Re: which parser to use

2005-02-23 Thread Paul McGuire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm building something that requires parsing a rather complex
 language. I'd like to do the whole application, including the
 lex/parse phase, in Python (for development/debug speed), and only
 move parts of it to a compiled language if execution speed absolutely
 dictates. So, what i'm looking for in a Python parser is:

 1) reliability (don't want to debug a parser)
 1) flexibility (i do a lot of refactoring)
 2) E/BNF friendliness (working from a spec)
 3) speed (moderate speed will do; glacial won't)

 Does anyone have any familiarity with some of the several Python
 parsers out there? Any pointers to comparisons (as opposed to
surveys)
 of _several_ of the Python parsers would be much appereciated. (I've
 seen the YAPPS/Spark comparison.) If none of the Python parsers
really
 fit the bill, any thoughts on ANTLR, Spirit, etc?

 Thanks in advance,
 E

Depending on just *how* complex your EBNF is, pyparsing may be
suitable.  It has been used for Verilog, DOT, TeX, and agent language
parsing.  Pyparsing is a combinator, in which you assemble the
grammar using expression objects such as Literal, Word, OneOrMore,
etc., all in pure Python code - no separate lex/yacc syntax, or code
generation/synchronization steps.  It *may* be somewhat slow for your
purposes, but I find the grammars to be readable and easily maintained
and extended.

Download pyparsing at http://pyparsing.sourceforge.net.

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Re: which parser to use

2005-02-22 Thread Jean Brouwers

Check out SimpleParse/mxTextTools.  Just an outstanding E/BNF driven
parser, very highly recommended.

 http://simpleparse.sourceforge.net/

/Jean Brouwers

PS) See also

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-simple.html

http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/charming_python_b4.html

There are descriptions of other Python-based parsers on this site
http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/



In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm building something that requires parsing a rather complex
 language. I'd like to do the whole application, including the
 lex/parse phase, in Python (for development/debug speed), and only
 move parts of it to a compiled language if execution speed absolutely
 dictates. So, what i'm looking for in a Python parser is:
 
 1) reliability (don't want to debug a parser)
 1) flexibility (i do a lot of refactoring)
 2) E/BNF friendliness (working from a spec)
 3) speed (moderate speed will do; glacial won't)
 
 Does anyone have any familiarity with some of the several Python
 parsers out there? Any pointers to comparisons (as opposed to surveys)
 of _several_ of the Python parsers would be much appereciated. (I've
 seen the YAPPS/Spark comparison.) If none of the Python parsers really
 fit the bill, any thoughts on ANTLR, Spirit, etc?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 E

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Re: which parser to use

2005-02-22 Thread Miki Tebeka
Hello E,

 I'm building something that requires parsing a rather complex
 language. I'd like to do the whole application, including the
 lex/parse phase, in Python (for development/debug speed), and only
 move parts of it to a compiled language if execution speed absolutely
 dictates. So, what i'm looking for in a Python parser is:
 
 1) reliability (don't want to debug a parser)
 1) flexibility (i do a lot of refactoring)
 2) E/BNF friendliness (working from a spec)
 3) speed (moderate speed will do; glacial won't)
 
 Does anyone have any familiarity with some of the several Python
 parsers out there? Any pointers to comparisons (as opposed to surveys)
 of _several_ of the Python parsers would be much appereciated. (I've
 seen the YAPPS/Spark comparison.) If none of the Python parsers really
 fit the bill, any thoughts on ANTLR, Spirit, etc?
I'm very happy with PLY (http://systems.cs.uchicago.edu/ply/).
I was used in several small parsers here and it's easy to maintain, works
in acceptable speed and IMO the code is very readable.
Also I find the documentation very good.

HTH.
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which parser to use

2005-02-21 Thread a_nuther

I'm building something that requires parsing a rather complex
language. I'd like to do the whole application, including the
lex/parse phase, in Python (for development/debug speed), and only
move parts of it to a compiled language if execution speed absolutely
dictates. So, what i'm looking for in a Python parser is:

1) reliability (don't want to debug a parser)
1) flexibility (i do a lot of refactoring)
2) E/BNF friendliness (working from a spec)
3) speed (moderate speed will do; glacial won't)

Does anyone have any familiarity with some of the several Python
parsers out there? Any pointers to comparisons (as opposed to surveys)
of _several_ of the Python parsers would be much appereciated. (I've
seen the YAPPS/Spark comparison.) If none of the Python parsers really
fit the bill, any thoughts on ANTLR, Spirit, etc?

Thanks in advance,
E

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