Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-22 Thread Karel Gardas

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, J. Mayer wrote:


On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 17:33 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jocelyn Mayer wrote:


That would be cool, since this will also help me with booting
RTEMS/PowerPC apps (which are also standard multi-boot elfs)
Unfortunately, I've not been able to come with any patch for this yet...


You should be able to boot an ELF image using -kernel option.
Or it has been broken once again...
I have to check this point.


Could you be so kind and let me know if it works on qemu trunk? There is a
lot of unknown variables in this equation. Perhaps also RTEMS might be
broken, or Qemu don't like RTEMS way of dealing with PPC750/eMesquito
board...


I will check with a kernel Linux for the PREP target.
But it would be great if you give me a link to a small test image so I
may be able to debug this case and keep it to test regressions with
future versions of OHW / Qemu...


Now, I've build mcp750 BSP of RTEMS 4.7 and using this I've build simple 
hello world example. Please consider that I do _not_ have this board so I 
can not verify at all if the example works or not. Anyway, build process 
produced two executables:


silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$ file hello.exe
hello.exe: x86 boot sector
silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$ file hello.nxe
hello.nxe: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (SYSV), 
statically linked, not stripped
silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$

which is nice since I know even PPC/linux is the `x86 boot sector' file 
type.


For verification that -kernel might be used w/o -hda, I've tried PREP 
linux kernel and it booted well. I haven't had any luck with booting elf 
file `hello.nxe' above, since hackware complain about ``ERROR: Found no 
boot partition''. When I test hello.exe, it at least doesn't complain, but 
also doesn't boot. Now I can see:


Load raw file into memory at 10 160572 (0002733c) 0 ()

at console and when I switch to serial console I even see:

PREP boot... 100200 10
ERROR: BUG caught...
System call exception
nip=0x00100288 msr=0x2030 dar=0x dsisr=0x
Stopping execution


Anyway, you can find all interesting files here:

http://web.iol.cz/kgardas/o-optimize.tar.gz

There is also build.txt containing build log included. You will see that 
hello.exe is really build ala linux way: bootloaded, gziped elf image and 
something else together.


Please let me know if you need anything special. Some RTEMS users already 
promissed to test if RTEMS/mcp750 runs well now, so we will at least know 
that it should work well.


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread J. Mayer
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 09:45 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> After checking strings it looks like bootfile.exe is a bootloader that
> pounds openfirmware rather extensively.
> 
> Hmm.  Is there a way to load a real ibm firmware into qemu?  Since I
> have access to machines it might be an interesting experiment.

You can try to replace the Open Hack'Ware image by an IBM BIOS.
I tried this long ago and it did not work, but a lot of things have been
improved in Qemu since then.
But maybe we need a hardware emulation closer to some IBM machine, not a
generic PREP, for this to work.
> On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 09:30 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 22:49 +0200, J. Mayer wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> > > > All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
> > > > missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
> > > > to try to boot aix on qemu.
> > > 
> > > There was a broken link.
> > > I just fixed it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > > But, for your information, AIX boot has been tested and does not boot.
> > > The reason is it use a specific boot file format (with AIXM magic at
> > > start) and I did not spent any time to discover where is stored the code
> > > offset (but I know what the offset value is).
> > > As reported in OHW README, I did test AIX 4.3.3 & 5.1.
> > > 
> > 
> > Would booting the bootfile.exe from the CD directly via -kernel be a
> > future option to work around the AIXM magic?  The exe looks to be a
> > standard ELF file for powerpc.  It might be interesting to see what that
> > file actually does (i.e. if its the kernel or a boot loader)
> > 
> > Brian

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread J. Mayer
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 17:33 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jocelyn Mayer wrote:
> 
> >> That would be cool, since this will also help me with booting
> >> RTEMS/PowerPC apps (which are also standard multi-boot elfs)
> >> Unfortunately, I've not been able to come with any patch for this yet...
> >
> > You should be able to boot an ELF image using -kernel option.
> > Or it has been broken once again...
> > I have to check this point.
> 
> Could you be so kind and let me know if it works on qemu trunk? There is a 
> lot of unknown variables in this equation. Perhaps also RTEMS might be 
> broken, or Qemu don't like RTEMS way of dealing with PPC750/eMesquito 
> board...

I will check with a kernel Linux for the PREP target.
But it would be great if you give me a link to a small test image so I
may be able to debug this case and keep it to test regressions with
future versions of OHW / Qemu...

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread Karel Gardas

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jocelyn Mayer wrote:


That would be cool, since this will also help me with booting
RTEMS/PowerPC apps (which are also standard multi-boot elfs)
Unfortunately, I've not been able to come with any patch for this yet...


You should be able to boot an ELF image using -kernel option.
Or it has been broken once again...
I have to check this point.


Could you be so kind and let me know if it works on qemu trunk? There is a 
lot of unknown variables in this equation. Perhaps also RTEMS might be 
broken, or Qemu don't like RTEMS way of dealing with PPC750/eMesquito 
board...


BTW: I'm using -M prep

Thanks!
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread Jocelyn Mayer
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:54 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> 
> >> But, for your information, AIX boot has been tested and does not boot.
> >> The reason is it use a specific boot file format (with AIXM magic at
> >> start) and I did not spent any time to discover where is stored the code
> >> offset (but I know what the offset value is).
> >> As reported in OHW README, I did test AIX 4.3.3 & 5.1.
> >>
> >
> > Would booting the bootfile.exe from the CD directly via -kernel be a
> > future option to work around the AIXM magic?  The exe looks to be a
> > standard ELF file for powerpc.

Yes, you should be able to do this.
It may fail if the ELF is to be called with special parameters set up by
a first stage bootloader.

> That would be cool, since this will also help me with booting 
> RTEMS/PowerPC apps (which are also standard multi-boot elfs)
> Unfortunately, I've not been able to come with any patch for this yet...

You should be able to boot an ELF image using -kernel option.
Or it has been broken once again...
I have to check this point.

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread Karel Gardas

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:


But, for your information, AIX boot has been tested and does not boot.
The reason is it use a specific boot file format (with AIXM magic at
start) and I did not spent any time to discover where is stored the code
offset (but I know what the offset value is).
As reported in OHW README, I did test AIX 4.3.3 & 5.1.



Would booting the bootfile.exe from the CD directly via -kernel be a
future option to work around the AIXM magic?  The exe looks to be a
standard ELF file for powerpc.


That would be cool, since this will also help me with booting 
RTEMS/PowerPC apps (which are also standard multi-boot elfs)

Unfortunately, I've not been able to come with any patch for this yet...

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread Brian Wheeler
After checking strings it looks like bootfile.exe is a bootloader that
pounds openfirmware rather extensively.

Hmm.  Is there a way to load a real ibm firmware into qemu?  Since I
have access to machines it might be an interesting experiment.

Brian

On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 09:30 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 22:49 +0200, J. Mayer wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> > > All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
> > > missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
> > > to try to boot aix on qemu.
> > 
> > There was a broken link.
> > I just fixed it.
> > 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > But, for your information, AIX boot has been tested and does not boot.
> > The reason is it use a specific boot file format (with AIXM magic at
> > start) and I did not spent any time to discover where is stored the code
> > offset (but I know what the offset value is).
> > As reported in OHW README, I did test AIX 4.3.3 & 5.1.
> > 
> 
> Would booting the bootfile.exe from the CD directly via -kernel be a
> future option to work around the AIXM magic?  The exe looks to be a
> standard ELF file for powerpc.  It might be interesting to see what that
> file actually does (i.e. if its the kernel or a boot loader)
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-21 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 22:49 +0200, J. Mayer wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> > All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
> > missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
> > to try to boot aix on qemu.
> 
> There was a broken link.
> I just fixed it.
> 

Thanks.

> But, for your information, AIX boot has been tested and does not boot.
> The reason is it use a specific boot file format (with AIXM magic at
> start) and I did not spent any time to discover where is stored the code
> offset (but I know what the offset value is).
> As reported in OHW README, I did test AIX 4.3.3 & 5.1.
> 

Would booting the bootfile.exe from the CD directly via -kernel be a
future option to work around the AIXM magic?  The exe looks to be a
standard ELF file for powerpc.  It might be interesting to see what that
file actually does (i.e. if its the kernel or a boot loader)

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-20 Thread J. Mayer
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
> missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
> to try to boot aix on qemu.

There was a broken link.
I just fixed it.

But, for your information, AIX boot has been tested and does not boot.
The reason is it use a specific boot file format (with AIXM magic at
start) and I did not spent any time to discover where is stored the code
offset (but I know what the offset value is).
As reported in OHW README, I did test AIX 4.3.3 & 5.1.

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Re: system emulation booting elf files [was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question]

2005-07-17 Thread Karel Gardas

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Natalia Portillo wrote:


Use the -kernel command line option to supply the ELF executable to
boot.

In OHW there is a known problem that surely will prevent doing that
in QEMU System PPC, but in QEMU System x86 it should work without
problem.


Are you sure it should really work? The problem is that -kernel option 
requires -hda option to be supplied, if I understand sources well, it uses 
it to load disc partition table into memory. Also the kernel binary 
supplied is "normal" zImage, which means it contains x86 boot sector, 
which makes me curious if the boot sector is really used or not.


Anyway, if I try this:

silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$ qemu -kernel ./hello.exe 
-hda /images/rtems.img

where rtems.img is the hardisk image where I store some rtems examples, 
then Qemu only prints usual messages and ``Booting from Hard Disc...'' and 
that's all, nothing more and just consume 100% CPU.


Thanks,
Karel



El 15/07/2005, a las 21:17, Karel Gardas escribió:


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with
the idea
to try to boot aix on qemu.



The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use
Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise
requirement for
it and for image booting in this scenario.



I've thought about it a little bit, but since I'm not system
programmer, I'm a bit lost. RTEMS executables (whole system image)
are ordinary elf files:

silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$ file hello.exe
hello.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), statically linked, stripped
silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$

(i.e. hello.exe is whole RTEMS kernel and user app built together)

for example GRUB is able to boot such file and when booting it
prints something like:
[Multiboot-elf, <0x10; 0x4e538:0xbe28  (and probably something
other
   which I've not caught
since
   RTEMS booted quickly)

So what's IMHO needed is just elf load such file and start it.
Perhaps here is possible to use em86/qemu's elfload functionality
and instead of linux-user more hook this into the system mode.

Any idea how to proceed? (or where exactly to start?)

Thanks!
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Re: system emulation booting elf files [was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question]

2005-07-15 Thread Natalia Portillo

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Use the -kernel command line option to supply the ELF executable to  
boot.


In OHW there is a known problem that surely will prevent doing that  
in QEMU System PPC, but in QEMU System x86 it should work without  
problem.


El 15/07/2005, a las 21:17, Karel Gardas escribió:


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with  
the idea

to try to boot aix on qemu.



The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use
Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise  
requirement for

it and for image booting in this scenario.



I've thought about it a little bit, but since I'm not system  
programmer, I'm a bit lost. RTEMS executables (whole system image)  
are ordinary elf files:


silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$ file hello.exe
hello.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1  
(SYSV), statically linked, stripped

silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$

(i.e. hello.exe is whole RTEMS kernel and user app built together)

for example GRUB is able to boot such file and when booting it  
prints something like:
[Multiboot-elf, <0x10; 0x4e538:0xbe28  (and probably something  
other
which I've not caught  
since

RTEMS booted quickly)

So what's IMHO needed is just elf load such file and start it.  
Perhaps here is possible to use em86/qemu's elfload functionality  
and instead of linux-user more hook this into the system mode.


Any idea how to proceed? (or where exactly to start?)

Thanks!
Karel
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system emulation booting elf files [was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question]

2005-07-15 Thread Karel Gardas

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:


On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:


All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
to try to boot aix on qemu.


The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use
Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise requirement for
it and for image booting in this scenario.


I've thought about it a little bit, but since I'm not system programmer, 
I'm a bit lost. RTEMS executables (whole system image) are ordinary elf 
files:


silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$ file hello.exe
hello.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), statically 
linked, stripped
silence:~/cvs/rtems/examples/hello_world_c/o-optimize$

(i.e. hello.exe is whole RTEMS kernel and user app built together)

for example GRUB is able to boot such file and when booting it prints 
something like:

[Multiboot-elf, <0x10; 0x4e538:0xbe28  (and probably something other
which I've not caught since
RTEMS booted quickly)

So what's IMHO needed is just elf load such file and start it. Perhaps 
here is possible to use em86/qemu's elfload functionality and instead of 
linux-user more hook this into the system mode.


Any idea how to proceed? (or where exactly to start?)

Thanks!
Karel
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-15 Thread Natalia Portillo

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Sure there is no difference.

Well the Mayer's webpage seems broken...
http://perso.magic.fr/l_indien/OpenHackWare/

I can send you an OHW copy to your private mail if you wish.

Regards

El 15/07/2005, a las 14:15, Brian Wheeler escribió:


That's why I was hoping to find the source so I could tinker with it a
bit and see if I could make any progress :)

It looks like the test was against AIX 5.2.  I've got 4.1 -> 5.2 so I
can test a bunch of different versions to see if there's a  
difference in

behavior.

Brian


On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 23:41 +0100, Natalia Portillo wrote:


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AIX won't work, it is tested, check http://www.claunia.com/qemu/, and
if you have a correct CD with the correct PReP partition OHW will
simply try to boot it with -M prep and -boot d options.

Regards,
Natalia Portillo

El 14/07/2005, a las 17:33, Brian Wheeler escribió:



On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:



On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source  
are

missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with
the idea
to try to boot aix on qemu.




The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to  
use

Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise
requirement for
it and for image booting in this scenario.





I think for AIX it is a matter of seeing what the PREP specification
says and seeing what OHW does -- and then trying it on something  
like

AIX 4.3.3 and seeing where it fails.

For your application, I'm not sure what you'd need to do...but the
kernel option does sound like the best bet.

Brian





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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-15 Thread Natalia Portillo

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Sure there is no difference.

Well the Mayer's webpage seems broken...
http://perso.magic.fr/l_indien/OpenHackWare/

I can send you an OHW copy to your private mail if you wish.

Regards

El 15/07/2005, a las 14:15, Brian Wheeler escribió:


That's why I was hoping to find the source so I could tinker with it a
bit and see if I could make any progress :)

It looks like the test was against AIX 5.2.  I've got 4.1 -> 5.2 so I
can test a bunch of different versions to see if there's a  
difference in

behavior.

Brian


On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 23:41 +0100, Natalia Portillo wrote:


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AIX won't work, it is tested, check http://www.claunia.com/qemu/, and
if you have a correct CD with the correct PReP partition OHW will
simply try to boot it with -M prep and -boot d options.

Regards,
Natalia Portillo

El 14/07/2005, a las 17:33, Brian Wheeler escribió:



On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:



On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source  
are

missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with
the idea
to try to boot aix on qemu.




The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to  
use

Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise
requirement for
it and for image booting in this scenario.





I think for AIX it is a matter of seeing what the PREP specification
says and seeing what OHW does -- and then trying it on something  
like

AIX 4.3.3 and seeing where it fails.

For your application, I'm not sure what you'd need to do...but the
kernel option does sound like the best bet.

Brian





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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-15 Thread Brian Wheeler
That's why I was hoping to find the source so I could tinker with it a
bit and see if I could make any progress :)

It looks like the test was against AIX 5.2.  I've got 4.1 -> 5.2 so I
can test a bunch of different versions to see if there's a difference in
behavior.

Brian


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> AIX won't work, it is tested, check http://www.claunia.com/qemu/, and  
> if you have a correct CD with the correct PReP partition OHW will  
> simply try to boot it with -M prep and -boot d options.
> 
> Regards,
> Natalia Portillo
> 
> El 14/07/2005, a las 17:33, Brian Wheeler escribió:
> 
> > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
> >>> missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with  
> >>> the idea
> >>> to try to boot aix on qemu.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.
> >>
> >> Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use
> >> Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise  
> >> requirement for
> >> it and for image booting in this scenario.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I think for AIX it is a matter of seeing what the PREP specification
> > says and seeing what OHW does -- and then trying it on something like
> > AIX 4.3.3 and seeing where it fails.
> >
> > For your application, I'm not sure what you'd need to do...but the
> > kernel option does sound like the best bet.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Karel
> >> --
> >> Karel Gardas  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> ObjectSecurity Ltd.   http://www.objectsecurity.com
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-14 Thread Natalia Portillo

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AIX won't work, it is tested, check http://www.claunia.com/qemu/, and  
if you have a correct CD with the correct PReP partition OHW will  
simply try to boot it with -M prep and -boot d options.


Regards,
Natalia Portillo

El 14/07/2005, a las 17:33, Brian Wheeler escribió:


On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:



All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with  
the idea

to try to boot aix on qemu.



The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use
Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise  
requirement for

it and for image booting in this scenario.




I think for AIX it is a matter of seeing what the PREP specification
says and seeing what OHW does -- and then trying it on something like
AIX 4.3.3 and seeing where it fails.

For your application, I'm not sure what you'd need to do...but the
kernel option does sound like the best bet.

Brian




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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-14 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:52 +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> 
> > All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
> > missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
> > to try to boot aix on qemu.
> 
> The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.
> 
> Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use 
> Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise requirement for 
> it and for image booting in this scenario.
> 

I think for AIX it is a matter of seeing what the PREP specification
says and seeing what OHW does -- and then trying it on something like
AIX 4.3.3 and seeing where it fails.

For your application, I'm not sure what you'd need to do...but the
kernel option does sound like the best bet.

Brian


> Thanks,
> Karel
> --
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware question

2005-07-14 Thread Karel Gardas

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Brian Wheeler wrote:


All of the websites that are referred to in the docs and source are
missing.  Is there another place to get it?  I'm tinkering with the idea
to try to boot aix on qemu.


The same here! But for RTEMS and Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) BSP.

Any idea how to get such code booting? IMHO the best would be to use 
Qemu's -kernel option, but I don't know what are precise requirement for 
it and for image booting in this scenario.


Thanks,
Karel
--
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ObjectSecurity Ltd.   http://www.objectsecurity.com


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