see how you could be missing this ability. Try this one instead if you are on Windows. http://gisdeveloper.tripod.com/scite.html You need to edit the file python.properties to add keywords. Windows - C:\Program Files\SciTe\python.properties Debian - /usr/share/scite/python.properties -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > The thing I liked about UltraEdit is that you can define your own > groups of words and put whatever words you want in there, so my > file had a group called '__builtins__' and it listed all the Python > built-in methods, and those would be highlighted. Most editors I > see don't seem to allow this... The Zeus IDE uses this exact same approach but takes it one step further by allowing you to encapsulate all this information inside a document type: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176 But alas Zeus is a Windows only editor. Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus for Windows IDE http://www.zeusedit.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:59:49AM EDT, Roberto Bonvallet wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > > I'd really like to learn vim, but I spent days just trying to figure out > > how to get the syntax highlighting and indentation working, where these > > settings are and how to edit them, and it still doesn't work for me. It > > just feels so insurmountable that I can't even start working with it yet > > because I don't know how to tailor the settings. > > Create a vimrc file (if you use Unix: ~/.vimrc) with the following lines in > it: > > syntax on > set autoindent > set smartindent > > If you find that using vim is hard, try using evim (easy vim). It is part > of the standard vim distribution (actually it's the same program). Anyway, > I suggest learning the classic modal vim, it's really worth it. I'm not sure anyone else mentioned it. One additional feature of Vim that you soon will appreciate is that you get high quality (and timely) support from very knowledgeable users on the vim@vim.org mailing list. I am unsure whether simpler editors provide this type of thing. As to creating one's own color schemes .. there are hundreds that can be downloaded and installed in a matter of minutes and they're likely much better than what I would be able to come up with. Some people are just good at this kind of stuff and I'm not one of 'em. :-) So, I tried out the ones that looked nice .. selected a few that I liked more than the others .. and changed a few things that didn't suit me to create my own modified versions of the originals. Thanks cga -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > Sybren Stuvel wrote: > > John Salerno enlightened us with: > >> But what about customizing syntax coloring? Is this also in the same > >> file? I've noticed a separate file called python.vim (in Windows, > >> this file exists in a 'syntax' folder, and also another file of the > >> same name in an 'indent' folder, so I'm *still* confused about which > >> files are used for which settings. > > > > And you're also confused about what things are settings and what > > aren't. > > No, my point was just that there are more files needed than just the > .vimrc file if you want to do some extra customization. I'd like to > change the syntax highlighting to specific colors for each group of > keywords, and you can't do that in the settings file. You can do all your color schemes/syntax highlighting changes in the .vimrc file. People normally split them out and :source other files to keep things tidy, and there are some ways (plugins) to package things up nicely to distribute to others, but fundamentally it's all just vim commands and putting everything in the .vimrc is perfectly fine. E.g. if I want to change it so that identifiers are in another color from the default I just add: :highlight Identifier guifg=DarkSlateGrey to the .vimrc (or change ctermfg to a terminal color to change the colors in non-gui vim) > I'm not even sure > you can do that at all, or if you have to settle for pre-made color > schemes. I haven't looked into how difficult it is to make your own > color scheme. It's easy. You just use a bunch of highlight statements like the above. There are examples in the vim runtime directory. You can try them out with a simple: :colorscheme koehler :colorscheme desert :colorscheme default etc. > (And does vim support bold text?) If your terminal supports it, yeah. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Sybren Stuvel wrote: > John Salerno enlightened us with: >> But what about customizing syntax coloring? Is this also in the same >> file? I've noticed a separate file called python.vim (in Windows, >> this file exists in a 'syntax' folder, and also another file of the >> same name in an 'indent' folder, so I'm *still* confused about which >> files are used for which settings. > > And you're also confused about what things are settings and what > aren't. No, my point was just that there are more files needed than just the .vimrc file if you want to do some extra customization. I'd like to change the syntax highlighting to specific colors for each group of keywords, and you can't do that in the settings file. I'm not even sure you can do that at all, or if you have to settle for pre-made color schemes. I haven't looked into how difficult it is to make your own color scheme. (And does vim support bold text?) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > I'd really like to learn vim, but I spent days just trying to figure out > how to get the syntax highlighting and indentation working, where these > settings are and how to edit them, and it still doesn't work for me. It > just feels so insurmountable that I can't even start working with it yet > because I don't know how to tailor the settings. Create a vimrc file (if you use Unix: ~/.vimrc) with the following lines in it: syntax on set autoindent set smartindent If you find that using vim is hard, try using evim (easy vim). It is part of the standard vim distribution (actually it's the same program). Anyway, I suggest learning the classic modal vim, it's really worth it. -- Roberto Bonvallet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:06:15 -0400, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: > >> The two big names in text editing, Vim and Emacs, will both meet these >> criteria easily. They also have the advantage that you'll find one or >> the other, or both, on just about any Unix system intended for use by >> a programmer. And they're installable on Windows, and they will be ported to anything you're likely to encounter, for the rest of your life. >> There is also an enormous amount of support for both these editors, >> for all manner of text editing tasks, available online. It's a good >> idea to learn at least one of them very well, rather than learn a >> bunch of less-popular editors for specific tasks. That's an important point, IMHO. At least if you're living in Unix, plain old text editing is one of the most common tasks you do, and you rarely end up in situations where you're forced to use domain-specific editors (except when using web applications, where you are often limited to the text editing facilities of your web browser). I usually don't like the idea of becoming addicted to one simgle program, but I make an exception for text editing. I'm so much more productive in emacs than anywhere else, and the things I learn while (say) programming in Python translate directly to writing documentation, writing C code, or massaging and browsing large data sets. > I'd really like to learn vim, but I spent days just trying to figure out > how to get the syntax highlighting and indentation working, where these > settings are and how to edit them, and it still doesn't work for me. That's to be expected, and to be honest, you'd have the same problem with the editor I'd suggest, emacs. I've accepted that there are huge areas of emacs that I don't know and which would be useful to me if I had known them. It took almost ten years to discover dabbrev-expand, and I only found out about open-rectangle last week. And noone can tell me /which/ features I'm missing, because everyone uses their editor in a different way. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a > few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's > Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. > > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) > > That's pretty much all I need. It's nice when you can customize a bunch > of other stuff too, but those are the most important. > > I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn > how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to > mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document > sometimes). Vim is rather nice once you know it, but i can understand that not everyone has the time to learn it. There is Cream[1] which is supposed to be a more modern configuration of VIM. I also remember using JED[2] for a while, but i can't remember the features of it well, so i can't say if they fullfill your requirements or not. [1] http://cream.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.jedsoft.org/jed/ -- setrodox -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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milosz wrote: > Did you try gedit? > It has an options, which you need, I think. > Regards. > Yes, I tried it and it's alright, but it doesn't support smart indentation or much customizing of syntax highlighting (i.e. you can change the color of functions, but you can't define what a 'function' is, or at least I have no idea where this can be done). It seems like what most editors do is highlight user-defined functions as they are defined, so: def func() 'func' would be highlighted here, but not when you call it elsewhere in your script. Furthermore, there isn't support for built-in Python functions and methods. The thing I liked about UltraEdit is that you can define your own groups of words and put whatever words you want in there, so my file had a group called '__builtins__' and it listed all the Python built-in methods, and those would be highlighted. Most editors I see don't seem to allow this...they just figure out what a function or method is on their own somehow. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Sybren Stuvel wrote: > John Salerno enlightened us with: >> I'd really like to learn vim, but I spent days just trying to figure >> out how to get the syntax highlighting and indentation working, >> where these settings are and how to edit them > > Stop being a man and just ask for directions :) Oh don't worry, I have no shame. I was asking a ton of questions, yet I still couldn't figure it out. > >> It just feels so insurmountable that I can't even start working with >> it yet because I don't know how to tailor the settings. > > "vim ~/.vimrc" is all you need on any system but Windows. There IIRC > you need to edit C:\Program Files\VIM\_vimrc. But what about customizing syntax coloring? Is this also in the same file? I've noticed a separate file called python.vim (in Windows, this file exists in a 'syntax' folder, and also another file of the same name in an 'indent' folder, so I'm *still* confused about which files are used for which settings. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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* John Salerno (2006-08-19 02:20 +0100) > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a > few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's > Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. > > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) EditPad Pro - runs perfectly under Wine http://www.editpadpro.com/convenience.html http://www.editpadpro.com/wine.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Did you try gedit? It has an options, which you need, I think. Regards. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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http://scribes.sourceforge.net/ Flash Demo: http://scribes.sourceforge.net/snippets.htm GIF Demo: http://www.minds.may.ie/~dez/images/blog/scribes.html Scribes is simple, slim, sleek and fast. It has no learning curve and conveys a no nonsense approach to text editing. You won't need to edit configuration files in lisp, read manuals or sacrifice your unborn grand daugther to the geek goddesses. It's also written in Python. Some people have described it as TextMate for Linux. Version 0.3 will be released in few days and will feature - remote editing - a document browser to show all files opened by the editor - recent files menu - more steriods... John Salerno wrote: > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a > few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's > Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. > > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) > > That's pretty much all I need. It's nice when you can customize a bunch > of other stuff too, but those are the most important. > > I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn > how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to > mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document > sometimes). > > I also just started using Scite, and I really like it, except I find its > syntax highlighting to be very inflexible. You aren't able to define > your own groups of words -- you have to use what's given, basically. One > thing I like about UltraEdit is that you simply define as many groups of > keywords as you want and then assign a style to each one. Scite has a > very strange and rigid method of highlighting. > > So hopefully some of you might have some suggestions. My requirements > are minimal, but I'm still not happy with the syntax highlighting I'm > seeing in a lot of editors out there. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a > few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's > Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. > > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) > > That's pretty much all I need. It's nice when you can customize a bunch > of other stuff too, but those are the most important. > > I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn > how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to > mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document > sometimes). > > I also just started using Scite, and I really like it, except I find its > syntax highlighting to be very inflexible. You aren't able to define > your own groups of words -- you have to use what's given, basically. One > thing I like about UltraEdit is that you simply define as many groups of > keywords as you want and then assign a style to each one. Scite has a > very strange and rigid method of highlighting. > > So hopefully some of you might have some suggestions. My requirements > are minimal, but I'm still not happy with the syntax highlighting I'm > seeing in a lot of editors out there. Emacs would be my choice. Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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>> Oh well, I'll just keep trying different ones. If you demand power and cross-platform compatibility, I think you already know your choices are Xemacs or Vim 7.0. They are both modal and therefore difficult to learn, at first, but later you enjoy the pleasures of interface Zen: http://tinyurl.com/osys2 rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > I'd really like to learn vim, but I spent days just trying to figure out > how to get the syntax highlighting and indentation working, where these > settings are and how to edit them, and it still doesn't work for me. It > just feels so insurmountable that I can't even start working with it yet > because I don't know how to tailor the settings. FWIW I started to use vim 2 years ago, and hated every minute of it. However, it was installed on every unix/linux box I have known, and so I gradually learned the most common commands. Recently I have been using gvim on windows, which comes pre-configured to syntax highlight etc. It isn't very good at running the current buffer as far as I can tell though, so I still have a command line open currently. jEdit is also a very good editor with the same sort of feature set as vim. Bit slower to load, but much more user freindly and a very powerful editor core. With a few extra plugins (console and Jython interpreter for example) it has all of the features you want, including he ability to write macros in python. (Note vim is also customisable using python). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Ben Finney wrote: > The two big names in text editing, Vim and Emacs, will both meet these > criteria easily. They also have the advantage that you'll find one or > the other, or both, on just about any Unix system intended for use by > a programmer. > > There is also an enormous amount of support for both these editors, > for all manner of text editing tasks, available online. It's a good > idea to learn at least one of them very well, rather than learn a > bunch of less-popular editors for specific tasks. > I'd really like to learn vim, but I spent days just trying to figure out how to get the syntax highlighting and indentation working, where these settings are and how to edit them, and it still doesn't work for me. It just feels so insurmountable that I can't even start working with it yet because I don't know how to tailor the settings. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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BartlebyScrivener wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > >> Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific >> question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. > > You got 65 answers last time :) > > http://tinyurl.com/rsfjq > > rd > Hmm, I forgot all about that. Although I think the few editors I tried recently was a result of that thread! I guess none of the suggestions worked out for me. Oh well, I'll just keep trying different ones. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. You got 65 answers last time :) http://tinyurl.com/rsfjq rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a > few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's > Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. > > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) > > That's pretty much all I need. It's nice when you can customize a bunch > of other stuff too, but those are the most important. > > I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn > how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to > mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document > sometimes). > > I also just started using Scite, and I really like it, except I find its > syntax highlighting to be very inflexible. You aren't able to define > your own groups of words -- you have to use what's given, basically. One > thing I like about UltraEdit is that you simply define as many groups of > keywords as you want and then assign a style to each one. Scite has a > very strange and rigid method of highlighting. > > So hopefully some of you might have some suggestions. My requirements > are minimal, but I'm still not happy with the syntax highlighting I'm > seeing in a lot of editors out there. I use Komodo, its a lil hard to find if you're looking to pay nothing, but its a great editor. it has all those things you're looking for. and you can customize the syntax languages for ones that aren't already included in the package...theres a free trial ..just try a google search -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Paul Rubin wrote: > "Simon Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Have you tried IDLE? It ships with python, meets your 5 criteria(*), > > can be customized (highlighting colors and command keys and more), and > > includes a usable GUI debugger. It's got some warts, but I like it a > > lot, it's pretty much all I use for my python coding. > > I use it too, but have never gotten the debugger to work reliably. I'm curious about what you mean? It doesn't do all I'd wish for, but I've never had any real problem with it. (It's bicyclerepairman I haven't been able to get working. lol) Peace, ~Simon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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http://www.american.edu/econ/notes/soft.htm#EDITORS has some relevant discussion and suggestions. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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"Simon Forman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Have you tried IDLE? It ships with python, meets your 5 criteria(*), > can be customized (highlighting colors and command keys and more), and > includes a usable GUI debugger. It's got some warts, but I like it a > lot, it's pretty much all I use for my python coding. I use it too, but have never gotten the debugger to work reliably. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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John Salerno wrote: > Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific > question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a > few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's > Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. > > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) > > That's pretty much all I need. It's nice when you can customize a bunch > of other stuff too, but those are the most important. > > I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn > how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to > mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document > sometimes). > > I also just started using Scite, and I really like it, except I find its > syntax highlighting to be very inflexible. You aren't able to define > your own groups of words -- you have to use what's given, basically. One > thing I like about UltraEdit is that you simply define as many groups of > keywords as you want and then assign a style to each one. Scite has a > very strange and rigid method of highlighting. > > So hopefully some of you might have some suggestions. My requirements > are minimal, but I'm still not happy with the syntax highlighting I'm > seeing in a lot of editors out there. Have you tried IDLE? It ships with python, meets your 5 criteria(*), can be customized (highlighting colors and command keys and more), and includes a usable GUI debugger. It's got some warts, but I like it a lot, it's pretty much all I use for my python coding. http://www.python.org/idle/ (* It *is* an IDE, but a very lightweight one. :) ) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: text editor suggestion?
John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here are my criteria: > > 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) > 2. auto/smart indenting > 3. ability to run script > 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE > 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) The two big names in text editing, Vim and Emacs, will both meet these criteria easily. They also have the advantage that you'll find one or the other, or both, on just about any Unix system intended for use by a programmer. > I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn > how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to > mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document > sometimes). Both Vim and Emacs operate fine with the mouse, if asked to do so. For Emacs, you simply run it in the context of an windowing environment and it will use a bitmapped graphical window. For Vim, you need to run 'gvim' to get the bitmapped window (later versions may attempt to do this by default, I'm not sure). There is also an enormous amount of support for both these editors, for all manner of text editing tasks, available online. It's a good idea to learn at least one of them very well, rather than learn a bunch of less-popular editors for specific tasks. -- \"I saw a sign: 'Rest Area 25 Miles'. That's pretty big. Some | `\ people must be really tired." -- Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: text editor suggestion?
Have you tried Notepad++? It's a neat text-editor. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
text editor suggestion?
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, but I have a more specific question so hopefully this won't be just the same old post. I've tried a few different editors, and I really like UltraEdit, but it's Windows-only and I'm working more on Linux nowadays. Here are my criteria: 1. syntax highlighting (highly customizable) 2. auto/smart indenting 3. ability to run script 4. light-weight text editor, not an IDE 5. cross-platform (not really necessary, but nice) That's pretty much all I need. It's nice when you can customize a bunch of other stuff too, but those are the most important. I've tried vim, but I really don't feel like taking the time to learn how to use it, given that I just like to casually program (not to mention that I prefer to use the mouse when navigating a document sometimes). I also just started using Scite, and I really like it, except I find its syntax highlighting to be very inflexible. You aren't able to define your own groups of words -- you have to use what's given, basically. One thing I like about UltraEdit is that you simply define as many groups of keywords as you want and then assign a style to each one. Scite has a very strange and rigid method of highlighting. So hopefully some of you might have some suggestions. My requirements are minimal, but I'm still not happy with the syntax highlighting I'm seeing in a lot of editors out there. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
