Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems building a binary from cpython that can be installed in /Users/{USER}/Library
I would very highly recommend that you not reinvent the wheel here.
But if you really don't like the way Py2App or PyInstaller does it, then I
wouldn't try to build the entire "normal" mac distribution anyway, and
start at a lower level. Maybe look at homebrew for ideas?
BTW -- there's a third option: conda and "conda constructor" -- might be
worth a look.
-CHB
On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 7:57 AM Barry Scott wrote:
>
>
> On 10 Nov 2021, at 20:28, Paul Romer wrote:
>
> I am new to this sig. I hope it is appropriate to pose the following
> detailed question to its members. Let me know if I have misunderstood.
>
> I'll provide a bit of background, specify the steps I took, then describe
> the two issues I'm facing on which I would welcome advice.
>
> =
>
> *Background: *
> I am trying to create a self-contained Python application that a user
> could download and run on MacOS that does not have Python 3 installed. I
> am aware that PyInstaller and py2app are alternative paths for creating
> self-contained apps and am pursuing them in parallel.
>
> The issue I want to describe here arose as part of experiments with the
> process for creating a binary for a recent version of Python (3.9.8) that
> can be installed under the user's home directory.
>
> /Users/{USER}/Library.
>
> According to the information in the cpython repository, it seems that it
> should be possible to build an installer for a full version of Python that
> can be installed someplace on a Mac other than the default location:
> /Library. In particular, one should be able to do this using
>
> build-installer.py
>
> in the
>
> Mac/BuildScript
>
> directory.
>
> *=*
>
> *Steps I Took:*
>
> In the cpython directory I ran:
>
> > ./configure --enable-framework=/Users/{USER}/Library/Frameworks \
> --enable-optimizations
>
>
> Why do you think you need to build CPYTHON at all?
>
> I use py3app with the python.org downloaded versions of python.
>
>
> I confirmed that the Makefile included the line:
>
> CONFIG_ARGS= '--enable-framework=/Users/{USER}/Library/Frameworks'
> '--enable-optimizations'
>
> (I also tried replacing {USER} with the actual user on my system, 'admin'.
> This yielded the same results.)
>
> I put the external files OpenSSL, tcl/tck, ... (details below) that are
> required into the
>
> .../Universal/other-sources
>
> directory. I deleted my install of Python3.9 and backed-up and deleted all
> the files from
>
> /usr/local/bin
>
> Then from
>
> /Mac/BuildScript
>
> I ran
>
> > python3 build-installer.py \
> --universal-archs=intel-64 \
> --dep-target=11
>
> Along the way, there were several warnings, but no errors. The end result
> is a dmg file:
>
> python-3.9.8+-macos12-2021-11-10.dmg
>
> =
>
> *Issues:*
>
> 1. I am not sure how to convert the dmg into a "macOS flat installer
> package" and would welcome any advice on this point.
>
>
>
> You do not need to. All the user needs to do it drag the .app
> folder into (typically) /Applications.
>
>
> 2. But in any case, I do not think that an installer based on this dmg
> will allow an install in the Library of the user. When I inspect the dmg
> file, I find that the post-install scripts include references to the usual
> file location in /Library. For example, the script that runs after
> installing the framework has the lines:
>
> PYVER="3.9"
> FWK="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9"
>
>
> What post-install script? That's not something that py2app does.
>
>
> The script that runs after installing the files for pip has the lines:
>
> PYVER="3.9"
> PYMAJOR="3"
> FWK="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/${PYVER}"
> RELFWKBIN="../../..${FWK}/bin"
>
> This suggests that I have misunderstood the instructions. So I would
> appreciate any advice on how to succeed on this path, or suggestions about
> alternative paths that might work. In particular, the alternative that
> might be feasible would be to use the work from
>
> https://github.com/codrsquad/portable-python
>
> This is a recent project, not the one with the same name that was
> abandoned that you'll find here:
>
> https://portablepython.com/
>
>
> For Barry's Emacs I do 2 steps.
>
> 1. Build the .app bundle.
> 2. Build .dmg that has a bunch of files including the .app bundle.
>
> There may be a bit too much complexity but have look at how I build the
> .app bundle in
>
> https://github.com/barry-scott/BarrysEmacs/blob/master/Editor/PyQtBEmacs/build-macosx.sh
>
> and
>
> https://github.com/barry-scott/BarrysEmacs/blob/master/Editor/PyQtBEmacs/brand.setup-macosx.py
>
> I'm using PyQt not Tk.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for reading through all this!
>
>
> =
>
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems building a binary from cpython that can be installed in /Users/{USER}/Library
> On 10 Nov 2021, at 20:28, Paul Romer wrote:
>
> I am new to this sig. I hope it is appropriate to pose the following detailed
> question to its members. Let me know if I have misunderstood.
>
> I'll provide a bit of background, specify the steps I took, then describe the
> two issues I'm facing on which I would welcome advice.
>
> =
>
> Background:
> I am trying to create a self-contained Python application that a user could
> download and run on MacOS that does not have Python 3 installed. I am aware
> that PyInstaller and py2app are alternative paths for creating self-contained
> apps and am pursuing them in parallel.
>
> The issue I want to describe here arose as part of experiments with the
> process for creating a binary for a recent version of Python (3.9.8) that can
> be installed under the user's home directory.
>
> /Users/{USER}/Library.
>
> According to the information in the cpython repository, it seems that it
> should be possible to build an installer for a full version of Python that
> can be installed someplace on a Mac other than the default location:
> /Library. In particular, one should be able to do this using
>
> build-installer.py
>
> in the
>
> Mac/BuildScript
>
> directory.
>
> =
>
> Steps I Took:
>
> In the cpython directory I ran:
>
> > ./configure --enable-framework=/Users/{USER}/Library/Frameworks \
> --enable-optimizations
Why do you think you need to build CPYTHON at all?
I use py3app with the python.org
>
> This is a recent project, not the one with the same name that was abandoned
> that you'll find here:
>
> https://portablepython.com/
and
https://github.com/barry-scott/BarrysEmacs/blob/master/Editor/PyQtBEmacs/brand.setup-macosx.py
I'm using PyQt not Tk.
Barry
>
>
> Thanks for reading through all this!
>
>
> =
>
> PS: Contents of my .../Universal/other-sources directory:
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 admin staff367573 Nov 10 00:53
> ncurses-5.9-20120616-patch.sh.bz2
> -rw-r--r-- 1 admin staff 28264
[Pythonmac-SIG] Problems building a binary from cpython that can be installed in /Users/{USER}/Library
I am new to this sig. I hope it is appropriate to pose the following
detailed question to its members. Let me know if I have misunderstood.
I'll provide a bit of background, specify the steps I took, then describe
the two issues I'm facing on which I would welcome advice.
=
*Background: *
I am trying to create a self-contained Python application that a user could
download and run on MacOS that does not have Python 3 installed. I am aware
that PyInstaller and py2app are alternative paths for creating
self-contained apps and am pursuing them in parallel.
The issue I want to describe here arose as part of experiments with the
process for creating a binary for a recent version of Python (3.9.8) that
can be installed under the user's home directory.
/Users/{USER}/Library.
According to the information in the cpython repository, it seems that it
should be possible to build an installer for a full version of Python that
can be installed someplace on a Mac other than the default location:
/Library. In particular, one should be able to do this using
build-installer.py
in the
Mac/BuildScript
directory.
*=*
*Steps I Took:*
In the cpython directory I ran:
> ./configure --enable-framework=/Users/{USER}/Library/Frameworks \
--enable-optimizations
I confirmed that the Makefile included the line:
CONFIG_ARGS= '--enable-framework=/Users/{USER}/Library/Frameworks'
'--enable-optimizations'
(I also tried replacing {USER} with the actual user on my system, 'admin'.
This yielded the same results.)
I put the external files OpenSSL, tcl/tck, ... (details below) that are
required into the
.../Universal/other-sources
directory. I deleted my install of Python3.9 and backed-up and deleted all
the files from
/usr/local/bin
Then from
/Mac/BuildScript
I ran
> python3 build-installer.py \
--universal-archs=intel-64 \
--dep-target=11
Along the way, there were several warnings, but no errors. The end result
is a dmg file:
python-3.9.8+-macos12-2021-11-10.dmg
=
*Issues:*
1. I am not sure how to convert the dmg into a "macOS flat installer
package" and would welcome any advice on this point.
2. But in any case, I do not think that an installer based on this dmg will
allow an install in the Library of the user. When I inspect the dmg file, I
find that the post-install scripts include references to the usual file
location in /Library. For example, the script that runs after installing
the framework has the lines:
PYVER="3.9"
FWK="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9"
The script that runs after installing the files for pip has the lines:
PYVER="3.9"
PYMAJOR="3"
FWK="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/${PYVER}"
RELFWKBIN="../../..${FWK}/bin"
This suggests that I have misunderstood the instructions. So I would
appreciate any advice on how to succeed on this path, or suggestions about
alternative paths that might work. In particular, the alternative that
might be feasible would be to use the work from
https://github.com/codrsquad/portable-python
This is a recent project, not the one with the same name that was abandoned
that you'll find here:
https://portablepython.com/
Thanks for reading through all this!
=
PS: Contents of my .../Universal/other-sources directory:
-rw-r--r-- 1 admin staff367573 Nov 10 00:53
ncurses-5.9-20120616-patch.sh.bz2
-rw-r--r-- 1 admin staff 2826473 Nov 10 00:53 ncurses-5.9.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 admin staff 9834044 Nov 9 22:19 openssl-1.1.1l.tar.gz
-rw-rw-rw-@ 1 admin staff 2956627 Nov 10 01:06
sqlite-autoconf-3350500.tar.gz
-rw-rw-rw-@ 1 admin staff 10259009 Nov 9 22:55 tcl8.6.11-src.tar.gz
-rw-rw-rw-@ 1 admin staff 4496914 Nov 10 00:37 tk8.6.11-src.tar.gz
-rw-rw-rw-@ 1 admin staff 1490665 Nov 10 00:45 xz-5.2.3.tar.gz
=
Paul Romer
p...@paulromer.net | paulromer.net | @paulromer
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