Re: [PythonCE] PyCrypto binaries

2007-07-27 Thread Johnny deBris
Matt S. wrote:
> 
> since I've not yet noticed the wxPython and ctypes binaries available
> for 2.5).
> 

ctypes seems to be part of the build... Works for me on 2.5 at least. ;)

Cheers,

Guido
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Re: [PythonCE] PyCrypto binaries

2007-07-27 Thread alexandre . delattre
Johnny deBris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> Matt S. wrote:
>>
>> since I've not yet noticed the wxPython and ctypes binaries available
>> for 2.5).
>>
>
> ctypes seems to be part of the build... Works for me on 2.5 at least. ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Guido
>
>

Yes, ctypes is now a part of Python standard library thanks to Thomas Heller.
As for wxPython, I maybe gonna look in compiling it for 2.5.
Although I was disappointed by the difficulty to run it due to the  
large memory footprint (which is perfectly understandable if you think  
that the swig bindings are a python layer over a c++ layer which is in  
turn a layer over a c++ library that wraps GUI native calls) a lot of  
people seems to use it on the list and I do love the wxPython desktop  
version, so i'll see if the compilation goes easy ...
Besides, any tricks on reducing the memory usage is welcome ;)

Regards,

Alexandre


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Re: [PythonCE] PyCrypto binaries

2007-07-27 Thread alexandre . delattre
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Johnny deBris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> Matt S. wrote:
>>>
 since I've not yet noticed the wxPython and ctypes binaries available
 for 2.5).


>>> ctypes seems to be part of the build... Works for me on 2.5 at least. ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Guido
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, ctypes is now a part of Python standard library thanks to   
>> Thomas Heller.
>> As for wxPython, I maybe gonna look in compiling it for 2.5.
> It would be _REALLY_ cool. http://wxpyce.wikispaces.com/ is a try, but
> the binaries do not work for PythonCE 2.5 / wm5/6.
> I ever wanted to try following the Build-process-instructions with the
> latest sdk's (out of the hope, it will then run under 2.5 / wm5/6) but
> I have no x86-machine and no windows.
> Using wxwidgets with latest versions of python / wm would be very, very cool!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
> Thanks,
>
> Mirko
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Hello Mirko,

I will surely compile wxPyCe for 2.5 these days, as many people should  
be interested in. However, by experience, don't expect to be able to  
run wx+pycrypto+numpy+whatever c extension at the same time unless you  
have a very recent WM 6.0 device (it's a known problem of lack of  
virtual adressing space for dlls, that has been expanded from 32 MB to  
1 GB in WM 6.0 kernel).
That's the reason why I have ported Venster (and now secretly working  
on something FAR more pythonic & high level for embedded gui  
development), and not because I dislike wx or I wanted to reivent the  
wheel.

It'll be cool if PythonCE people could have the choice between  
portability (TKinter/wx) at the cost of non-native rendering or high  
memory consumption or something more specific but that delivers native  
rendering with a small footprint at the cost of learning something new  
(VensterCE that may be phased out by my new toolkit).

My opinion is that splitting backend & frontend of an application  
helps portability, and rewriting the frontend for an handeld with its  
small screen size and its own design guidelines should not be a big  
deal if the toolkit is easy to learn (and better, pythonic), the  
biggest advantage of the new toolkit over venster.

This is only my opinion, and people are, of course, free to see  
otherwise and choose what they think best for their own development.

That's why I will compile wxPyCe for 2.5 and still support ctypes gui  
toolkit at the same time.

Regards,

Alexandre.

PS :
If someone want to give a try, help, give suggestions, or learn more  
about the new toolkit, I'll be glad to send you my current work with  
an example application. The reason why I call the new toolkit "new  
toolkit" is because I've wanted to call it first pycegui, but realized  
that it was the bindings of CEGUI for pygame ! Reminds me something  
about Pyro ;)




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Re: [PythonCE] connect via ssh

2007-07-27 Thread Marc Horst
Hi Rich,

Thanks for the idea and for normal applications this might do the trick 
(and maybe in the future I'll use it too), but the laptop I was talking 
about is in fact the brains of my mobile robot (Linux based) and I want 
to develop an Python application for my PDA to control my robot. To get 
access to my robot I use ssh. But, as mentioned, I prefer to let my PDA 
application make the ssh-connection with my robot. But thanks for 
thinking with me and giving the idea!


Regards,

Marc



Rich Cork wrote:
> If you want to connect there is a zaTelnetCF2 the will do the trick
>
>
>
>>1.  ssh server for wince! (Marc Horst)
>>
>>
>> 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a PDA with Windows Mobile on it and would like to connect it to 
>> my laptop via ssh, I searched for a binary for PyCrypt for Windows 
>> Mobile/WinCE. However, it seems that these are unavailable. I was 
>> wondering if someone build PyCrypt already for WinCE/Windows Mobile and 
>> could do me a big favour by sending me the PyCrypt binaries (or send me 
>> the URL with the location where you found them) ?
>>
>> 
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Re: [PythonCE] PyCrypto binaries

2007-07-27 Thread Christopher Fairbairn

Hi,

On 28/07/2007, at 5:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


However, by experience, don't expect to be able to
run wx+pycrypto+numpy+whatever c extension at the same time unless you
have a very recent WM 6.0 device (it's a known problem of lack of
virtual adressing space for dlls, that has been expanded from 32 MB to
1 GB in WM 6.0 kernel).


Be very careful here.

Windows Mobile 6 devices still have the same 32MB process limit, as  
Windows Mobile 5.0 (or earlier) devices had.


The expanded addressing space is a feature of the Windows Embedded CE  
6.0 kernel. But Windows Mobile 6 devices are still using a Windows CE  
5.0 based OS kernel (v5.02 to be precise, compared to v5.01 which was  
used for Windows Mobile 5.0). Some features have been back ported  
into WinCE 5.02 from WinCE 6.0, but most of the major architectural  
differences still stand.


You will have to wait until Windows Mobile 7 (or whatever the next  
version is marketed as) for the Windows CE 6.0 kernel features to  
become available within Windows Mobile devices.


For a more complete explination see the blog posting titled "Is  
Windows Mobile 6 powered by Windows Embedded CE 6.0?" on my blog at  
http://www.christec.co.nz/blog/archives/18.


Hope it helps,
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