Re: [PythonCE] PythonCE on Smartphone (WM6)
Hi, You can use something like this: mainw=Tk() mainw.bind_all(Down, lambda e : mainw.event_generate(Tab)) mainw.bind_all(Up, lambda e : mainw.event_generate(Shift-Tab)) mainw.bind_all(Return, lambda e : mainw.event_generate(space)) It works fine on my WM6 smartphone Jorgen Bodde-3 wrote: Hi All, I have PythonCE 2.5 and TKinter running on my smartphone. I wrote a minimal app and I see a dialog with a button, but since it is a smartphone which does only have number keys and a jog dial to control the input, the window stays unresponsive to input. I cannot even set the focus to a control. Is there anything I need to do to get it to redirect the number keys and make it focus a control? Regards, - Jorgen -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/PythonCE-on-Smartphone-%28WM6%29-tp13218053p15499042.html Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
[PythonCE] PythonCE on Smartphone (WM6)
Hi, I' am about to make a public release of PocketPyGui, an open source toolkit that provides an abstraction level over the raw Win32 GUI api. I tried to design its API for python developers with no prior knowledge of win32 programming. For instance, one of its main benefit over its ancestor, vensterce, is the transparent event handling that allow direct binding from signals (button pressed, list selection changed, ...) to callbacks (any python function that takes a single argument). Doing the same with VensterCE, would need to understand well about the C way to do message dispatching, handling, and would in some cases need to manually maintain a list of ID for each controls which is quite static and unpythonic. The API also covers many controls : Button, Edit, Label, List (ListBox), Combo, Table (ListCtrl in report mode), Tree (TreeView), NoteBook, Progress (TrackBar), HTML, Date Time control, Dialog, Font, ... I tried to give each control a complete and intuitive interface, making use of property and special methods where appropriate. Some controls (Canvas ScrolledFrame) are still in WIP but will be included as a demo/tutorial. As a bonus, ppygui implements dynamic resolution detection and scaling (meaning your app will appear the same on a hires or classic resolution device without thinking about it), and automatic tab/jog-dial traversal (but it can be explicitely deactivated for a Window). All that to say that, even if I don't own a Smartphone, I'm definitely willing to make this kind of GUI abstraction for the next releases. Will setup the smartphone emulator provided by MS for my tests ... Best regards, Alexandre ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] PythonCE on Smartphone (WM6)
Hi Alexandre, It sounds very interesting. If you have a download available, please send me (or the mailinglist) a link! I'm still a newbie on the PythonCE platform, but I do know Python well for 2 years now so I hope I can use it to develop small apps rapidly for my mobile phone. Regards, - Jorgen On 10/18/07, Alexandre Delattre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I' am about to make a public release of PocketPyGui, an open source toolkit that provides an abstraction level over the raw Win32 GUI api. I tried to design its API for python developers with no prior knowledge of win32 programming. For instance, one of its main benefit over its ancestor, vensterce, is the transparent event handling that allow direct binding from signals (button pressed, list selection changed, ...) to callbacks (any python function that takes a single argument). Doing the same with VensterCE, would need to understand well about the C way to do message dispatching, handling, and would in some cases need to manually maintain a list of ID for each controls which is quite static and unpythonic. The API also covers many controls : Button, Edit, Label, List (ListBox), Combo, Table (ListCtrl in report mode), Tree (TreeView), NoteBook, Progress (TrackBar), HTML, Date Time control, Dialog, Font, ... I tried to give each control a complete and intuitive interface, making use of property and special methods where appropriate. Some controls (Canvas ScrolledFrame) are still in WIP but will be included as a demo/tutorial. As a bonus, ppygui implements dynamic resolution detection and scaling (meaning your app will appear the same on a hires or classic resolution device without thinking about it), and automatic tab/jog-dial traversal (but it can be explicitely deactivated for a Window). All that to say that, even if I don't own a Smartphone, I'm definitely willing to make this kind of GUI abstraction for the next releases. Will setup the smartphone emulator provided by MS for my tests ... Best regards, Alexandre ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] PythonCE on Smartphone (WM6)
Hi Jorgen, On 17/10/2007, at 7:29 AM, Jorgen Bodde wrote: Thank you for your answer, I guess I need to find a port of wxWidgets / wxPython or some kind that targets the mobile platform better, or instead use the Embedded Visual Studio with .NET. I love Python so I hope there is a better alternative for the smartphone. I personally have been using vensterce (http://sourceforge.net/ projects/vensterce) as my GUI toolkit. It is a very thin wrapper over top of the Win32 GUI APIs provided by the operating system. This coupled with some of the API documentation that explains how to create spinbox style lists and expandable edit controls (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms832344.aspx) works reasonably well for me. However even this vensterce (out of the box) doesn't abstract these kinds of UI differences. It is something I am contemplating contributing to the vensterce project at some stage... Hope this helps, Christopher Fairbairn ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
Re: [PythonCE] PythonCE on Smartphone (WM6)
Hi Christopher, Thank you for your answer, I guess I need to find a port of wxWidgets / wxPython or some kind that targets the mobile platform better, or instead use the Embedded Visual Studio with .NET. I love Python so I hope there is a better alternative for the smartphone. Regards, - Jorgen On 10/15/07, Christopher Fairbairn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jorgen, On Tue Oct 16 5:37 , Jorgen Bodde sent: I have PythonCE 2.5 and TKinter running on my smartphone. I wrote a minimal app and I see a dialog with a button, but since it is a smartphone which does only have number keys and a jog dial to control the input, the window stays unresponsive to input. I cannot even set the focus to a control. In general smartphone programming is slightly different from programming for a standard Pocket PC device. As you mentioned the first issue you typically come across is the lack of ability to select a control. The solution to this is to programatically select the first control on your window when initialising it. The OS has support within the default window procedure to then allow the user to tab between controls when the up or down arrow keys are pressed. A potentially larger problem with TKinter (a toolkit that I have no experience with) are issues around the standard controls such as combo boxes and buttons. On a Windows Mobile smartphone standard controls such as a combo box are exactly the same as you would see on a Pocket PC device. This leads to usability problems, for instance with a combo box there is no way to drop down it's list without being able to click on the little arrow button to the side of the control, which you obviously can't do on most smartphones. For this reason Microsoft suggests using a series of alternative controls. For example what you may think is a combo box within a smartphone application is probably a 1 line high listbox coupled with an up/down spinbox auto-buddy docked to its right. Application frameworks such as the .NET Compact Framework generally abstract this different within their control classes, so an application programmer creates a combobox and the framework determines which set of native controls need creation to implement this. I assume that TKinter probably hasn't been implemented with this kind of thing in mind. Hope this helps, Christopher Fairbairn PS: Just thinking about it now I bieleve TKinter is a framework which essentially draws all it's own custom controls. If this is the case the problem is probably more involved, since you won't get the native OS support for selecting controls on a smartphone etc. ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
[PythonCE] PythonCE on Smartphone (WM6)
Hi All, I have PythonCE 2.5 and TKinter running on my smartphone. I wrote a minimal app and I see a dialog with a button, but since it is a smartphone which does only have number keys and a jog dial to control the input, the window stays unresponsive to input. I cannot even set the focus to a control. Is there anything I need to do to get it to redirect the number keys and make it focus a control? Regards, - Jorgen ___ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
