Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qcow2 spec: Describe string header extensions

2019-03-08 Thread Kevin Wolf
Am 07.03.2019 um 18:40 hat Eric Blake geschrieben:
> On 3/7/19 10:53 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Be more specific about the string representation in header extensions.
> > 
> > Suggested-by: Stefan Hajnoczi 
> > Signed-off-by: Kevin Wolf 
> > ---
> >  docs/interop/qcow2.txt | 14 --
> >  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> 
> Based-on: <20190227172256.30368-1-kw...@redhat.com>
> 
> >  
> >  
> > +== String header extensions ==
> > +
> > +Some header extensions (such as the backing file format name and the 
> > external
> > +data file name) are just a single string. In this case, the header 
> > extension
> > +length is the string length and the string is not '\0' terminated. (The 
> > header
> > +extension padding can make it look like a string is '\0' terminated, but
> > +neither is padding always necessary nor is there a guarantee that zero 
> > bytes
> > +are used for padding.)
> 
> We didn't require 0 padding?  (goes and re-reads) - oops, yes that's
> correct.

Yes. QEMU does use zeroes, but the spec doesn't mandate it and changing
it would be an incompatible change. And the worst that could happen is
that someone leaves a hidden message in the padding, which doesn't
really hurt.

> It makes it harder to extend a struct by making use of that
> padding if you can't guarantee what the padding had to be prior to the
> extension, and means that you have to consider whether there are any
> potential security risks of the padding being used as a side channel to
> leak information while still being a well-formed file.

It doesn't actually make it harder because we have the length field
which tells us the exact length of the valid data, so we shouldn't even
try to use any of the padding.

> But changing the standard to require zero padding is different than
> documenting existing practice, so your patch is correct.
> 
> Reviewed-by: Eric Blake 

Thanks!

Kevin


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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qcow2 spec: Describe string header extensions

2019-03-07 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 05:53:03PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Be more specific about the string representation in header extensions.
> 
> Suggested-by: Stefan Hajnoczi 
> Signed-off-by: Kevin Wolf 
> ---
>  docs/interop/qcow2.txt | 14 --
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi 


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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qcow2 spec: Describe string header extensions

2019-03-07 Thread Eric Blake
On 3/7/19 10:53 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Be more specific about the string representation in header extensions.
> 
> Suggested-by: Stefan Hajnoczi 
> Signed-off-by: Kevin Wolf 
> ---
>  docs/interop/qcow2.txt | 14 --
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 

Based-on: <20190227172256.30368-1-kw...@redhat.com>

>  
>  
> +== String header extensions ==
> +
> +Some header extensions (such as the backing file format name and the external
> +data file name) are just a single string. In this case, the header extension
> +length is the string length and the string is not '\0' terminated. (The 
> header
> +extension padding can make it look like a string is '\0' terminated, but
> +neither is padding always necessary nor is there a guarantee that zero bytes
> +are used for padding.)

We didn't require 0 padding?  (goes and re-reads) - oops, yes that's
correct. It makes it harder to extend a struct by making use of that
padding if you can't guarantee what the padding had to be prior to the
extension, and means that you have to consider whether there are any
potential security risks of the padding being used as a side channel to
leak information while still being a well-formed file. But changing the
standard to require zero padding is different than documenting existing
practice, so your patch is correct.

Reviewed-by: Eric Blake 

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.   +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org



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