Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-20 Thread Stefan Behnel
n00m, 06.01.2010 01:25:
 My mom a little girl wsas pursued by Germans alsatians dogs in a
 forest
 Germans just made a fun of it.
 They screamead Zurich and laughed They laughed at her scare and you
 now teach me. Now her hands tremble froom malntrination
 She ate ate at WWII grass. And you teach me?

Sorry, this thread wasn't long enough yet to put Godwin's law in action.

Stefan
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-05 Thread n00m
Stick your English into your ass
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-05 Thread Phlip
On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
 genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
 an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
 to Python in the last two decades!

The more languages you learn before getting to Smalltalk, the more
awesome Smalltalk will be for you.

--
  Phlip
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-05 Thread Steve Holden
Phlip wrote:
 On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
 genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
 an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
 to Python in the last two decades!
 
 The more languages you learn before getting to Smalltalk, the more
 awesome Smalltalk will be for you.
 
After implementing SmallTalk I more or less gave up OO programming for
ten years, resuming it only after I met Python. SmallTalk didn't seem
that awesome to me.

Though for its time it was an incredible system, its insistence on a
SmallTalk-only VM environment seemed a little solipsistic.

regards
 Steve
-- 
Steve Holden   +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
PyCon is coming! Atlanta, Feb 2010  http://us.pycon.org/
Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/
UPCOMING EVENTS:http://holdenweb.eventbrite.com/

-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-05 Thread Mensanator
On Jan 5, 8:22 am, n00m n...@narod.ru wrote:
 Stick your English into your ass

Most people would say up your ass.
And use a period at the end of the sentence.

Got any more funny insults?
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-05 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
 Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
 genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
 an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
 to Python in the last two decades!

 The more languages you learn before getting to Smalltalk, the more
 awesome Smalltalk will be for you.

 After implementing SmallTalk I more or less gave up OO programming for
 ten years,

But why? What was so frightening about the OO model of SmallTalk?

Cheers,
Daniel

 resuming it only after I met Python. SmallTalk didn't seem
 that awesome to me.

 Though for its time it was an incredible system, its insistence on a
 SmallTalk-only VM environment seemed a little solipsistic.


-- 
Psss, psss, put it down! - http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
 Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.

Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
They are encircling us! They keep coming! At least one troll thread
started on usenet just since I started typing! Quick, quick, do
something! Do something! Save us!


-- 
Psss, psss, put it down! - http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Daniel Fetchinson fetchin...@googlemail.com writes:

 Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
 everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!

I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
is, that's fine I suppose.

I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
noise.

-- 
 \ “Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands |
  `\ it.” —Albert Einstein |
_o__)  |
Ben Finney
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Holden
Ben Finney wrote:
 Daniel Fetchinson fetchin...@googlemail.com writes:
 
 Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
 everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
 
 I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
 is, that's fine I suppose.
 
 I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
 responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
 noise.
 
And I, for one, offer you my thanks for your efforts.

regards
 Steve
-- 
Steve Holden   +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
PyCon is coming! Atlanta, Feb 2010  http://us.pycon.org/
Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/
UPCOMING EVENTS:http://holdenweb.eventbrite.com/

-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
 Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
 everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!

 I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
 is, that's fine I suppose.

 I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
 responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
 noise.

 And I, for one, offer you my thanks for your efforts.

Me too. But Ben will not get the Best Sense of Humor Award of 2010 for sure :)
Although who knows, there is a full year ahead and things can change 

Cheers,
Daniel



-- 
Psss, psss, put it down! - http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Daniel Fetchinson fetchin...@googlemail.com writes:

 But Ben will not get the Best Sense of Humor Award of 2010 for sure :)

Sometimes the failing of humour is not with the recipient.

-- 
 \“Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?” “Sure, Brain, |
  `\ but how are we going to find chaps our size?” —_Pinky and The |
_o__)   Brain_ |
Ben Finney
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread n00m
Ben, go away from here. With all your stupids sigs.
Do you think are you original?
You are a stupid animal.
Guido, Tim Peters, Raymond Hettinger are geniuis.
I don't know exactly Python mob. Maybe forgot someone.
You is only a source of depspise for them
You get your everymonth fucking 1000 e sitting here
whom are you teaching? This crowds of animals?
They and you you cant nothing
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-04 Thread Mensanator
On Jan 4, 4:20 pm, n00m n...@narod.ru wrote:
 Ben, go away from here. With all your stupids sigs.
 Do you think are you original?
 You are a stupid animal.
 Guido, Tim Peters, Raymond Hettinger are geniuis.
 I don't know exactly Python mob. Maybe forgot someone.
 You is only a source of depspise for them
 You get your everymonth fucking 1000 e sitting here
 whom are you teaching? This crowds of animals?
 They and you you cant nothing

Rants are so much funnier when the speaker can't speak English.
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 05:06:24PM EST, Steve Howell wrote:

 FYI:
 
 http://twitter.com/gvanrossum
 
 Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
 genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
 an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
 to Python in the last two decades!

Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less response,
and get much less coverage, than Xah Lee's :-)

I guess Guido's not one to care much about beauty contests anyway.

HNY,

CJ
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com writes:

 Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less
 response, and get much less coverage […]

The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido van
Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python great). Mere
week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.

-- 
 \“If this is your first visit to the USSR, you are welcome to |
  `\  it.” —hotel room, Moscow |
_o__)  |
Ben Finney
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:19:02PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
 Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com writes:

  Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less
  response, and get much less coverage […]
 
 The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido van
 Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python great).
 Mere week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.

That I understand. But my remark was not really about Guido.. but rather
in a roundabout way, more of a poke at Xah Lee, hopefully avoiding the
troll-feeding trap. Sorry you missed my point.

Come to think of it, since I have nothing much to say about python, but
nevertheless enjoy reading most of the material on this list, this was
mostly an excuse to wish everyone here a Happy New Year.

CJ

-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread n00m
i'm sobered up
Yes of course Guido and his lang is both superb things
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:19:02PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
  The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido
  van Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python
  great). Mere week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.

 That I understand. But my remark was not really about Guido.. but
 rather in a roundabout way, more of a poke at [a troll], hopefully
 avoiding the troll-feeding trap.

You didn't avoid it, since you irrelevantly raised (twice, now)
discussion of a troll in a thread originally unrelated to that person.

 Sorry you missed my point.

I didn't, since I attempted to bring it back on topic by expunging the
off-topic part of your message. Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.

-- 
 \  “If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly |
  `\  owned if it is not shared.” —Augustine of Hippo (354–430 CE) |
_o__)  |
Ben Finney
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread n00m
Now tell me:
what ahat this mobs of yellow, africans, asiats, are doing in
Stockholm?
Do you think your govs let me in just to vist England, Norway? Never.
Its all conditionally. But the fact is. IS.
You roll our world into abyss of stupidity

-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread r0g
n00m wrote:
 Ok, let me evolve a bit my thought.
 Guido is Eropean Culture.
 Now say what was invented by Japanese, by Chinese?
 Nothing.
 Barbaric cultures, they are animals inborn animals.
 Russian Sikorsky built choppers for Eisenhower.
 Look at letter S on them -- its his name
 What you know about his destiny?
 You know knothing. Yuou don't know that only the
 greatest Russian composer Rakhmaninov helped him, in America.
 Literally -- by money, the composer gave him all his fortune ~$1500
 Be not this help -- no choppers in America



Announcement: You can download the latest version of this cutting edge
bot from here...

http://www.illiteratexenophobicrantingracistsimulator.ru/usenet_spambot.py

Plugins available here...

http://www.illiteratexenophobicrantingracistsimulator.ru/terrible_spelling.py
http://www.illiteratexenophobicrantingracistsimulator.ru/inconsequential_facts.py
http://www.illiteratexenophobicrantingracistsimulator.ru/rabid_nationalism.py

Happy new year everybody!

Roger.
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:18:18PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
 Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com writes:

[..]

  Sorry you missed my point.
 
 I didn't, since I attempted to bring it back on topic by expunging the
 off-topic part of your message. 

Er.. what's 'off-topic' about mentioning that a couple of trolls on this
list often seem to attract far more interest than a genuine testimonial
to Guido's achievement? 

 Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.

Man with a Mission, hehe.. 

CJ
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-01 Thread J Peyret
On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
 FYI:

 http://twitter.com/gvanrossum

 Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
 genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
 an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
 to Python in the last two decades!

Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being.  Go BSD derivatives.


-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-01 Thread Krishnakant
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 03:25 -0800, J Peyret wrote:
 On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
  FYI:
 
  http://twitter.com/gvanrossum
 
  Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
  genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
  an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
  to Python in the last two decades!
 
 Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
 Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being.  Go BSD derivatives.

Indeed,
python is a great programming language.
May be it was not marketted as much as languages like java or not as
much as platforms like rails.
But who cares?  I must mention here that I am totally blind and the
talking software (screen reader ) I use on GNU/Linux called Orca is also
programmed using python.

And I make web applications and off late started to use pylons (  again
centered around python).
I see that python is for 2 kind of programmers.
one which are absolute beginners to programming itself who want to learn
the scientific art of programming and the second is the extreme experts
who need the power and performance nicely balanced.

Great work!

happy hfacking.
Krishnakant.


-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-01 Thread MRAB

J Peyret wrote:

On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:

FYI:

http://twitter.com/gvanrossum

Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
to Python in the last two decades!


Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being.


And anyone who says he isn't will be put into the comfy chair! :-)
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-01 Thread Steve Howell
On Jan 1, 9:03 am, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
 J Peyret wrote:
  On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
  FYI:

 http://twitter.com/gvanrossum

  Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
  genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
  an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
  to Python in the last two decades!

  Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
  Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being.

 And anyone who says he isn't will be put into the comfy chair! :-)

And poked with the soft cushions!
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Re: twenty years ago Guido created Python

2010-01-01 Thread dennis
On Jan 1, 6:04 am, Krishnakant hackin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 03:25 -0800, J Peyret wrote:
  On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
   FYI:

  http://twitter.com/gvanrossum

   Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
   genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
   an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
   to Python in the last two decades!

  Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
  Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being.  Go BSD derivatives.

 Indeed,
 python is a great programming language.
 May be it was not marketted as much as languages like java or not as
 much as platforms like rails.
 But who cares?  I must mention here that I am totally blind and the
 talking software (screen reader ) I use on GNU/Linux called Orca is also
 programmed using python.

 And I make web applications and off late started to use pylons (  again
 centered around python).
 I see that python is for 2 kind of programmers.
 one which are absolute beginners to programming itself who want to learn
 the scientific art of programming and the second is the extreme experts
 who need the power and performance nicely balanced.

 Great work!

 happy hfacking.
 Krishnakant.

That's incredible.
-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


twenty years ago Guido created Python

2009-12-31 Thread Steve Howell
FYI:

http://twitter.com/gvanrossum

Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
to Python in the last two decades!

-- 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list