Hi Chris,
Sorry for the late reply. ;-/
On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Chris Barker wrote:
Kevin Ollivier wrote:
I can't answer the questions you posed below, as I do almost all
of my
Mac work with wxPython, but when I read about what you're trying
to do
I couldn't help but think that this is exactly what ActiveGrid
AppBuilder is for:
http://www.activegrid.com
Granted, it's wxPython and thus not as lightweight, but apps you
create
with it can be run locally on the user's machine or can be
deployed to
a server with their server components installed. It allows you to
use
SQLite, Oracle, MySQL, or PostGreSQL for the database. It's also
pretty
nice for point-and-click creation of full- fledged database apps,
so the
apps are easy to customize. (See their Petstore demo that comes with
the app.) Not sure what your exact needs are, but this might be at
least worth a look if you haven't seen it already.
No, I hadn't. It's a little hard to tell what the heck it really is
from
the web page..the usual marketing-speak, no mention of wx, for
instance.
It's basically a web app development tool. The big benefit is that
you can use it to very quickly throw this sort of app together (you
can just point it at a database, tell it what forms you want, and
it'll draft a web app for you), which is why I thought you may be
interested in it. It sets up a local server automatically (based on
Python's httpserver, like Quioxte, CherryPy, etc.) so that users can
run and test the web app locally, and then there's a set of server
components to install to a server. So it'd be similar to your
situation now where you'd use py2app/py2exe to bundle the server
components and your web app together.
Of course, if you've already got a static web-app built that you just
want to be able to run on machines with no (or slow) internet access,
then there's probably no need to switch tools. I haven't done a bake-
off of the various httpserver-based web servers out there, so I can't
say for sure which one best deals with the various quirks in various
browsers. (I know that ActiveGrid's server handles the IE post bug
fine where it sends an extra two byte line feed sometimes.)
However, these are our needs:
The web version needs to run on a basic browser, with not extra
plug-ins
or custom clients.
We'd like to make the stand-alone version share as much code as
possible
with the web version. That means the same GUI, which means it would
run
in a browser. It also needs to be a simple install, i.e. not MySQL +
apache + our app. Activegrid really doesn't seem to provide this, but
I'll look into it more.
While I'm talking to Kevin: The other idea I had was to use wxMozilla,
to embed a browser in a wxPython app, then we could use the same
code to
generate all the HTML, and display the UI through wxMozilla, without
having to use a client-server set up and http. This came up because
apparently some Windows systems turn off all TCP/IP when the Ethernet
cable is disconnected.
My question is: with wxMozilla, can you capture all the GET and/or
POST
events, so that you can essentially run a web app and browser all
within
one process?
At present at least, there's no way to do this using wxMozilla.
There're probably ways to do this using some Mozilla hacks, but I
doubt they'd be supported. And considering that even Mozilla's
primary embedding interface is still (as of 1.7.x) considered a
'private' interface subject to change, I'm not sure you could even
rely on the hack to continue working in the future. The server route
is a bit of a pain but is probably the more sustainable solution in
the long run.
Kevin
-Chris
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