Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman


On June 24, 2020 12:18:39 AM UTC, Noah Meyerhans  wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 08:35:53PM -0300, Emmanuel Arias wrote:
>> > Please don't.  Please ask them to be moved properly by opening a
>ticket
>> > if you don't find another way.
>> 
>> I agree with Bastian, This is not a fork itself, Is the same project
>moving to
>> another team.
>
>Yes.
>
>> IMO, If we fork, the repository will still exist on DPMT and can be
>re-working.
>
>Of course, but an admin of the source project can simply delete it.  In
>any case, it's moot point, since the projects in question have already
>been migrated.
>
>Requiring an "administrator" to get involved in order to move a package
>from one maintainer to another is the sort of thing that gets people
>muttering about the "Debian cabal" again...

Muttering or not, there's nothing gained be doing it the hard way unless there 
are pending merge requests (we don't generally use the Git Lab features the 
would make it worth the trouble to invoke administrator level work).

Scott K

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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-23 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 08:35:53PM -0300, Emmanuel Arias wrote:
> > Please don't.  Please ask them to be moved properly by opening a ticket
> > if you don't find another way.
> 
> I agree with Bastian, This is not a fork itself, Is the same project moving to
> another team.

Yes.

> IMO, If we fork, the repository will still exist on DPMT and can be 
> re-working.

Of course, but an admin of the source project can simply delete it.  In
any case, it's moot point, since the projects in question have already
been migrated.

Requiring an "administrator" to get involved in order to move a package
from one maintainer to another is the sort of thing that gets people
muttering about the "Debian cabal" again...

noah



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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-23 Thread Emmanuel Arias
Hi

El sáb., 20 de jun. de 2020 a la(s) 15:36, Bastian Blank
(wa...@debian.org) escribió:
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:49:24AM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 03:37:09PM +0900, TANIGUCHI Takaki wrote:
> > > I agree your proposal. It's a good idea.
> > Thank you.  I've forked both of these salsa projects into the cloud-team
> > namespace.  I'll prepare sid uploads adjusting the various packaging
> > metadata in the next day or two.
>
> Please don't.  Please ask them to be moved properly by opening a ticket
> if you don't find another way.

I agree with Bastian, This is not a fork itself, Is the same project moving to
another team.

IMO, If we fork, the repository will still exist on DPMT and can be re-working.

Cheers,
Emmanuel
>
> Bastian
>
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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 08:21:45AM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> OK, that makes sense.  Thanks.  Can you go ahead and move awscli and
> python-botocore from
> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/awscli and
> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/python-botocore to the
> cloud-team namespace?

Done.

> Indeed, this is the first I've heard of such a process.  We moved
> python-boto and python-boto3 using the process I was proposing here.

Yeah, I did not realize what you had tried with them.

Bastian

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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-23 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 02:43:24PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > Why not?  We've moved other repositories using this process and it's
> > never been a problem.
> 
> If a project is moved, the old project is for sure gone and is replaced
> by a redirect.  This means that users don't need to change anything and
> existing checkouts will continue to work.
> 
> If you move a project by forking, you need to make sure the original
> project is actually removed and you need to modify any existing checkout
> by hand.

OK, that makes sense.  Thanks.  Can you go ahead and move awscli and
python-botocore from
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/awscli and
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/python-botocore to the
cloud-team namespace?

I've already forked the projects to cloud-team, but I never pushed
anything to their repositories, so it should be safe to delete them from
the target location first, if needed.

> But it seems we never added a hint about moving stuff to the Salsa
> documentation.

Indeed, this is the first I've heard of such a process.  We moved
python-boto and python-boto3 using the process I was proposing here.

noah



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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:53:01PM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 08:36:33PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > Thank you.  I've forked both of these salsa projects into the cloud-team
> > > namespace.  I'll prepare sid uploads adjusting the various packaging
> > > metadata in the next day or two.
> > Please don't.  Please ask them to be moved properly by opening a ticket
> > if you don't find another way.
> Why not?  We've moved other repositories using this process and it's
> never been a problem.

If a project is moved, the old project is for sure gone and is replaced
by a redirect.  This means that users don't need to change anything and
existing checkouts will continue to work.

If you move a project by forking, you need to make sure the original
project is actually removed and you need to modify any existing checkout
by hand.

But it seems we never added a hint about moving stuff to the Salsa
documentation.

Regards,
Bastian

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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-20 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 20 June 2020 20:53:01 BST, Noah Meyerhans  wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 08:36:33PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
>> > > I agree your proposal. It's a good idea.
>> > Thank you.  I've forked both of these salsa projects into the
>cloud-team
>> > namespace.  I'll prepare sid uploads adjusting the various
>packaging
>> > metadata in the next day or two.
>> 
>> Please don't.  Please ask them to be moved properly by opening a
>ticket
>> if you don't find another way.
>
>Why not?  We've moved other repositories using this process and it's
>never been a problem.
>
>noah

I think that Bastian is asking for this as salsa admin trying to keep it in 
reasonable shape more than anything else, but if I'm wrong I bet he's going to 
correct me 

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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-20 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:49:24AM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 03:37:09PM +0900, TANIGUCHI Takaki wrote:
> > I agree your proposal. It's a good idea.
> Thank you.  I've forked both of these salsa projects into the cloud-team
> namespace.  I'll prepare sid uploads adjusting the various packaging
> metadata in the next day or two.

Please don't.  Please ask them to be moved properly by opening a ticket
if you don't find another way.

Bastian

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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-20 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 03:37:09PM +0900, TANIGUCHI Takaki wrote:
> I agree your proposal. It's a good idea.

Thank you.  I've forked both of these salsa projects into the cloud-team
namespace.  I'll prepare sid uploads adjusting the various packaging
metadata in the next day or two.

noah



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Re: [Python-modules-team] proposal: moving awscli and python-botocore to cloud-team ownership

2020-06-18 Thread TANIGUCHI Takaki
I agree your proposal. It's a good idea.

> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:55:21 -0700
> no...@debian.org(Noah Meyerhans)  said:
>
> [1  ]
> Hello.  I'd like to propose moving the awscli and python-botocore
> packages from DPMT maintenance to cloud-team maintenance.  Both of these
> packages are specifically focused on cloud services, and I believe that
> maintaining them under the cloud-team's umbrella will help us further
> the cloud-team's goals of making Debian the best OS for cloud users.
>
> A current example of the sort of thing we'd like to do is get updated
> packages into a stable point release.  AWS released an opt-in security
> feature called Instance Metadata Service version 2 (IMDSv2).  Getting an
> updated version of botocore into stable would allow our stable users to
> take advantage of this feature.  This is something that members of the
> cloud team are interested in pursuing.
>
> I'd also warmly welcome any members of the DPMT who are interested in
> these packages to continue working on them after the transition.
>
> What do folks think of this?
>
> Thanks
> noah
>
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