Re: Next Plan for AOO 4.0 Testing

2013-06-07 Thread Yuzhen Fan
Daniel,

Thanks a lot! I will assign you more test cases on Win 7, please make sure
to switch the latest snapshot build(contains stlport change) for testing.

We now have another work with more higher priority, that is to do a quick
go through with latest dev snapshot build(contains stlport change), if you
have interest on it, I will send you the general testing list. Thanks!

Regards,
Yu Zhen


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Daniel Alvaro wrote:

> Hello,
> I finished the cases that I had assigned.
>
> Could you assign me more test cases?
> I'm working on win 7
> Regards,
> Daniel Alvaro
>


Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, I. Park  wrote:
> Hello Rob,
>
> O.k., I'm not too sure if your "incorrectly marked CONFIRMED" topic
> mentioned below has to do with Bugzilla, but I noticed on couple
> occasions that when filling out new bugs the CONFIRMED is set by
> default.  I had to go back a few times and change it to UNCONFIRMED.
>

That's fine.  When a tester enters a new bug it probably should be
marked CONFIRMED.  That's because testers know what they are doing and
would only enter a bug report for a bug that was real and
reproducible.

-Rob


> Just my two-cents.
>
> I. Park
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
>>> On 6/6/13 1:54 PM, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
 Hi All,

 Here is the list of identified candidates[1]/[2] which are proposed to
 be 4.0.0 release blockers. Please indicate your selections for release
 blockers by giving 1 vote to 1 bug (the vote field is beside the
 importance field, in a bug form). We hope to get the vote score this
 week, any bugs you think most critical to you, please bring out and
 let's discuss.
>>>
>>> Please wait, I think we have not agreed on this approach. Voting in the
>>> issue is not really helpful. I believe many of these issues can be
>>> removed from list and are probably not valid at all.
>>>
>>> I prefer to discuss showstopper issues on the list as we did for AOO 3.4.
>>>
>>
>> With 3.4 we proposed each release blocker on the list, in its own
>> thread, right?  But it is not going the be much better if we start
>> with 90 new threads.
>>
>> It looks like all the proposed release blockers are marked confirmed.
>> A few of them pre-date AOO 3.4, but most are more recent.
>>
>> But with a further look I see some were incorrectly marked
>> "CONFIRMED".  I think some volunteers when they first started set that
>> field after trying to confirm a defect, without understanding that
>> this state should only set if the confirmation test was successful.
>> So we need to review the comments on each bug to see which ones are
>> actually reproduced.I'll try to clean up a few tonight while I
>> watch TV.
>>
>> Also, we probably need to prioritize.  For example, a "shallow crash"
>> (a crash in a common. top-level operation) is higher priority than a
>> crash that only occurs with a specific malformed document.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>

 [1]
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%3F&sharer_id=249289&list_id=64740
 [2] Also attach the file for the list
 (AOO4.0.0_release_blocker_candidates.ods)

 Regards,
 Yu Zhen




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Re: Regarding test case 1502 (writer)

2013-06-07 Thread Prachi Jain
Thanks Regina,
So do need to update the test case as  "pass"?
 
Prachi
 


 From: Regina Henschel 
To: qa@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Regarding test case 1502 (writer)
  

Hi,

Liu Ping schrieb:
> hi , Prachi
>
> I think the picture object also should  be applicable to Step 4 to Step 10
>
> Indeed  , I can't see rotation section in position and size section in
> sidebar in writer
>
> But I try create a picture and see rotation section in spreadsheet and
> impress
>
> so i suggest you create new bug in bugzilla (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/)

No, it is no bug. Picture inserted in Writer are different from pictures 
inserted in Draw. Write-pictures do not have the ability to rotate. If 
you insert a picture in Draw and then copy it to Writer, then you get a 
Draw-picture and that can be rotated.

Issue for the problem is https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3545

Kind regards
Regina

>
> Thanks your support
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Edwin Sharp  wrote:
>
>> IMHO fail the test.
>> Rotation can not be found.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 18:38, Prachi Jain wrote:
>>> Hi ,
>>>
>>>
>> http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/lib/testcases/archiveData.php?edit=testcase&id=18967
>>>
>>>   Step No. 3   Insert a drawing object, or a picture.
>>>
>>> After inserting drawing object all the test steps (4 to 10) works as
>> expected, but after inserting picture should I need to execute all the
>> steps( 4 to10 ). If yes , then in position and size section I could not see
>> rotation section.Is it a bug? or I just need to run all the test steps for
>> drawing object not for picture. Please help.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>   Prachi
>>
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Re: Regarding test case 1502 (writer)

2013-06-07 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Liu Ping schrieb:

hi , Prachi

I think the picture object also should  be applicable to Step 4 to Step 10

Indeed  , I can't see rotation section in position and size section in
sidebar in writer

But I try create a picture and see rotation section in spreadsheet and
impress

so i suggest you create new bug in bugzilla (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/)


No, it is no bug. Picture inserted in Writer are different from pictures 
inserted in Draw. Write-pictures do not have the ability to rotate. If 
you insert a picture in Draw and then copy it to Writer, then you get a 
Draw-picture and that can be rotated.


Issue for the problem is https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3545

Kind regards
Regina



Thanks your support



On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Edwin Sharp  wrote:


IMHO fail the test.
Rotation can not be found.

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 18:38, Prachi Jain wrote:

Hi ,



http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/lib/testcases/archiveData.php?edit=testcase&id=18967


  Step No. 3   Insert a drawing object, or a picture.

After inserting drawing object all the test steps (4 to 10) works as

expected, but after inserting picture should I need to execute all the
steps( 4 to10 ). If yes , then in position and size section I could not see
rotation section.Is it a bug? or I just need to run all the test steps for
drawing object not for picture. Please help.


Thanks
  Prachi


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Re: Triage for AOO 4.0.0 Release Blockers

2013-06-07 Thread I. Park
Hello Rob,

O.k., I'm not too sure if your "incorrectly marked CONFIRMED" topic
mentioned below has to do with Bugzilla, but I noticed on couple
occasions that when filling out new bugs the CONFIRMED is set by
default.  I had to go back a few times and change it to UNCONFIRMED.

Just my two-cents.

I. Park

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
>> On 6/6/13 1:54 PM, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Here is the list of identified candidates[1]/[2] which are proposed to
>>> be 4.0.0 release blockers. Please indicate your selections for release
>>> blockers by giving 1 vote to 1 bug (the vote field is beside the
>>> importance field, in a bug form). We hope to get the vote score this
>>> week, any bugs you think most critical to you, please bring out and
>>> let's discuss.
>>
>> Please wait, I think we have not agreed on this approach. Voting in the
>> issue is not really helpful. I believe many of these issues can be
>> removed from list and are probably not valid at all.
>>
>> I prefer to discuss showstopper issues on the list as we did for AOO 3.4.
>>
>
> With 3.4 we proposed each release blocker on the list, in its own
> thread, right?  But it is not going the be much better if we start
> with 90 new threads.
>
> It looks like all the proposed release blockers are marked confirmed.
> A few of them pre-date AOO 3.4, but most are more recent.
>
> But with a further look I see some were incorrectly marked
> "CONFIRMED".  I think some volunteers when they first started set that
> field after trying to confirm a defect, without understanding that
> this state should only set if the confirmation test was successful.
> So we need to review the comments on each bug to see which ones are
> actually reproduced.I'll try to clean up a few tonight while I
> watch TV.
>
> Also, we probably need to prioritize.  For example, a "shallow crash"
> (a crash in a common. top-level operation) is higher priority than a
> crash that only occurs with a specific malformed document.
>
> -Rob
>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%3F&sharer_id=249289&list_id=64740
>>> [2] Also attach the file for the list
>>> (AOO4.0.0_release_blocker_candidates.ods)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Yu Zhen
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20130607

2013-06-07 Thread Yuzhen Fan
Hi All,

We continue doing the AOO 4.0 Full Regression test this week, here is the
weekly update (6/3 - 6/7), please find more detail statistics in wiki:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/WeeklyReport/20130607

*Test execution: *
We have assigned 1732 text executions to about 20 volunteers, and completed
about 62% in execution (1072 test execution done). We have exceed the
target a little bit more which is to %100 attempted 1000 test executions
before June 6. Next, we will retest the failed/blocked test executions as
the defects get fixed

*Defect summary:*
1. 46 defects are opened and 24 defects are resolved this week, so we have
18 (46-24) net new defects added in the backlog
2. Expose 1 Redhat specific defect during quick testing on RHEL with 64-bit
Java, Bug 122485 ([Crash]OOO crash when apply animation for table/chart
object) need to set priority as it makes OOO crash

*Issues & quality highlight:*
1. We achieve the execution goal as planned on June 6, the pass rate is 90%
2. Test results on Redhat have been updated from local to Testlink, combine
the general use testing to give assessment on this platform - overall is
good
3. Do general use testing on Redhat for assessment - one crash issue, need
set priority for it
1. Bug 122485 - [Crash]OOO crash when apply animation for table/chart object
4. Initiate the triage of bugs for AOO 4.0.0 release blockers
5. QAs are reminded to make sure to switch to the new snapshot
build(contains stlport change) for testing

*Volunteer status: *
1. We have 1 more volunteer joining test executions
2. No new volunteer(total 6 so far) on defect work, the progress on
confirming defects are low, need more to clean backlog of unconfirmed and
resolved defects

*Plan for next week:*
1. Do testing of upgrading/updating a former AOO/OOo's versions
2. Start acceptance testing on stlport change on Win7/Mac/RHEL/Ubuntu
platforms
3. Work with development to prioritize critical defects as 4.0.0 release
blockers and assign them to Dev volunteers
4. Retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get fixed

Thanks you all for your effort this week, it is a great community here, we
finally achieve the execution target on full regression testing!!

Regards,
Yu Zhen


Re: Regarding test case 1502 (writer)

2013-06-07 Thread Liu Ping
hi , Prachi

I think the picture object also should  be applicable to Step 4 to Step 10

Indeed  , I can't see rotation section in position and size section in
sidebar in writer

But I try create a picture and see rotation section in spreadsheet and
impress

so i suggest you create new bug in bugzilla (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/)

Thanks your support



On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Edwin Sharp  wrote:

> IMHO fail the test.
> Rotation can not be found.
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 18:38, Prachi Jain wrote:
> > Hi ,
> >
> >
> http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/lib/testcases/archiveData.php?edit=testcase&id=18967
> >
> >  Step No. 3   Insert a drawing object, or a picture.
> >
> > After inserting drawing object all the test steps (4 to 10) works as
> expected, but after inserting picture should I need to execute all the
> steps( 4 to10 ). If yes , then in position and size section I could not see
> rotation section.Is it a bug? or I just need to run all the test steps for
> drawing object not for picture. Please help.
> >
> > Thanks
> >  Prachi
>
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Re: Hello from a "simple" user

2013-06-07 Thread Armin Le Grand

Hi Simone and welcome!

On 07.06.2013 00:40, Simone wrote:

My name name is Simon and I use OpenOffice family from several years, also
on works (mainly Write, a little bit Calc; rarely Draw or Impress); i write
nearly 60 pages of paper works, also using macro to interface it with a
software I made.
I said "family" meaning also the LibreOffice fork: I've installed both on
my computers 'cause each has its own good & bad.

My former hope was LibreOffice, now it's OpenOffice 4: I highly appreciated
your public questions about people desires about 4.0 version, because a
great defect in LibreOffice is that, IMHO, they lost the "normal" user (AKA
non-geek) point of view, introducing very specialistic feature, cleaning of
source, improvement in speed, but still remain many ugly interface defects
that make this software less easy to use for a simple user (like my
parents) vs old (but easier) word 97/2000.

I find horrible having non resizeable window in some option window, ugly
the way to redefine toolbar or keyboard, also worse the macro interface,
but also lacking a simple way to put line pages (centered in bottom)
without knowing about fields & c. or  not hint as file name the first line
of the document or a way to save/transfer easily configuration from one
computer to another (also better by clouds).

I'd like to show OO to my friends saying "It's easier than your old Word":
hope I will soon!

If I can help, I'm here.


You can ;-) I think this is a very good statement (!).

I would suggest to make single, concrete suggestions, discuss these and 
- if some agreement - put them as mail to the developer list, or 
directly write feature tasks.
Maybe think about a starting label for tasks and eMails (like 
'[sidebar]' (with the parantheses) was used for sidebar development. 
Make something up e.g. '[UiSImplification]' (probably too long). Use 
that label in eMails as start for the title and for bug reports/feature 
tasks as well to easily reference them.


HTH!

Sincerely,
Armin


*Simone *


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