[python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
Hi, I am one of the python.org webmasters. We get people -- often children who want to install python on their computers but don't know what OS they are running. Nearly all of these people are running Windows, though I did get somebody who was running FreeBSD the other day. :) Microsoft tells you to do this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system This is asking an awful lot of the people who are mailing webmaster and who don't know what OS they are running. It is futile to tell these people methods to find out what OS version they are running that vary depending on what OS you have, so I am looking for a thing you can do on any version of windows which will reliably spit out the correct answer. something along the lines of the windows XP discovery: Click the Start button, click Run, type winver, and then press Enter. looks good. Perhaps it has to be: open a command window (but do you do the same thing to do that on all windows versions?) and type winver Now that page, of course, supposedly tells you what version you are running if you connect to it over the internet with the machine you want to test. But not having a windows system or 12 to test with, I am not sure what the results are, and whether that will in itself be good enough for people who just want to learn how to get Python. thanks very much, Laura ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
On 08/10/2015 10:56, Laura Creighton wrote: > Hi, I am one of the python.org webmasters. We get people -- often children > who want to install python on their computers but don't know what OS they > are running. Nearly all of these people are running Windows, though I > did get somebody who was running FreeBSD the other day. :) > > Microsoft tells you to do this: > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system > > This is asking an awful lot of the people who are mailing webmaster > and who don't know what OS they are running. It is futile to tell > these people methods to find out what OS version they are running that vary > depending on what OS you have, so I am looking for a thing you can do on > any version of windows which will reliably spit out the correct > answer. Windows + Pause/Break [*] will produce the system info window showing the Windows version, including Service Pack, and bit-ness, for any recent version of Windows. It does look slightly different on each version, but the Version string/name is always at the top in a section called something like "Windows edition". I'll see if I can get screenshots up somewhere. I've just confirmed this on: WinXP Win 7 Win 8.1 Server 2003 Server 2008 R2 Server 2012 R2 TJG [*] That's using the Windows key like a shift and tapping the key usually labelled Pause/Break. You can get to this window in other ways, but those *do* vary from system to system, while the keyboard shortcut works everywhere AFAIK. ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
On 10/8/2015 3:56 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: Hi, I am one of the python.org webmasters. We get people -- often children who want to install python on their computers but don't know what OS they are running. Nearly all of these people are running Windows, though I did get somebody who was running FreeBSD the other day. :) Microsoft tells you to do this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system This is asking an awful lot of the people who are mailing webmaster and who don't know what OS they are running. It is futile to tell these people methods to find out what OS version they are running that vary depending on what OS you have, so I am looking for a thing you can do on any version of windows which will reliably spit out the correct answer. something along the lines of the windows XP discovery: Click the Start button, click Run, type winver, and then press Enter. You can reduce it be at least one step: Windows Key + R, type winver, press Enter. I tested this with Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10. I don't have Vista handy, but I assume it will work there as well. ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:37:32 +0100, Tim Golden writes: >Windows + Pause/Break [*] will produce the system info window showing >the Windows version, including Service Pack, and bit-ness, for any >recent version of Windows. > >It does look slightly different on each version, but the Version >string/name is always at the top in a section called something like >"Windows edition". I'll see if I can get screenshots up somewhere. > >I've just confirmed this on: > >WinXP >Win 7 >Win 8.1 >Server 2003 >Server 2008 R2 >Server 2012 R2 > >TJG > >[*] That's using the Windows key like a shift and tapping the key >usually labelled Pause/Break. You can get to this window in other ways, >but those *do* vary from system to system, while the keyboard shortcut >works everywhere AFAIK. Wonderful. Now if any Vista people and RT people can confirm it works for them too, I think I will have the whole set. except CE? Does that run anywhere except phones/tablets? Laura ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
On 08/10/2015 13:37, Tim Golden wrote: > On 08/10/2015 10:56, Laura Creighton wrote: >> Hi, I am one of the python.org webmasters. We get people -- often children >> who want to install python on their computers but don't know what OS they >> are running. Nearly all of these people are running Windows, though I >> did get somebody who was running FreeBSD the other day. :) >> >> Microsoft tells you to do this: >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system >> >> This is asking an awful lot of the people who are mailing webmaster >> and who don't know what OS they are running. It is futile to tell >> these people methods to find out what OS version they are running that vary >> depending on what OS you have, so I am looking for a thing you can do on >> any version of windows which will reliably spit out the correct >> answer. > > Windows + Pause/Break [*] will produce the system info window showing > the Windows version, including Service Pack, and bit-ness, for any > recent version of Windows. > > It does look slightly different on each version, but the Version > string/name is always at the top in a section called something like > "Windows edition". I'll see if I can get screenshots up somewhere. To follow up, I've dropped a Q&D blog post here: http://ramblings.timgolden.me.uk/2015/10/08/what-windows-version-am-i-running/ with instructions on how to bring the window up, plus examples from every system I can get my hands on, which doesn't include Vista or 10, but I assume Vista looks like 7 and 10 looks like 8. Graham Bloice pointed out that the Pause|Break key isn't present on newer, laptop/tablet keyboards, so I've added the suggestion of right-clicking on "My Computer". I've also included the winver.exe suggestion and msinfo32.exe, both of which give most of the information. AFAICT, winver.exe doesn't tell you whether you're running 32 or 64/bit. Hopefully that will help the triage at any rate. TJG ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
On 2015-10-08 11:56, Laura Creighton wrote: Hi, I am one of the python.org webmasters. We get people -- often children who want to install python on their computers but don't know what OS they are running. Nearly all of these people are running Windows, though I did get somebody who was running FreeBSD the other day. :) Microsoft tells you to do this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system Clicking on a link is too much to ask? Or is the URL too long? In that case I would suggest to use http://whatsmyos.com/ This is asking an awful lot of the people who are mailing webmaster and who don't know what OS they are running. It is futile to tell these people methods to find out what OS version they are running that vary depending on what OS you have, so I am looking for a thing you can do on any version of windows which will reliably spit out the correct answer. something along the lines of the windows XP discovery: Click the Start button, click Run, type winver, and then press Enter. looks good. Perhaps it has to be: open a command window (but do you do the same thing to do that on all windows versions?) and type winver Now that page, of course, supposedly tells you what version you are running if you connect to it over the internet with the machine you want to test. But not having a windows system or 12 to test with, I am not sure what the results are, and whether that will in itself be good enough for people who just want to learn how to get Python. You can check how well it works by using a "user agent switcher" plugin for your browser. Best regards, Patrick ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:52:11 +0200, Patrick Asselman writes: >> Microsoft tells you to do this: >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system > >Clicking on a link is too much to ask? Or is the URL too long? >In that case I would suggest to use http://whatsmyos.com/ clicking on the link wasn't the problem. The problem was with the content -- Microsoft tells you how to find out what OS version you have with a different procedure based on what OS version you have. Which, of course, if you already knew the answer to, you wouldn't need to ask .. Laura ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
On 2015-10-08 15:59, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:52:11 +0200, Patrick Asselman writes: Microsoft tells you to do this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system Clicking on a link is too much to ask? Or is the URL too long? In that case I would suggest to use http://whatsmyos.com/ clicking on the link wasn't the problem. The problem was with the content -- Microsoft tells you how to find out what OS version you have with a different procedure based on what OS version you have. Which, of course, if you already knew the answer to, you wouldn't need to ask .. That is peculiar... on my screen, when I click on that link, I read "This PC is running: Windows 7" That's why I was wondering what is so difficult about it... Best regards, Patrick ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:03:23 +0200, Patrick Asselman writes: >On 2015-10-08 15:59, Laura Creighton wrote: >> In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:52:11 +0200, Patrick Asselman >> writes: Microsoft tells you to do this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/which-operating-system >>> >>> Clicking on a link is too much to ask? Or is the URL too long? >>> In that case I would suggest to use http://whatsmyos.com/ >> >> clicking on the link wasn't the problem. The problem was with >> the content -- Microsoft tells you how to find out what OS version >> you have with a different procedure based on what OS version you >> have. Which, of course, if you already knew the answer to, you >> wouldn't need to ask .. > >That is peculiar... on my screen, when I click on that link, I read > >"This PC is running: Windows 7" > >That's why I was wondering what is so difficult about it... > > >Best regards, >Patrick I know there are some windows users whom I have sent there, and who have sent me screenshots where they were being told: "This device isn't running a Windows operating system", which was incorrect. It may be due to private browsing, or their language choices, or, actually I don't know what all can cause this. Laura ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
Laura Creighton wrote: > I know there are some windows users whom I have sent there, and who have > sent me screenshots where they were being told: > "This device isn't running a Windows operating system", which > was incorrect. It may be due to private browsing, or their > language choices, or, actually I don't know what all can cause this. It's not hard to understand. The web server doesn't have access to your system. It guesses that information based on the HTTP headers that were sent by the browser. There is no standard for how the browser identification line is formatted, nor indeed does the standard require one be present at all. Some browsers are too clever, some intentionally lie, some don't include it. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
Laura Creighton wrote: > Wonderful. Now if any Vista people and RT people can confirm it works > for them too, I think I will have the whole set. The RT user experience is identical to Windows 8. It works there. The Vista start button is the same as Windows 7. Server 2008 is the same as Vista, Server 2008R2 is the same as Windows 7, Server 2012 is the same as Windows 8, Server 2012R2 is the same as Windows 8.1. Think you have them all covered. > except CE? Does that run anywhere except phones/tablets? It runs on a lot of weird embedded devices, but the user experience is not as consistent as the desktop version. Too many manufacturer tweaks. Plus, anyone who is running Python on a CE device knows what they are doing and will be able to answer the question without your help. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
Re: [python-win32] Is there a _simple_ way to find out what version of Windows you are running?
In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:00:43 -0700, Tim Roberts writes: >Laura Creighton wrote: >> Wonderful. Now if any Vista people and RT people can confirm it works >> for them too, I think I will have the whole set. > >The RT user experience is identical to Windows 8. It works there. > >The Vista start button is the same as Windows 7. > >Server 2008 is the same as Vista, Server 2008R2 is the same as Windows >7, Server 2012 is the same as Windows 8, Server 2012R2 is the same as >Windows 8.1. Think you have them all covered. > > >> except CE? Does that run anywhere except phones/tablets? > >It runs on a lot of weird embedded devices, but the user experience is >not as consistent as the desktop version. Too many manufacturer >tweaks. Plus, anyone who is running Python on a CE device knows what >they are doing and will be able to answer the question without your help. > >-- >Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com >Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. Thank you very, very much. Laura ___ python-win32 mailing list python-win32@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
