[PATCH v2 2/6] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts

2023-03-02 Thread Thomas Huth
Hardly anybody still uses 32-bit x86 hosts today, so we should start
deprecating them to stop wasting our time and CI minutes here.
For example, there are also still some unresolved problems with these:
When emulating 64-bit binaries in user mode, TCG does not honor atomicity
for 64-bit accesses, which is "perhaps worse than not working at all"
(quoting Richard). Let's simply make it clear that people should use
64-bit x86 hosts nowadays and we do not intend to fix/maintain the old
32-bit stuff.

Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth 
---
 docs/about/deprecated.rst | 12 
 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
index 11700adac9..a30aa8dfdf 100644
--- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
+++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
@@ -208,6 +208,18 @@ CI coverage support may bitrot away before the deprecation 
process
 completes. The little endian variants of MIPS (both 32 and 64 bit) are
 still a supported host architecture.
 
+32-bit x86 hosts (since 8.0)
+
+
+Support for 32-bit x86 host deployments is increasingly uncommon in
+mainstream OS distributions given the widespread availability of 64-bit
+x86 hardware. The QEMU project no longer considers 32-bit x86 support
+to be an effective use of its limited resources, and thus intends to
+discontinue it. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10 years
+is capable of the 64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS
+should be used instead.
+
+
 QEMU API (QAPI) events
 --
 
-- 
2.31.1




Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts

2023-03-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 05:31:02PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> Hardly anybody still uses 32-bit x86 hosts today, so we should start
> deprecating them to stop wasting our time and CI minutes here.
> For example, there are also still some unresolved problems with these:
> When emulating 64-bit binaries in user mode, TCG does not honor atomicity
> for 64-bit accesses, which is "perhaps worse than not working at all"
> (quoting Richard). Let's simply make it clear that people should use
> 64-bit x86 hosts nowadays and we do not intend to fix/maintain the old
> 32-bit stuff.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth 
> ---
>  docs/about/deprecated.rst | 12 
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)

Reviewed-by: Daniel P. Berrangé 

> 
> diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> index 11700adac9..a30aa8dfdf 100644
> --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> @@ -208,6 +208,18 @@ CI coverage support may bitrot away before the 
> deprecation process
>  completes. The little endian variants of MIPS (both 32 and 64 bit) are
>  still a supported host architecture.
>  
> +32-bit x86 hosts (since 8.0)
> +
> +
> +Support for 32-bit x86 host deployments is increasingly uncommon in
> +mainstream OS distributions given the widespread availability of 64-bit
> +x86 hardware. The QEMU project no longer considers 32-bit x86 support
> +to be an effective use of its limited resources, and thus intends to
> +discontinue it. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10 years
> +is capable of the 64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS
> +should be used instead.
> +
> +
>  QEMU API (QAPI) events
>  --
>  
> -- 
> 2.31.1
> 

With regards,
Daniel
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Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts

2023-03-02 Thread Wilfred Mallawa
On Thu, 2023-03-02 at 17:31 +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> Hardly anybody still uses 32-bit x86 hosts today, so we should start
> deprecating them to stop wasting our time and CI minutes here.
> For example, there are also still some unresolved problems with
> these:
> When emulating 64-bit binaries in user mode, TCG does not honor
> atomicity
> for 64-bit accesses, which is "perhaps worse than not working at all"
> (quoting Richard). Let's simply make it clear that people should use
> 64-bit x86 hosts nowadays and we do not intend to fix/maintain the
> old
> 32-bit stuff.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth 
> ---
>  docs/about/deprecated.rst | 12 
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
Reviewed-by: Wilfred Mallawa 
> 
> diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> index 11700adac9..a30aa8dfdf 100644
> --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> @@ -208,6 +208,18 @@ CI coverage support may bitrot away before the
> deprecation process
>  completes. The little endian variants of MIPS (both 32 and 64 bit)
> are
>  still a supported host architecture.
>  
> +32-bit x86 hosts (since 8.0)
> +
> +
> +Support for 32-bit x86 host deployments is increasingly uncommon in
> +mainstream OS distributions given the widespread availability of 64-
> bit
> +x86 hardware. The QEMU project no longer considers 32-bit x86
> support
> +to be an effective use of its limited resources, and thus intends to
> +discontinue it. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10
> years
> +is capable of the 64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS
> +should be used instead.
> +
> +
>  QEMU API (QAPI) events
>  --
>