Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
Am 02/27/2014 04:50 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some serious bugfixes that we have identified already. The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available at the beginning of next. The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably not a good idea. Work remaining before beta 1) Defect verification 2) Release Notes check, update and finalize the release notes [1] 3) Communications Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many users do we want to reach with the beta. 4) Release vote Based on this a possible schedule can be March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper fixes April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 Any opinions or feedback I'll try to make one day off to be available on March 10th the whole day, so we can be flexible with announcements and publications. Marcus [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New QA Volunteer
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jochen Nitschke wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to join the bugzilla qa-team (j.nitsc...@ok.de). > My interests lie in code quality and I would like to learn more about > unit testing. > I read the good volunteer orientation till Level 3 dev & qa, subscribed > some mailing lists and managed to compile the code. > Is it possible to sign me up for mwiki too? I couldn't find a link. > Hello Jochen, I've added you to the qa-team in Bugzilla, so you should be OK there now. We had some spam issues on the MWiki and new accounts were suspended. But Andrea might be able to help you get in. As for testing, we're right now doing verification testing of the 4.1 beta release candidate, to make sure that the critical bugs that the developers marked as fixed are actually fixed. If you want to help with that Yuzhen can help you get started. But you mentioned unit testing... You might want to ask on the dev mailing list about that (d...@openoffice.apache.org). QA doesn't touch unit testing. But we do have a Java/Eclipse based GUI automation testing framework that needs some attention, if you are interested in that. Regards, -Rob > Best regards > Jochen Nitschke > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Edwin Sharp wrote: > IMHO don't implement new icons. If beta is not general public then increase > RC-final duration. > One approach would be to have a "quiet" beta release, announced only on dev, qa, users mailing lists and forum.That will attract users who are already somewhat familiar with the product. Some users might see it as well on our download webpage, but it would not be the default choice. So we might get 1000-2000 users of the beta. If we think we want more, then we can promote it via blog, social network, website home page, etc. This will get more users, potentially 100,000 or more. But that does not mean we get more good quality bug reports in BZ. It could be messy. So it is a trade-off. If we wanted we could start small and then increase the publicity after a week. -Rob > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014, at 17:50, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, >> means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some >> serious bugfixes that we have identified already. >> >> The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over >> the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available >> at the beginning of next. >> >> The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or >> should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably >> not a good idea. >> >> Work remaining before beta >> >> 1) Defect verification >> >> 2) Release Notes >> check, update and finalize the release notes [1] >> >> 3) Communications >> Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many >> users do we want to reach with the beta. >> >> 4) Release vote >> >> Based on this a possible schedule can be >> >> March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote >> March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) >> ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper >> fixes >> April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC >> April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 >> >> Any opinions or feedback >> Juergen >> >> >> [1] >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:38 AM, jan i wrote: > On 27 February 2014 17:18, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 2/27/14 5:11 PM, jan i wrote: >> > On 27 February 2014 16:58, Vladislav Stevanovic < >> > stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Is it too late for update Serbian language? >> >> Wlada >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-02-27 16:50 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Schmidt : >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, >> >>> means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some >> >>> serious bugfixes that we have identified already. >> >>> >> >>> The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over >> >>> the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available >> >>> at the beginning of next. >> >>> >> >>> The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or >> >>> should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably >> >>> not a good idea. >> >>> >> >>> Work remaining before beta >> >>> >> >>> 1) Defect verification >> >>> >> >>> 2) Release Notes >> >>> check, update and finalize the release notes [1] >> >>> >> >>> 3) Communications >> >>> Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many >> >>> users do we want to reach with the beta. >> >>> >> >>> 4) Release vote >> >>> >> >>> Based on this a possible schedule can be >> >>> >> >>> March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote >> >> >> > >> > just for my understanding, dont we need to vote on the beta as well as >> the >> > release. We send the beta out to general public, that would normally >> > require a vote (might be a fast one). >> >> exactly, ---> availability of Beta RC + start vote ;-) >> > > ?? you cannot make the beta available before the vote period for the beta > ends. > Right. That is what it says "availability Beta RC". It is only the Release Candidate that is available before the vote. Before we can release the beta we need to have a release vote on the beta RC. -Rob > Then while the beta is out, we can of course vote for the release. > > rgds > jan I. > > >> >> Juergen >> >> > >> > rgds >> > jan I. >> > >> > >> >>> March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) >> >>> ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper >> >>> fixes >> >>> April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC >> >>> April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 >> >>> >> >>> Any opinions or feedback >> >>> Juergen >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> [1] >> >>> >> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes >> >>> >> >>> - >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
IMHO don't implement new icons. If beta is not general public then increase RC-final duration. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014, at 17:50, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, > means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some > serious bugfixes that we have identified already. > > The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over > the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available > at the beginning of next. > > The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or > should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably > not a good idea. > > Work remaining before beta > > 1) Defect verification > > 2) Release Notes > check, update and finalize the release notes [1] > > 3) Communications > Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many > users do we want to reach with the beta. > > 4) Release vote > > Based on this a possible schedule can be > > March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote > March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) > ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper > fixes > April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC > April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 > > Any opinions or feedback > Juergen > > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
On 27 February 2014 17:18, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 2/27/14 5:11 PM, jan i wrote: > > On 27 February 2014 16:58, Vladislav Stevanovic < > > stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Is it too late for update Serbian language? > >> Wlada > >> > >> > >> 2014-02-27 16:50 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Schmidt : > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, > >>> means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some > >>> serious bugfixes that we have identified already. > >>> > >>> The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over > >>> the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available > >>> at the beginning of next. > >>> > >>> The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or > >>> should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably > >>> not a good idea. > >>> > >>> Work remaining before beta > >>> > >>> 1) Defect verification > >>> > >>> 2) Release Notes > >>> check, update and finalize the release notes [1] > >>> > >>> 3) Communications > >>> Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many > >>> users do we want to reach with the beta. > >>> > >>> 4) Release vote > >>> > >>> Based on this a possible schedule can be > >>> > >>> March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote > >> > > > > just for my understanding, dont we need to vote on the beta as well as > the > > release. We send the beta out to general public, that would normally > > require a vote (might be a fast one). > > exactly, ---> availability of Beta RC + start vote ;-) > ?? you cannot make the beta available before the vote period for the beta ends. Then while the beta is out, we can of course vote for the release. rgds jan I. > > Juergen > > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > >>> March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) > >>> ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper > >>> fixes > >>> April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC > >>> April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 > >>> > >>> Any opinions or feedback > >>> Juergen > >>> > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
On 2/27/14 5:11 PM, jan i wrote: > On 27 February 2014 16:58, Vladislav Stevanovic < > stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Is it too late for update Serbian language? >> Wlada >> >> >> 2014-02-27 16:50 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Schmidt : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, >>> means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some >>> serious bugfixes that we have identified already. >>> >>> The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over >>> the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available >>> at the beginning of next. >>> >>> The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or >>> should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably >>> not a good idea. >>> >>> Work remaining before beta >>> >>> 1) Defect verification >>> >>> 2) Release Notes >>> check, update and finalize the release notes [1] >>> >>> 3) Communications >>> Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many >>> users do we want to reach with the beta. >>> >>> 4) Release vote >>> >>> Based on this a possible schedule can be >>> >>> March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote >> > > just for my understanding, dont we need to vote on the beta as well as the > release. We send the beta out to general public, that would normally > require a vote (might be a fast one). exactly, ---> availability of Beta RC + start vote ;-) Juergen > > rgds > jan I. > > >>> March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) >>> ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper >>> fixes >>> April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC >>> April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 >>> >>> Any opinions or feedback >>> Juergen >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
On 27 February 2014 16:58, Vladislav Stevanovic < stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it too late for update Serbian language? > Wlada > > > 2014-02-27 16:50 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Schmidt : > > > Hi, > > > > we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, > > means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some > > serious bugfixes that we have identified already. > > > > The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over > > the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available > > at the beginning of next. > > > > The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or > > should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably > > not a good idea. > > > > Work remaining before beta > > > > 1) Defect verification > > > > 2) Release Notes > > check, update and finalize the release notes [1] > > > > 3) Communications > > Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many > > users do we want to reach with the beta. > > > > 4) Release vote > > > > Based on this a possible schedule can be > > > > March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote > just for my understanding, dont we need to vote on the beta as well as the release. We send the beta out to general public, that would normally require a vote (might be a fast one). rgds jan I. > > March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) > > ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper > > fixes > > April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC > > April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 > > > > Any opinions or feedback > > Juergen > > > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > >
Re: [RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
Is it too late for update Serbian language? Wlada 2014-02-27 16:50 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Schmidt : > Hi, > > we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, > means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some > serious bugfixes that we have identified already. > > The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over > the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available > at the beginning of next. > > The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or > should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably > not a good idea. > > Work remaining before beta > > 1) Defect verification > > 2) Release Notes > check, update and finalize the release notes [1] > > 3) Communications > Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many > users do we want to reach with the beta. > > 4) Release vote > > Based on this a possible schedule can be > > March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote > March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) > ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper > fixes > April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC > April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 > > Any opinions or feedback > Juergen > > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
[RELEASE]: refined AOO 4.1 beta schedule
Hi, we are still verifying some fixes to identify the Beta as real beta, means some branding elements, names etc. And we are working on some serious bugfixes that we have identified already. The current plan is to start the build tomorrow and do the upload over the weekend. That means we should have a RC for AOO 4.1 beta available at the beginning of next. The new icons are still not complete and I am not sure how we can or should continue here. Replacing them for the final release is probably not a good idea. Work remaining before beta 1) Defect verification 2) Release Notes check, update and finalize the release notes [1] 3) Communications Clarify the communication/promotion for the beta. For example how many users do we want to reach with the beta. 4) Release vote Based on this a possible schedule can be March 4th: availability of AOO 41. Beta RC + start vote March 10th: public availability of AOO 41. Beta (until March 31th) ...: additional snapshot builds based on the beta including showstopper fixes April 2th: availability of AOO 4.1 RC April 7th: public availability of AOO 4.1 Any opinions or feedback Juergen [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
