Re: [PythonCE] VensterCE release

2007-03-05 Thread David Fraser
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> Brian Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>
>   
>> On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> 
 I'm curious.

 The original Venster was published under the MIT license.

 Why have you published Venster-CE under the GPL license?

 Alan.
 
>>> Well, I thought that the most important was to use an OSI compliant
>>> license and I personnaly prefer GNU/GPL. I'am no license-expert, so if
>>> you see any problem with this, tell me, and I could change the
>>> licensing.
>>>
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>>   
>> Hello Alex,
>>
>>
>> I was under the impression that MIT is quite OSI compliant. I prefer
>> MIT/BSD licensing and have published a great deal of code under that
>> license (http://techgame.net/projects/Framework).
>>
>> I personally believe there is a great synergy between commercial and
>> open source entities; for example, all the code we have created as
>> expressly open source were completely funded by commercial entities. We
>> make it as free as we can (MIT/BSD) for commercial or non-commercial
>> use. The GPL typically bars commercial use because you can't keep any
>> part of your system proprietary.
>>
>> Basically, If a toolkit is GPL, I typically won't use it when doing
>> development of my own stuff, although there are lots of other licenses,
>> such as MPL, APL and others that are less restrictive that the GPL.
>>
>> That's my 2 cents :)
>>
>> - Brian
>>
>>
>>
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> Hello Brian,
>
> Well, since I'm a student, I didn't really take into account  
> commercial use. I ideally thought that GPL gives a lot of freedom for  
> free or commercial development.
> If it encouranges python ce users to choose venster as their gui  
> toolkit, in free or commercial products, I will release the upcoming  
> version under a MIT license.
>
> Anyway, have you tried venster-ce ?
> I'll be glad to have comments or (constructive :-) criticism !
>   
I'd be keen to try it but would only be able to use LGPL / Python / MIT
license

Cheers
David
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Re: [PythonCE] VensterCE release

2007-03-05 Thread Brian Brown

On Mar 5, 2007, at 9:11 AM, David Fraser wrote:

>>
>> Hello Brian,
>>
>> Well, since I'm a student, I didn't really take into account
>> commercial use. I ideally thought that GPL gives a lot of freedom for
>> free or commercial development.
>> If it encouranges python ce users to choose venster as their gui
>> toolkit, in free or commercial products, I will release the upcoming
>> version under a MIT license.
>>
>> Anyway, have you tried venster-ce ?
>> I'll be glad to have comments or (constructive :-) criticism !
>>
> I'd be keen to try it but would only be able to use LGPL / Python /  
> MIT
> license
>

I think he may have already released it under MIT...

Brian



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[PythonCE] Building under Visual Studio 2005 for Devices

2007-03-05 Thread Christopher Fairbairn
Hi,

I am keen to start contributing to the Windows CE/Windows Mobile port of 
Python. I 
have a lot of commerical development experience in this environment.

I would like to understand the build process for Python in a lot more detail 
than I 
currently do. I thought an ideal way to do this would be to have a goal of 
making 
PythonCE compilable under Visual Studio 2005.

Is anyone able to give me any starting tips on how I might approch this? Should 
I 
look at modifying the SCONS scripts to be able to detect and make use of Visual 
Studio 2005 instead of EVC, or should I go the route used by the PCBuild and 
PCBuild8 directories (i.e. desktop versions) where (I assume) someone has 
manually 
created a bunch of suitable project and solution files?

Thanks.
Christopher Fairbairn


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Re: [PythonCE] Building under Visual Studio 2005 for Devices

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Foord
Christopher Fairbairn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am keen to start contributing to the Windows CE/Windows Mobile port of 
> Python. I 
> have a lot of commerical development experience in this environment.
>
> I would like to understand the build process for Python in a lot more detail 
> than I 
> currently do. I thought an ideal way to do this would be to have a goal of 
> making 
> PythonCE compilable under Visual Studio 2005.
>
> Is anyone able to give me any starting tips on how I might approch this? 
> Should I 
> look at modifying the SCONS scripts to be able to detect and make use of 
> Visual 
> Studio 2005 instead of EVC, or should I go the route used by the PCBuild and 
> PCBuild8 directories (i.e. desktop versions) where (I assume) someone has 
> manually 
> created a bunch of suitable project and solution files?
>
>   
PythonCE is a port of the standard CPython project.

As it happens there is thread going on *right now* on the Python-dev 
mailing list on what it takes to make CPython compilable with VS 2005.

The same techniques would have to be applied to the PythonCE project 
which is essentially just a patched version of vanilla CPython.

Worth browsing the Python-dev mailing archives for this month...

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml


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