Re: Need help ?

[Ellen OSullivan]

Thanks Adam and Kamil for your suggestions.

As I said I am fairly new to LInux so a few weeks ago I signed up with
Linux academy and have been coming up to speed.

I was introduced to Unix in the early 80s, sat beside the Ultrix group at
DEC in NH - they were always asking us to see if something worked on our
machine.  That allowed me to get by in Linux when I needed to over the
years - but of course things have changed a bit.

I am also learning by creating, installing and tearing down my own
instances with Virtual box and Digital ocean.

I'll take a look at Fedora gooey karma to start with, see what I can do.
Also take a look at the test system docs.

-Ellen

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Adam Williamson 
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> On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 20:57 +, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> > I'm dev/qa automation at work
>
> BTW, we have two major test automation systems that we work on actively
> at present, Taskotron and openQA. Here are some links to get you
> started reading about those:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Taskotron
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenQA
>
> Unfortunately they're both kinda big projects it's hard to get
> contributing to overnight, but perhaps one of them will pique your
> interest. There should be a decent amount of reading material linked
> from those pages, but let us know if anything seems to be missing or
> hard to understand. Thanks!
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Re: Need help ?

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 20:57 +, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> I'm dev/qa automation at work

BTW, we have two major test automation systems that we work on actively
at present, Taskotron and openQA. Here are some links to get you
started reading about those:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Taskotron
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenQA

Unfortunately they're both kinda big projects it's hard to get
contributing to overnight, but perhaps one of them will pique your
interest. There should be a decent amount of reading material linked
from those pages, but let us know if anything seems to be missing or
hard to understand. Thanks!
-- 
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Re: Need help ?

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 17:23 -0400, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> > > It is worth noting that to obtain a @fedoraproject.org email alias, you 
> > > need to be what is called “CLA+1”.
> 
> I need to become a “CLA+1” -  I am not in a group.   Should I ask in the 
> Fedora-QA list? 

If you just go ahead and follow the group-joining-process explained at
QA/Join, that should get you sponsored into the 'qa' group, which makes
you CLA+1. (I need to go through and check the requests list, though -
I didn't look at it for a couple of weeks). Thanks!

As Kamil mentioned, one task we have ATM is fixing fedora-gooey-karma:

https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/fedora-gooey-karma

to run correctly on recent Fedora releases and/or with current Bodhi
and Koji. There are several bugzilla bugs likely related to this:

https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-gooey-karma/bugs/all

so really the job is just to keep fixing it till it works :P

There is also a task for enhancing fedora-easy-karma:

https://pagure.io/fedora-easy-karma

to handle the Bodhi 2.0 features - mainly, allow you to include
feedback for the feedback items other than "does the update generally
work?":

https://pagure.io/fedora-easy-karma/issue/3

I also see another f-e-k issue related to the Bodhi client library it
uses:

https://pagure.io/fedora-easy-karma/issue/1

Another thing that came up while I was talking to Sumantro at Flock is
that it'd be nice to enhance relvalconsumer:

https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/relvalconsumer

to include a list of the top 5, 10 or 20 most-desired validation test
cases with each announcement of a new validation testing event. This
has substantial overlap with the testcase_stats stuff:

https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/27/
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/relval/blob/master/f/relval/testcase_stats.py

so architecting it could be a bit of a difficult question, I'm not sure
off the top of my head how I'd go about that. It might require
substantial refactoring, or just having relvalconsumer call relval in
some way. But it's another thing that would be nice to have :)

One more thing Sumantro and I discussed is that the tooling that
generates the Heroes of Fedora posts:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Recognition

is kinda messy - you have to do much more manual work than you really
should in order to produce the desired output. It'd be nice to improve
this, perhaps by consolidating the three separate tools somehow, and
improving the way they output data (I think one idea was to have them
output to some machine-friendly intermediate form, e.g. json, then have
parsers for turning that into text, html or whatever else is desired).

Please do ask if you need further information or details on any of
these tasks! Sumantro may have others that I mentioned at Flock but
have since forgotten, too.
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Re: Need help ?

[Kamil Paral]

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Ellen OSullivan  wrote:

> I'm a newbie, would like to help out with something.  I'm dev/qa
> automation at work but fairly new to Linux.  Willing to clean the floors,
> make the coffee :-)
>


Hi Ellen, if you familiarize yourself with testing proposed updates [1] and
providing feedback, and will then want to help out in development tasks
related to that area, we'd really appreciate if somebody could fix the
fedora-gooey-karma tool (packaged in Fedora, just broken atm) [2]. It broke
when Bodhi [3] changed its API to version 2 and nobody had time to fix
f-g-k. Just an idea.

Cheers and see you around,
Kamil


[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing
[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/fedora-gooey-karma
[3] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
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Re: Need help ?

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 05:23:42PM -0400, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> >> It is worth noting that to obtain a @fedoraproject.org email alias, you 
> >> need to be what is called “CLA+1”.
> I need to become a “CLA+1” -  I am not in a group.   Should I ask in
> the Fedora-QA list?

Yeah, I think someone there should be able to sponsor you.

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RE: Need help ?

[Ellen OSullivan]

>> It is worth noting that to obtain a @fedoraproject.org email alias, you need 
>> to be what is called “CLA+1”.

I need to become a “CLA+1” -  I am not in a group.   Should I ask in the 
Fedora-QA list? 

thanks

From: Matthew Miller
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:07 PM
To: Fedora QA Development
Subject: Re: Need help ?

On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 08:57:54PM -, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> I'm a newbie, would like to help out with something.  I'm dev/qa
> automation at work but fairly new to Linux. Willing to clean the
> floors, make the coffee :-)

Hi Ellen, and welcome! I think we need qa automation expertise even
more than we need cleaning and coffeemaking. :)

Have you seen this post on getting started with Fedora QA? 
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/getting-started-fedora-qa-part-1/

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RE: Need help ?

[Ellen OSullivan]

Thanks Matthew, I had not seen that.
Perfect Labor day weekend reading !

From: Matthew Miller
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:07 PM
To: Fedora QA Development
Subject: Re: Need help ?

On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 08:57:54PM -, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> I'm a newbie, would like to help out with something.  I'm dev/qa
> automation at work but fairly new to Linux. Willing to clean the
> floors, make the coffee :-)

Hi Ellen, and welcome! I think we need qa automation expertise even
more than we need cleaning and coffeemaking. :)

Have you seen this post on getting started with Fedora QA? 
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/getting-started-fedora-qa-part-1/

-- 
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<mat...@fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
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Re: Need help ?

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 08:57:54PM -, Ellen OSullivan wrote:
> I'm a newbie, would like to help out with something.  I'm dev/qa
> automation at work but fairly new to Linux. Willing to clean the
> floors, make the coffee :-)

Hi Ellen, and welcome! I think we need qa automation expertise even
more than we need cleaning and coffeemaking. :)

Have you seen this post on getting started with Fedora QA? 
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/getting-started-fedora-qa-part-1/

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Matthew Miller

Fedora Project Leader
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Need help ?

[Ellen OSullivan]

I'm a newbie, would like to help out with something.  I'm dev/qa automation at 
work but fairly new to Linux.  Willing to clean the floors, make the coffee :-)
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