Re: why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[Stef Mientki]

Martin v. Löwis wrote:
 having a lot of trouble installing 2.5 (without affecting my stable
 2.4),
 I wonder why there's only a msi installer for windows users ?
>>> What's your problem? I have five versions installed (2.1, 2.3, 2.4,
>>> 2.5 and svn) and they coexist peacefully. Just make sure when
>>> installing 2.5: a) use a different directory (obviously!) b) don't
>>> associate .py extension with this new version.
>> So how do you prevent that the windows registry is changed,
>> if you're using an msi installer ?
> 
> Just unselect "Register Extensions" ("Make this Python installation
> the default Python installation") when installing the MSI file, if
> you don't want .py be associated with this installation.
Thanks I missed that setting.
Never seen before that this tree was used to prevent register changes.
A beautiful example of bad GUI ;-)

cheers,
Stef
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Re: why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[Martin v. Löwis]

>>> having a lot of trouble installing 2.5 (without affecting my stable
>>> 2.4),
>>> I wonder why there's only a msi installer for windows users ?
>>
>> What's your problem? I have five versions installed (2.1, 2.3, 2.4,
>> 2.5 and svn) and they coexist peacefully. Just make sure when
>> installing 2.5: a) use a different directory (obviously!) b) don't
>> associate .py extension with this new version.
> 
> So how do you prevent that the windows registry is changed,
> if you're using an msi installer ?

Just unselect "Register Extensions" ("Make this Python installation
the default Python installation") when installing the MSI file, if
you don't want .py be associated with this installation.

> Or do you use another install technique ?.
> Or do you don't mind that the registry is changed by an installation ?

It's indeed no problem whatsoever to modify the registry. Different
Python versions use different registry keys, so they don't conflict.

> Yes I've to study that once.
> As a REAL windows user,
> I know nothing about registry, environment variables, associating files
> etc,
> Bill is always doing that for me !! ;-)

And so is Python. Just install the MSI file, and don't worry.

Regards,
Martin
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Re: why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[Stef Mientki]

Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> On 18 dic, 15:54, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> having a lot of trouble installing 2.5 (without affecting my stable 2.4),
>> I wonder why there's only a msi installer for windows users ?
> 
> What's your problem? I have five versions installed (2.1, 2.3, 2.4,
> 2.5 and svn) and they coexist peacefully. Just make sure when
> installing 2.5: a) use a different directory (obviously!) b) don't
> associate .py extension with this new version.

So how do you prevent that the windows registry is changed,
if you're using an msi installer ?
Or do you use another install technique ?.
Or do you don't mind that the registry is changed by an installation ?

> Regarding the standard library, Python tries to locate it based on
> where the executable (python.exe) resides, so this should not be a
> problem. Better if you don't set a PYTHONPATH environment variable
> (usually there is no need to do that; if required, you can extend the
> search path using .pth files instead)
Yes I've to study that once.
As a REAL windows user,
I know nothing about registry, environment variables, associating files etc,
Bill is always doing that for me !! ;-)

cheers,
Stef
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Re: why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[Gabriel Genellina]

On 18 dic, 15:54, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> having a lot of trouble installing 2.5 (without affecting my stable 2.4),
> I wonder why there's only a msi installer for windows users ?

What's your problem? I have five versions installed (2.1, 2.3, 2.4,
2.5 and svn) and they coexist peacefully. Just make sure when
installing 2.5: a) use a different directory (obviously!) b) don't
associate .py extension with this new version.
Regarding the standard library, Python tries to locate it based on
where the executable (python.exe) resides, so this should not be a
problem. Better if you don't set a PYTHONPATH environment variable
(usually there is no need to do that; if required, you can extend the
search path using .pth files instead)

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Re: why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[John Machin]

On Dec 19, 7:11 am, Tim Couper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think as msi is "The *Windows Installer* .. is an engine for the
> installation, maintenance, and removal of software on modern Microsoft
> Windows  systems" (from
> Wikipaedia)", it's clear it's a Windows product ... not sure that
> they're up for putting it on other operating systems .. but you may want
> to email Bill G and ask him ..
>

It all depends on context, none of which the OP has supplied, and how
much weight one can attach to the position of "only" in his sentence.

"only a msi installer for windows users" could mean "Python supplies
only an msi installer [no exe installer, as was the case for earlier
Python versions] for Windows users. This presents difficulties
installing Python 2.5 on antique versions of Windows".

If Tim's interpretation is correct, it would help greatly if the OP
would say explicitly what his platform is and what his real problem
is, instead of asking why a purported solution doesn't exist.
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Re: why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[Tim Couper]

I think as msi is "The *Windows Installer* .. is an engine for the 
installation, maintenance, and removal of software on modern Microsoft 
Windows  systems" (from 
Wikipaedia)", it's clear it's a Windows product ... not sure that 
they're up for putting it on other operating systems .. but you may want 
to email Bill G and ask him ..

Tim

Stef Mientki wrote:
> hello,
>
> having a lot of trouble installing 2.5 (without affecting my stable 2.4),
> I wonder why there's only a msi installer for windows users ?
>
> thanks,
> Stef
>   
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why only an msi-installer for windows ?

[Stef Mientki]

hello,

having a lot of trouble installing 2.5 (without affecting my stable 2.4),
I wonder why there's only a msi installer for windows users ?

thanks,
Stef
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