Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-06 Thread Fabien Chouteau
On 03/06/2013 12:08 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
 On 5 March 2013 23:07, Fabien Chouteau chout...@adacore.com wrote:
 On 03/05/2013 01:33 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
 IE + BE8 (data) looks very very similar to BE32 from the point of view
 of code on the CPU; it is code that expects a BE32 kind of view of
 the world that is the legacy code being supported.


 That's what I fail to understand, why IE + BE8 (data) gives a legacy
 BE32 view?

 Because the only way to tell the difference between BE32 and BE8
 is if you have two views of the data in memory, so you can tell
 whether it's the byte accesses that are getting flipped or the
 word accesses. Those two views could be:
  * via the Iside vs the Dside [but with IE enabled both get flipped]
  * by switching the core between BE and LE [you can't on R profile]
  * by using another core which is LE [there is none]
  * by looking at what peripheral devices see when you write words
to them [the legacy code is assumed not to have direct dev access,
or you could design your board so it looks like what the code
expects]

Alright I get it. It looks similar to legacy BE32 because both
instruction and data use the same byte order. From the code point of
view it's the same, but in fact the data in RAM are different.

 When I build my qemu-system-armeb, in what mode is it (BE8, BE32, data
 and/or instruction in big-endian)?

 It will effectively behave kind of like a BE32 (word invariant, swaps
 both code and data) system; you won't be able to tell the difference
 between that and the BE8+SCTLR.IE system you're trying to emulate,
 except for accesses to word-width registers on device models.
 That needs thought to make sure the changes are actually coherent.


 So the current behavior of qemu-system-armeb is BE8+IE, therefore not
 compatible with any non R profile ARMv6/7.

 Well, the current behaviour is nothing at all since we don't
 actually build it. In enabling it, you have to ensure that
 the behaviour you enable makes sense.


It makes sense for me, as I have the same executable working on the real
board (TMS570L31, Cortex-R4F BE-8 + IE) and on qemu-system-armeb. In the
3 devices I implemented (Memory region in DEVICE_NATIVE_ENDIAN), I had
no byte ordering problems.

Regards,

-- 
Fabien Chouteau



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-05 Thread Fabien Chouteau
On 03/04/2013 02:24 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
 On 03/01/2013 09:58 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
 +#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
 +if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
 +|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
 +/* IE and EE bits stay set for big-endian */
 +env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
 +}
 +#endif

 This is wrong for all the CPUs QEMU crrently supports. SCTLR.IE is
 defined to be zero.

 Again I'd like to have more information. Why is it wrong to set IE when
 we are in big-endian?

 The ARM architecture defines two big-endian modes.  In BE8 mode only data 
 accesses big-endian, code fetches are still little-endian.  In BE32 mode both 
 code and data are big-endian.  In theory a fourth mode (big-endian code, 
 little-endian data) exists, though I've never seen that used.


I'm a bit lost. You say that BE32 means data and instruction in
big-endian and BE8 only data in big-endian. And this is confirmed by
Peter's article :
(http://translatedcode.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/this-end-up/).

For me there's two different things:
- big-endian kind: BE32 or BE8
- endianness of data/instruction

Is it possible to have both data and instruction in BE8?

Now in the ARMv7 ARM chapter A3.3.2:

Instruction endianness static configuration, ARMv7-R only

To provide support for legacy big-endian object code, the ARMv7-R
profile supports optional byte order reversal hardware as a static
option from reset. The ARMv7-R profile includes a read-only bit in the
CP15 Control Register, SCTLR.IE, bit [31]. For more information, see c1,
System Control Register (SCTLR) on page B4-45.

Since it is a legacy support, I would imagine that SCTLR.IE means BE32
access for instructions. Is that right?

 All the v7 cores QEMU currently supports[1] only implement BE8 mode.  The IE 
 bit is reserved and most be zero.  Usermode emulation implements both, but 
 the 
 privileged cp15 registers can safely be ignored there.


When I build my qemu-system-armeb, in what mode is it (BE8, BE32, data
and/or instruction in big-endian)?

Thanks,

-- 
Fabien Chouteau



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-05 Thread Peter Maydell
On 5 March 2013 18:56, Fabien Chouteau chout...@adacore.com wrote:
 On 03/04/2013 02:24 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
 On 03/01/2013 09:58 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
 +#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
 +if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
 +|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
 +/* IE and EE bits stay set for big-endian */
 +env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
 +}
 +#endif

 This is wrong for all the CPUs QEMU crrently supports. SCTLR.IE is
 defined to be zero.

 Again I'd like to have more information. Why is it wrong to set IE when
 we are in big-endian?

It's wrong because you're setting IE for all v6 and v7 cores
in bigendian mode, when IE is only valid for R profile cores.

To correctly emulate a bigendian v6/v7 non-R profile core you would
need to arrange for the bswap_code flag to be set (which then causes
us to re-byte-swap code accesses to undo the endianness flip that
TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN would otherwise give us). I suspect that what
you actually want is:
 * sctlr bit IE is read-only, and set to 0 or 1 according to the
   sctlr reset value defined for the CPU type
 * the bswap_code flag is set to 1 if TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN 
   SCTLR.IE == 0)
but that's just off the top of my head so might be wrong.

 The ARM architecture defines two big-endian modes.  In BE8 mode only data
 accesses big-endian, code fetches are still little-endian.  In BE32 mode both
 code and data are big-endian.  In theory a fourth mode (big-endian code,
 little-endian data) exists, though I've never seen that used.

 I'm a bit lost. You say that BE32 means data and instruction in
 big-endian and BE8 only data in big-endian. And this is confirmed by
 Peter's article :
 (http://translatedcode.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/this-end-up/).

 For me there's two different things:
 - big-endian kind: BE32 or BE8
 - endianness of data/instruction

 Is it possible to have both data and instruction in BE8?

Yes; this is precisely what SCTLR.IE enables.

 Now in the ARMv7 ARM chapter A3.3.2:

 Instruction endianness static configuration, ARMv7-R only

 To provide support for legacy big-endian object code, the ARMv7-R
 profile supports optional byte order reversal hardware as a static
 option from reset. The ARMv7-R profile includes a read-only bit in the
 CP15 Control Register, SCTLR.IE, bit [31]. For more information, see c1,
 System Control Register (SCTLR) on page B4-45.

 Since it is a legacy support, I would imagine that SCTLR.IE means BE32
 access for instructions. Is that right?

No. It is supporting legacy code; it is not itself a legacy feature.
IE + BE8 (data) looks very very similar to BE32 from the point of view
of code on the CPU; it is code that expects a BE32 kind of view of
the world that is the legacy code being supported.

 All the v7 cores QEMU currently supports[1] only implement BE8 mode.  The IE
 bit is reserved and most be zero.  Usermode emulation implements both, but 
 the
 privileged cp15 registers can safely be ignored there.


 When I build my qemu-system-armeb, in what mode is it (BE8, BE32, data
 and/or instruction in big-endian)?

It will effectively behave kind of like a BE32 (word invariant, swaps
both code and data) system; you won't be able to tell the difference
between that and the BE8+SCTLR.IE system you're trying to emulate,
except for accesses to word-width registers on device models.
That needs thought to make sure the changes are actually coherent.

-- PMM



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-05 Thread Fabien Chouteau
On 03/05/2013 01:33 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
 On 5 March 2013 18:56, Fabien Chouteau chout...@adacore.com wrote:
 On 03/04/2013 02:24 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
 On 03/01/2013 09:58 PM, Paul Brook wrote:

 This is wrong for all the CPUs QEMU crrently supports. SCTLR.IE is
 defined to be zero.

 Again I'd like to have more information. Why is it wrong to set IE when
 we are in big-endian?
 
 It's wrong because you're setting IE for all v6 and v7 cores
 in bigendian mode, when IE is only valid for R profile cores.
 

Right, that's something I missed, SCTLR.IE is for R profiles only.

 To correctly emulate a bigendian v6/v7 non-R profile core you would
 need to arrange for the bswap_code flag to be set (which then causes
 us to re-byte-swap code accesses to undo the endianness flip that
 TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN would otherwise give us). I suspect that what
 you actually want is:
  * sctlr bit IE is read-only, and set to 0 or 1 according to the
sctlr reset value defined for the CPU type

It's actually more of a board setting.

  * the bswap_code flag is set to 1 if TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN 
SCTLR.IE == 0)
 but that's just off the top of my head so might be wrong.


If it's that simple (i.e. set the bswap_code flag) I can try to do it,
otherwise I'll just pass. My main interest here is cortex-R4.


 Is it possible to have both data and instruction in BE8?

 Yes; this is precisely what SCTLR.IE enables.

OK good, that makes sense.

 Since it is a legacy support, I would imagine that SCTLR.IE means BE32
 access for instructions. Is that right?

 No. It is supporting legacy code; it is not itself a legacy feature.
 IE + BE8 (data) looks very very similar to BE32 from the point of view
 of code on the CPU; it is code that expects a BE32 kind of view of
 the world that is the legacy code being supported.


That's what I fail to understand, why IE + BE8 (data) gives a legacy
BE32 view?

 All the v7 cores QEMU currently supports[1] only implement BE8 mode.  The IE
 bit is reserved and most be zero.  Usermode emulation implements both, but 
 the
 privileged cp15 registers can safely be ignored there.


 When I build my qemu-system-armeb, in what mode is it (BE8, BE32, data
 and/or instruction in big-endian)?

 It will effectively behave kind of like a BE32 (word invariant, swaps
 both code and data) system; you won't be able to tell the difference
 between that and the BE8+SCTLR.IE system you're trying to emulate,
 except for accesses to word-width registers on device models.
 That needs thought to make sure the changes are actually coherent.


So the current behavior of qemu-system-armeb is BE8+IE, therefore not
compatible with any non R profile ARMv6/7.


Thanks,

-- 
Fabien Chouteau



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-05 Thread Peter Maydell
On 5 March 2013 23:07, Fabien Chouteau chout...@adacore.com wrote:
 On 03/05/2013 01:33 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
 To correctly emulate a bigendian v6/v7 non-R profile core you would
 need to arrange for the bswap_code flag to be set (which then causes
 us to re-byte-swap code accesses to undo the endianness flip that
 TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN would otherwise give us). I suspect that what
 you actually want is:
  * sctlr bit IE is read-only, and set to 0 or 1 according to the
sctlr reset value defined for the CPU type

 It's actually more of a board setting.

True, but since we only support fixed endian cores we can just
have the CPU type set the reset value according to TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN.
(Having boards fiddle with CPU config is not something we have
the qemu infrastructure for just yet.)

 IE + BE8 (data) looks very very similar to BE32 from the point of view
 of code on the CPU; it is code that expects a BE32 kind of view of
 the world that is the legacy code being supported.


 That's what I fail to understand, why IE + BE8 (data) gives a legacy
 BE32 view?

Because the only way to tell the difference between BE32 and BE8
is if you have two views of the data in memory, so you can tell
whether it's the byte accesses that are getting flipped or the
word accesses. Those two views could be:
 * via the Iside vs the Dside [but with IE enabled both get flipped]
 * by switching the core between BE and LE [you can't on R profile]
 * by using another core which is LE [there is none]
 * by looking at what peripheral devices see when you write words
   to them [the legacy code is assumed not to have direct dev access,
   or you could design your board so it looks like what the code
   expects]

 When I build my qemu-system-armeb, in what mode is it (BE8, BE32, data
 and/or instruction in big-endian)?

 It will effectively behave kind of like a BE32 (word invariant, swaps
 both code and data) system; you won't be able to tell the difference
 between that and the BE8+SCTLR.IE system you're trying to emulate,
 except for accesses to word-width registers on device models.
 That needs thought to make sure the changes are actually coherent.


 So the current behavior of qemu-system-armeb is BE8+IE, therefore not
 compatible with any non R profile ARMv6/7.

Well, the current behaviour is nothing at all since we don't
actually build it. In enabling it, you have to ensure that
the behaviour you enable makes sense.

-- PMM



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-04 Thread Fabien Chouteau
On 03/01/2013 09:58 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
 +#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
 +if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
 +|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
 +/* IE and EE bits stay set for big-endian */
 +env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
 +}
 +#endif
 
 This is wrong for all the CPUs QEMU crrently supports. SCTLR.IE is defined to 
 be zero.
 

Again I'd like to have more information. Why is it wrong to set IE when
we are in big-endian?

Thanks,

-- 
Fabien Chouteau



Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-04 Thread Paul Brook
 On 03/01/2013 09:58 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
  +#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
  +if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
  +|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
  +/* IE and EE bits stay set for big-endian */
  +env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
  +}
  +#endif
  
  This is wrong for all the CPUs QEMU crrently supports. SCTLR.IE is
  defined to be zero.
 
 Again I'd like to have more information. Why is it wrong to set IE when
 we are in big-endian?

The ARM architecture defines two big-endian modes.  In BE8 mode only data 
accesses big-endian, code fetches are still little-endian.  In BE32 mode both 
code and data are big-endian.  In theory a fourth mode (big-endian code, 
little-endian data) exists, though I've never seen that used.

All the v7 cores QEMU currently supports[1] only implement BE8 mode.  The IE 
bit is reserved and most be zero.  Usermode emulation implements both, but the 
privileged cp15 registers can safely be ignored there.

Paul

[1] Except maybe the M profile cores, but they use a different system model 
anyway.



[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-01 Thread Fabien Chouteau
CPSR.E, SCTLR.EE and SCTLR.IE

Signed-off-by: Fabien Chouteau chout...@adacore.com
---
 target-arm/cpu.c|   11 +++
 target-arm/helper.c |   18 ++
 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+)

diff --git a/target-arm/cpu.c b/target-arm/cpu.c
index 5dfcb74..354843e 100644
--- a/target-arm/cpu.c
+++ b/target-arm/cpu.c
@@ -112,6 +112,17 @@ static void arm_cpu_reset(CPUState *s)
 }
 env-vfp.xregs[ARM_VFP_FPEXC] = 0;
 #endif
+
+#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
+if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6) || arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
+/* Set IE and EE bits for big-endian */
+env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
+
+/* Set E bit for big-endian */
+env-uncached_cpsr |= CPSR_E;
+}
+#endif
+
 set_flush_to_zero(1, env-vfp.standard_fp_status);
 set_flush_inputs_to_zero(1, env-vfp.standard_fp_status);
 set_default_nan_mode(1, env-vfp.standard_fp_status);
diff --git a/target-arm/helper.c b/target-arm/helper.c
index 75ee0dc..e539186 100644
--- a/target-arm/helper.c
+++ b/target-arm/helper.c
@@ -1017,6 +1017,15 @@ static const ARMCPRegInfo lpae_cp_reginfo[] = {
 static int sctlr_write(CPUARMState *env, const ARMCPRegInfo *ri, uint64_t 
value)
 {
 env-cp15.c1_sys = value;
+
+#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
+if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
+|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
+/* IE and EE bits stay set for big-endian */
+env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
+}
+#endif
+
 /* ??? Lots of these bits are not implemented.  */
 /* This may enable/disable the MMU, so do a TLB flush.  */
 tlb_flush(env, 1);
@@ -1509,6 +1518,15 @@ void cpsr_write(CPUARMState *env, uint32_t val, uint32_t 
mask)
 }
 mask = ~CACHED_CPSR_BITS;
 env-uncached_cpsr = (env-uncached_cpsr  ~mask) | (val  mask);
+
+#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
+if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
+|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
+/* E bit stays set for big-endian */
+env-uncached_cpsr |= CPSR_E;
+}
+#endif
+
 }
 
 /* Sign/zero extend */
-- 
1.7.9.5




Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] target-arm: always set endian bits in big-endian mode

2013-03-01 Thread Paul Brook
 +#ifdef TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN
 +if (arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V6)
 +|| arm_feature(env, ARM_FEATURE_V7)) {
 +/* IE and EE bits stay set for big-endian */
 +env-cp15.c1_sys |= (1  31) | (1  25);
 +}
 +#endif

This is wrong for all the CPUs QEMU crrently supports. SCTLR.IE is defined to 
be zero.

Paul