[Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a difference
operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential time.

Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging tons of
empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear time.

Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would let
the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
happening.
Is it already there and I missed it?

giovanni
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
I meant QgsMessageLog, not QgsLogger...


2014-07-05 10:27 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:

 As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a difference
 operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential time.

 Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging tons
 of empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
 After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear time.

 Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would let
 the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
 happening.
 Is it already there and I missed it?

 giovanni




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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
I've added a pull request about this https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/1499

giovanni


2014-07-05 11:15 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:

 I meant QgsMessageLog, not QgsLogger...


 2014-07-05 10:27 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:

 As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a difference
 operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential time.

 Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging tons
 of empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
 After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear
 time.

 Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would let
 the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
 happening.
 Is it already there and I missed it?

 giovanni




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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Giovanni,

On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
 As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a difference
 operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential time.
 
 Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging tons of
 empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
 After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear time.
 
 Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would let
 the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
 happening.
 Is it already there and I missed it?

What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill them where it
origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead of logging
individual errors. 

Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in message log
to make it behave better - although that only works the error message are
identical.


Jürgen 

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
Hi Jurgen,
I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of empty
geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
Consequently it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].

Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case. Anyway, I
think the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...

giovanni

[1]
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718


2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:

 Hi Giovanni,

 On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
  As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a difference
  operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential time.

  Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging tons
 of
  empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
  After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear
 time.

  Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would let
  the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
  happening.
  Is it already there and I missed it?

 What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill them
 where it
 origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead of
 logging
 individual errors.

 Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in message
 log
 to make it behave better - although that only works the error message are
 identical.


 Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Working with the new Legend

2014-07-05 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 28-06-14 08:11, Martin Dobias wrote:
 Let me paste some example code. Let's prepare few things to begin with:
 
 # add few layers at the beginning so the legend is not completely empty
 v1 = iface.addVectorLayer(Point, Layer 1, memory)
 v2 = iface.addVectorLayer(Point, Layer 2, memory)
 v3 = iface.addVectorLayer(Point, Layer 3, memory)
 
 # create a layer and add it to registry, saying it should not be
 immediately added to legend
 v4 = QgsVectorLayer(Point, Layer X, memory)
 QgsMapLayerRegistry.instance().addMapLayer(v4, False)
 
 # get reference to the layer tree
 root=QgsProject.instance().layerTreeRoot()
 
 
 * insert a layer at a give location
 
 # add layer to the node at index 0
 v4n = QgsLayerTreeLayer(v4)
 root.insertChildNode(0, v4n)
 
 
 * move a layer to a new position
 
 v4n2 = v4n.clone()
 root.insertChildNode(-1, v4n2) # insert at last position
 root.removeChildNode(v4n)
 
 
 * remove a layer
 
 root.removeChildNode(v4n2)
 
 (we could use root.findLayer(v4.id()) to get the node if we didn't
 have it before)

Hi Martin,

if I want to insert a new layer below some other one, I need to know the
position of that one. I'm trying to find an index or so in Python, but
cannot find it?

Is there already a way to do this? (I want to put a buffer below the
layer it has buffered)

Regards,

Richard

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Peri
Hi GioHappy,

the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.

Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
finite binary arithmetic.

If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not mean
only to be snapped).
 the collection results never happened.
Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
probability to have some collection result grow.
We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.

I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this kind of
operations.

In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the collections
correctly.

Regard,

Andrea.


2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 Hi Jurgen,
 I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of empty
 geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage. Consequently
 it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].

 Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case. Anyway, I think
 the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...

 giovanni

 [1]
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718


 2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:

 Hi Giovanni,

 On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
  As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a difference
  operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential time.

  Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging tons
  of
  empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
  After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear
  time.

  Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would let
  the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
  happening.
  Is it already there and I missed it?

 What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill them
 where it
 origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead of
 logging
 individual errors.

 Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in message
 log
 to make it behave better - although that only works the error message are
 identical.


 Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
The processing completes as expected, with the same results as Spatialite
and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)

giovanni



2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Hi GioHappy,

 the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
 It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
 computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.

 Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
 finite binary arithmetic.

 If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not mean
 only to be snapped).
  the collection results never happened.
 Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
 probability to have some collection result grow.
 We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.

 I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this kind of
 operations.

 In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the collections
 correctly.

 Regard,

 Andrea.


 2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  Hi Jurgen,
  I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of empty
  geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
 Consequently
  it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].
 
  Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case. Anyway, I
 think
  the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...
 
  giovanni
 
  [1]
 
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718
 
 
  2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:
 
  Hi Giovanni,
 
  On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
   As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a
 difference
   operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential
 time.
 
   Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging
 tons
   of
   empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
   After commenting the line of logging the process completed in linear
   time.
 
   Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This would
 let
   the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows what's
   happening.
   Is it already there and I missed it?
 
  What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill them
  where it
  origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead of
  logging
  individual errors.
 
  Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in
 message
  log
  to make it behave better - although that only works the error message
 are
  identical.
 
 
  Jürgen
 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections are
discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.

giovanni


2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Ok, sorry.

 Just a my personal curiosity:
 The difference could give also a collection not empty.
 If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some polygons,
 some lines and some points.
 What happened to this collection in QGIS ?

 Thx,
 A.


 2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
  The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
  The processing completes as expected, with the same results as Spatialite
  and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
 
  giovanni
 
 
 
  2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Hi GioHappy,
 
  the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
  It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
  computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
 
  Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
  finite binary arithmetic.
 
  If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not mean
  only to be snapped).
   the collection results never happened.
  Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
  probability to have some collection result grow.
  We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
 
  I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this kind of
  operations.
 
  In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the collections
  correctly.
 
  Regard,
 
  Andrea.
 
 
  2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   Hi Jurgen,
   I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of empty
   geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
   Consequently
   it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].
  
   Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case. Anyway, I
   think
   the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...
  
   giovanni
  
   [1]
  
  
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718
  
  
   2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:
  
   Hi Giovanni,
  
   On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a
difference
operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential
time.
  
Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was logging
tons
of
empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
After commenting the line of logging the process completed in
 linear
time.
  
Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This
 would
let
the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows
 what's
happening.
Is it already there and I missed it?
  
   What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill them
   where it
   origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead of
   logging
   individual errors.
  
   Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in
   message
   log
   to make it behave better - although that only works the error message
   are
   identical.
  
  
   Jürgen
  
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[Qgis-developer] RasterFileWriter creates 5 times bigger geotiff then gdal_translate

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
Causally I hit the save as raster dialog, and I tried to export a raster to
layer (coming from an ASCII Grid source) to Geotiff, with no creation
options set.
The result was a file 3 times bigger then the original ASCII, and 5 times
bigger then the Geotiff created by gdal_translate.

gdalinfo on the files give same results (except statistics missing from the
one created by RasterFileWriter).
Does gdal_translate do some optimizations that RFW doesn't?
I wasn't aware that two Geotiffs, apparently with the same properties,
could be so different in size...

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Peri
Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.

So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
the right type.

If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
collection with a polygon section and a point section.
You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
the difference do a wrong result.

Regards,
Andrea.


2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections are
 discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.

 giovanni


 2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Ok, sorry.

 Just a my personal curiosity:
 The difference could give also a collection not empty.
 If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some polygons,
 some lines and some points.
 What happened to this collection in QGIS ?

 Thx,
 A.


 2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
  The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
  The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
  Spatialite
  and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
 
  giovanni
 
 
 
  2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Hi GioHappy,
 
  the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
  It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
  computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
 
  Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
  finite binary arithmetic.
 
  If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not mean
  only to be snapped).
   the collection results never happened.
  Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
  probability to have some collection result grow.
  We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
 
  I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this kind of
  operations.
 
  In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the collections
  correctly.
 
  Regard,
 
  Andrea.
 
 
  2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   Hi Jurgen,
   I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of empty
   geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
   Consequently
   it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].
  
   Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case. Anyway,
   I
   think
   the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...
  
   giovanni
  
   [1]
  
  
   https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718
  
  
   2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:
  
   Hi Giovanni,
  
   On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a
difference
operation on a vector because the tool was running in exponential
time.
  
Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was
logging
tons
of
empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be discarded.
After commenting the line of logging the process completed in
linear
time.
  
Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This
would
let
the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows
what's
happening.
Is it already there and I missed it?
  
   What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill
   them
   where it
   origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead of
   logging
   individual errors.
  
   Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in
   message
   log
   to make it behave better - although that only works the error
   message
   are
   identical.
  
  
   Jürgen
  
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Geom collection and QGIS (was QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck)

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
(I changed the topic)

Geometry collections in QGIS must be treated at the GEOS level.
There isnt a QGIS::wkbType for geometry collections, so if GEOS return a
collection they must be managed as GEOS geometries, before moving them up
to QgsGeometry.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

giovanni


2014-07-05 17:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.

 So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
 because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
 the right type.

 If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
 collection with a polygon section and a point section.
 You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
 If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
 the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
 the difference do a wrong result.

 Regards,
 Andrea.


 2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections are
  discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.
 
  giovanni
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Ok, sorry.
 
  Just a my personal curiosity:
  The difference could give also a collection not empty.
  If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some polygons,
  some lines and some points.
  What happened to this collection in QGIS ?
 
  Thx,
  A.
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
   The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
   The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
   Spatialite
   and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
  
   giovanni
  
  
  
   2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
  
   Hi GioHappy,
  
   the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
   It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
   computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
  
   Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
   finite binary arithmetic.
  
   If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not mean
   only to be snapped).
the collection results never happened.
   Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
   probability to have some collection result grow.
   We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
  
   I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this kind
 of
   operations.
  
   In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the
 collections
   correctly.
  
   Regard,
  
   Andrea.
  
  
   2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
Hi Jurgen,
I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of empty
geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
Consequently
it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].
   
Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case.
 Anyway,
I
think
the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...
   
giovanni
   
[1]
   
   
   
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718
   
   
2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:
   
Hi Giovanni,
   
On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
 As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a
 difference
 operation on a vector because the tool was running in
 exponential
 time.
   
 Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was
 logging
 tons
 of
 empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be
 discarded.
 After commenting the line of logging the process completed in
 linear
 time.
   
 Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This
 would
 let
 the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already knows
 what's
 happening.
 Is it already there and I missed it?
   
What error message did you get and wouldn't it be better to kill
them
where it
origins or to issue a final %n empty geometries skipped instead
 of
logging
individual errors.
   
Alternatively we could issue a last message repeated %n times in
message
log
to make it behave better - although that only works the error
message
are
identical.
   
   
Jürgen
   
--
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+49-4931-918175-31
Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13  Fax.
+49-4931-918175-50
Software Engineer   D-26506 Norden
http://www.norbit.de
QGIS release manager (PSC)  GermanyIRC: jef on
FreeNode
   
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Informationssysteme
mbH
Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden
GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, 

[Qgis-developer] Selection Within Stacked Geometry

2014-07-05 Thread James Wood
I'm working with conflict data, and because of escalation (e.g., kidnappings, 
bombings and insurgent attacks can lead to full-scale territorial disputes), 
temporal point features can become stacked. I was initially trying to figure 
out a way to highlight a record within a selected set in the attribute table 
and zoom to that point without loosing the original selection, but the Advanced 
Filter may be the best way to handle that. As I was panning the map, though, I 
noticed some locations that should have been selected from my query, and upon 
inspection, realized they were stacked points. Evidently the points on top 
prevented me from seeing the selected ones underneath. Even using the point 
displacement renderer (which is a pretty slick tool, btw) the selection was 
still hidden in the original point stack. Should I not be able to see my 
selections on the map canvas in relation to my other point data or is there a 
setting or trick here that I'm missing?
 
I'm a relatively new QGIS user, so please take that into consideration. I'm 
sure this has been discussed before, and I did some online searches but came up 
with very little. I did find this, but nothing related to point selections or 
how those would be affected by feature request changes. If I missed a solution, 
I would greatly appreciate a nudge in the right direction, but perhaps the 
development community is still reviewing how best to handle this...
 
Win 7 x64 SP1
QGIS 2.4.0 (x64 standalone installer)
 
Thanks in advance for any feedback,
James
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Re: [Qgis-developer] RasterFileWriter creates 5 times bigger geotiff then gdal_translate

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
I haven't spot tha exact point where this happens but QGIS exports Float64,
even if the origin was Float32.

giovanni


2014-07-05 16:54 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:

 Causally I hit the save as raster dialog, and I tried to export a raster
 to layer (coming from an ASCII Grid source) to Geotiff, with no creation
 options set.
 The result was a file 3 times bigger then the original ASCII, and 5 times
 bigger then the Geotiff created by gdal_translate.

 gdalinfo on the files give same results (except statistics missing from
 the one created by RasterFileWriter).
 Does gdal_translate do some optimizations that RFW doesn't?
 I wasn't aware that two Geotiffs, apparently with the same properties,
 could be so different in size...

 giovanni

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Geom collection and QGIS (was QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck)

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Peri
Is wrong.
The geos return a collection when the collectionis the right result.

if the result is a collection like:
collection (multipolygons, multilinestrings, multipoint)

why it should remove the lines and points.

It could be useful to the client.
The fact that the client is capable to understand only point/line and
polgons is a problem of the client , not of the geos.

If the invoker is not capable to understand collection, but it want do
operation that could return collection.
The invoker (the client) should increase him matematics capability ,
not decrease the capability of geos.
:)

In postgis and spalite is easy manage this kind of situation even if
the table is not a collection.

With a  ExtractFromCollection(ForceToCollection(geometry)..)
you can easily to resolve the problem on postgis/spatialite.

If this capability is not available in qgis is a problem of qgis not of geos.

:)

A.


2014-07-05 17:23 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 (I changed the topic)

 Geometry collections in QGIS must be treated at the GEOS level.
 There isnt a QGIS::wkbType for geometry collections, so if GEOS return a
 collection they must be managed as GEOS geometries, before moving them up
 to QgsGeometry.

 Correct me if I'm wrong.

 giovanni


 2014-07-05 17:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.

 So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
 because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
 the right type.

 If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
 collection with a polygon section and a point section.
 You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
 If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
 the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
 the difference do a wrong result.

 Regards,
 Andrea.


 2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections are
  discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.
 
  giovanni
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Ok, sorry.
 
  Just a my personal curiosity:
  The difference could give also a collection not empty.
  If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some polygons,
  some lines and some points.
  What happened to this collection in QGIS ?
 
  Thx,
  A.
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
   The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
   The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
   Spatialite
   and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
  
   giovanni
  
  
  
   2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
  
   Hi GioHappy,
  
   the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
   It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
   computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
  
   Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
   finite binary arithmetic.
  
   If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not
   mean
   only to be snapped).
the collection results never happened.
   Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
   probability to have some collection result grow.
   We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
  
   I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this kind
   of
   operations.
  
   In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the
   collections
   correctly.
  
   Regard,
  
   Andrea.
  
  
   2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
Hi Jurgen,
I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of
empty
geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
Consequently
it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].
   
Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case.
Anyway,
I
think
the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...
   
giovanni
   
[1]
   
   
   
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718
   
   
2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:
   
Hi Giovanni,
   
On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
 As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a
 difference
 operation on a vector because the tool was running in
 exponential
 time.
   
 Debugging pointed me to the problem: QgsVectoFileWriter was
 logging
 tons
 of
 empty geometres with an incompatible type which will be
 discarded.
 After commenting the line of logging the process completed in
 linear
 time.
   
 Shouldn't we offer the opportunity to turn QgsLogger off? This
 would
 let
 the user/developer to switch it off whenever he already 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Geom collection and QGIS (was QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck)

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
Well, Andrea, QGIS adopts GEOS capabilities as far as it can.
As you will know it doesn't support Z and M geoms as well.
I hope future founders will help extending its capabilities...

giovanni


2014-07-05 20:10 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Is wrong.
 The geos return a collection when the collectionis the right result.

 if the result is a collection like:
 collection (multipolygons, multilinestrings, multipoint)

 why it should remove the lines and points.

 It could be useful to the client.
 The fact that the client is capable to understand only point/line and
 polgons is a problem of the client , not of the geos.

 If the invoker is not capable to understand collection, but it want do
 operation that could return collection.
 The invoker (the client) should increase him matematics capability ,
 not decrease the capability of geos.
 :)

 In postgis and spalite is easy manage this kind of situation even if
 the table is not a collection.

 With a  ExtractFromCollection(ForceToCollection(geometry)..)
 you can easily to resolve the problem on postgis/spatialite.

 If this capability is not available in qgis is a problem of qgis not of
 geos.

 :)

 A.


 2014-07-05 17:23 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  (I changed the topic)
 
  Geometry collections in QGIS must be treated at the GEOS level.
  There isnt a QGIS::wkbType for geometry collections, so if GEOS return a
  collection they must be managed as GEOS geometries, before moving them
 up
  to QgsGeometry.
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  giovanni
 
 
  2014-07-05 17:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.
 
  So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
  because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
  the right type.
 
  If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
  collection with a polygon section and a point section.
  You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
  If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
  the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
  the difference do a wrong result.
 
  Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections
 are
   discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.
  
   giovanni
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
  
   Ok, sorry.
  
   Just a my personal curiosity:
   The difference could give also a collection not empty.
   If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some polygons,
   some lines and some points.
   What happened to this collection in QGIS ?
  
   Thx,
   A.
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
Spatialite
and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
   
giovanni
   
   
   
2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
   
Hi GioHappy,
   
the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
   
Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
finite binary arithmetic.
   
If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not
mean
only to be snapped).
 the collection results never happened.
Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
probability to have some collection result grow.
We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
   
I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this
 kind
of
operations.
   
In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the
collections
correctly.
   
Regard,
   
Andrea.
   
   
2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 Hi Jurgen,
 I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of
 empty
 geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
 Consequently
 it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].

 Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case.
 Anyway,
 I
 think
 the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...

 giovanni

 [1]




 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718


 2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:

 Hi Giovanni,

 On Sat, 05. Jul 2014 at 10:27:24 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
  As I reported in a previous post, I was unable to conclude a
  difference
  operation on a vector because the tool was running in
  exponential
  time.

  

Re: [Qgis-developer] RasterFileWriter creates 5 times bigger geotiff then gdal_translate

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
Sorry for the buzz. It's not QGIS fault, it's GDAL itself which reads the
ASCII Grid as Float64, but I wonder why contrarily gdalinfo and
gdal_translate treats it as Float32...


2014-07-05 18:56 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:

 I haven't spot tha exact point where this happens but QGIS exports
 Float64, even if the origin was Float32.

 giovanni


 2014-07-05 16:54 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:

 Causally I hit the save as raster dialog, and I tried to export a raster
 to layer (coming from an ASCII Grid source) to Geotiff, with no creation
 options set.
 The result was a file 3 times bigger then the original ASCII, and 5 times
 bigger then the Geotiff created by gdal_translate.

 gdalinfo on the files give same results (except statistics missing from
 the one created by RasterFileWriter).
 Does gdal_translate do some optimizations that RFW doesn't?
 I wasn't aware that two Geotiffs, apparently with the same properties,
 could be so different in size...

 giovanni

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Geom collection and QGIS (was QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck)

2014-07-05 Thread Larry Shaffer
HI,


On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is wrong.
 The geos return a collection when the collectionis the right result.

 if the result is a collection like:
 collection (multipolygons, multilinestrings, multipoint)

 why it should remove the lines and points.

 It could be useful to the client.
 The fact that the client is capable to understand only point/line and
 polgons is a problem of the client , not of the geos.

 If the invoker is not capable to understand collection, but it want do
 operation that could return collection.
 The invoker (the client) should increase him matematics capability ,
 not decrease the capability of geos.
 :)

 In postgis and spalite is easy manage this kind of situation even if
 the table is not a collection.

 With a  ExtractFromCollection(ForceToCollection(geometry)..)
 you can easily to resolve the problem on postgis/spatialite.



I fail to see how Giovanni is 'wrong' here. Unless I am incorrect, he is
suggesting that QGIS do exactly the same thing, i.e. implement something
like ExtractFromCollection() where needed, when the geometry is converted
from GEOS to QgsGeometry.

This seems like a very reasonable interim solution until such time that a
type of 'collection' can be supported (no small feat, I am guessing).


Regards,

Larry




 If this capability is not available in qgis is a problem of qgis not of
 geos.

 :)

 A.


 2014-07-05 17:23 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  (I changed the topic)
 
  Geometry collections in QGIS must be treated at the GEOS level.
  There isnt a QGIS::wkbType for geometry collections, so if GEOS return a
  collection they must be managed as GEOS geometries, before moving them
 up
  to QgsGeometry.
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  giovanni
 
 
  2014-07-05 17:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.
 
  So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
  because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
  the right type.
 
  If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
  collection with a polygon section and a point section.
  You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
  If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
  the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
  the difference do a wrong result.
 
  Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections
 are
   discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.
  
   giovanni
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
  
   Ok, sorry.
  
   Just a my personal curiosity:
   The difference could give also a collection not empty.
   If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some polygons,
   some lines and some points.
   What happened to this collection in QGIS ?
  
   Thx,
   A.
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
Spatialite
and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
   
giovanni
   
   
   
2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
   
Hi GioHappy,
   
the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
   
Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
finite binary arithmetic.
   
If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not
mean
only to be snapped).
 the collection results never happened.
Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big the
probability to have some collection result grow.
We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
   
I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this
 kind
of
operations.
   
In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the
collections
correctly.
   
Regard,
   
Andrea.
   
   
2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 Hi Jurgen,
 I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of
 empty
 geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't manage.
 Consequently
 it wrote a log message for each geometry it couldn't write [1].

 Surely the logging should be improved in this specific case.
 Anyway,
 I
 think
 the option to turn QgsMessageLog off could be useful anyway...

 giovanni

 [1]




 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/core/qgsvectorfilewriter.cpp#L1718


 2014-07-05 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de:

 Hi Giovanni,

 On 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Geom collection and QGIS (was QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck)

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Peri
Hi Larry,

probably I don't understand well the concept of at geos level.

My english is worsened ultimately.
:(


I understand that Giovanni say to add some change to geos library , to
change the methods or adding some new method in the geos.
:)

I agree that the solution is to add to qgis the capability to receive
a collection and extract a basic type (simple o multi
point,line,poly) from it.

Regards,

A.



2014-07-05 20:52 GMT+02:00 Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com:
 HI,


 On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is wrong.
 The geos return a collection when the collectionis the right result.

 if the result is a collection like:
 collection (multipolygons, multilinestrings, multipoint)

 why it should remove the lines and points.

 It could be useful to the client.
 The fact that the client is capable to understand only point/line and
 polgons is a problem of the client , not of the geos.

 If the invoker is not capable to understand collection, but it want do
 operation that could return collection.
 The invoker (the client) should increase him matematics capability ,
 not decrease the capability of geos.
 :)

 In postgis and spalite is easy manage this kind of situation even if
 the table is not a collection.

 With a  ExtractFromCollection(ForceToCollection(geometry)..)
 you can easily to resolve the problem on postgis/spatialite.



 I fail to see how Giovanni is 'wrong' here. Unless I am incorrect, he is
 suggesting that QGIS do exactly the same thing, i.e. implement something
 like ExtractFromCollection() where needed, when the geometry is converted
 from GEOS to QgsGeometry.

 This seems like a very reasonable interim solution until such time that a
 type of 'collection' can be supported (no small feat, I am guessing).


 Regards,

 Larry




 If this capability is not available in qgis is a problem of qgis not of
 geos.

 :)

 A.


 2014-07-05 17:23 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
  (I changed the topic)
 
  Geometry collections in QGIS must be treated at the GEOS level.
  There isnt a QGIS::wkbType for geometry collections, so if GEOS return a
  collection they must be managed as GEOS geometries, before moving them
  up
  to QgsGeometry.
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  giovanni
 
 
  2014-07-05 17:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
 
  Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.
 
  So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
  because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
  the right type.
 
  If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
  collection with a polygon section and a point section.
  You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
  If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
  the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
  the difference do a wrong result.
 
  Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
  2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections
   are
   discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.
  
   giovanni
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
  
   Ok, sorry.
  
   Just a my personal curiosity:
   The difference could give also a collection not empty.
   If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some
   polygons,
   some lines and some points.
   What happened to this collection in QGIS ?
  
   Thx,
   A.
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
Spatialite
and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)
   
giovanni
   
   
   
2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
   
Hi GioHappy,
   
the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like the
computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.
   
Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe with a
finite binary arithmetic.
   
If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this not
mean
only to be snapped).
 the collection results never happened.
Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big
the
probability to have some collection result grow.
We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.
   
I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to do this
kind
of
operations.
   
In these products you have the useful tools to resolve the
collections
correctly.
   
Regard,
   
Andrea.
   
   
2014-07-05 12:40 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 Hi Jurgen,
 I wouldn't call them errors. GEOSDIfference returned a lot of
 empty
 geomcollections, which the QgsVectorFileWriter couldn't 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Geom collection and QGIS (was QgisLogger can be a serious bottleneck)

2014-07-05 Thread G. Allegri
You misunderstood me Andrea. I've never said that :)
I said that when geometry collections need to be treated within QGIS, you
have to work at the GEOS level.

giovanni
Il 05/lug/2014 21:40 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 Hi Larry,

 probably I don't understand well the concept of at geos level.

 My english is worsened ultimately.
 :(


 I understand that Giovanni say to add some change to geos library , to
 change the methods or adding some new method in the geos.
 :)

 I agree that the solution is to add to qgis the capability to receive
 a collection and extract a basic type (simple o multi
 point,line,poly) from it.

 Regards,

 A.



 2014-07-05 20:52 GMT+02:00 Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com:
  HI,
 
 
  On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Is wrong.
  The geos return a collection when the collectionis the right result.
 
  if the result is a collection like:
  collection (multipolygons, multilinestrings, multipoint)
 
  why it should remove the lines and points.
 
  It could be useful to the client.
  The fact that the client is capable to understand only point/line and
  polgons is a problem of the client , not of the geos.
 
  If the invoker is not capable to understand collection, but it want do
  operation that could return collection.
  The invoker (the client) should increase him matematics capability ,
  not decrease the capability of geos.
  :)
 
  In postgis and spalite is easy manage this kind of situation even if
  the table is not a collection.
 
  With a  ExtractFromCollection(ForceToCollection(geometry)..)
  you can easily to resolve the problem on postgis/spatialite.
 
 
 
  I fail to see how Giovanni is 'wrong' here. Unless I am incorrect, he is
  suggesting that QGIS do exactly the same thing, i.e. implement something
  like ExtractFromCollection() where needed, when the geometry is converted
  from GEOS to QgsGeometry.
 
  This seems like a very reasonable interim solution until such time that a
  type of 'collection' can be supported (no small feat, I am guessing).
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Larry
 
 
 
 
  If this capability is not available in qgis is a problem of qgis not of
  geos.
 
  :)
 
  A.
 
 
  2014-07-05 17:23 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
   (I changed the topic)
  
   Geometry collections in QGIS must be treated at the GEOS level.
   There isnt a QGIS::wkbType for geometry collections, so if GEOS
 return a
   collection they must be managed as GEOS geometries, before moving
 them
   up
   to QgsGeometry.
  
   Correct me if I'm wrong.
  
   giovanni
  
  
   2014-07-05 17:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
  
   Thx GioHappy, this is imprtant for me to know.
  
   So is surely better to use the postgis or spatialite
   because it allow you to extract from the collection the section with
   the right type.
  
   If you do a difference beetwen two polygons is the result is a
   collection with a polygon section and a point section.
   You should extract the polygon and discard the point.
   If the strategu is discard all the collection this mean that on qgis
   the difference could lost domething of important and so potentially
   the difference do a wrong result.
  
   Regards,
   Andrea.
  
  
   2014-07-05 16:47 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
AFAICS whenever a new feature needs to be created, geom collections
are
discarded, because QGIS cannot manage them.
   
giovanni
   
   
2014-07-05 16:40 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:
   
Ok, sorry.
   
Just a my personal curiosity:
The difference could give also a collection not empty.
If the difference of two polygons is a collection with some
polygons,
some lines and some points.
What happened to this collection in QGIS ?
   
Thx,
A.
   
   
2014-07-05 16:03 GMT+02:00 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com:
 Hi Andrea, as I said above I'm not considering it an error.
 The topic of this post is QGIS message logging.
 The processing completes as expected, with the same results as
 Spatialite
 and PostGIS. These simply do it silently :)

 giovanni



 2014-07-05 15:59 GMT+02:00 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com:

 Hi GioHappy,

 the empty-collection is absolutelly not necessarylly a bug.
 It is the obviously result of an operation on a machine (like
 the
 computer) with a binary finite arithmetic.

 Usually the empty is due to a too low value to be describe
 with a
 finite binary arithmetic.

 If the dataset is small or it is topologically correct (this
 not
 mean
 only to be snapped).
  the collection results never happened.
 Instead if the dataset is not topologically correct and is big
 the
 probability to have some collection result grow.
 We tipically have alway an 0.01% of collection on our results.

 I suggest you to use directly postgis or spatialite to 

Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS

2014-07-05 Thread klausenlie
Hi again.
Some of you have said something about opening sosi-files
in QGIS. I myselft haven't found any other place than in the
file explorer, but opening from there i get the error message.
I have tried to look in the toolbox for gdal but havnet found anything there
for sosi.

 



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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS standalone app - layer tree, legend and co.

2014-07-05 Thread Germán Carrillo
Matthias,

have a look at the Layer list widget for PyQGIS applications [1], perhaps
it could fit your needs.

Not sure if it works on recent QGIS versions, though.

Regards,

Germán
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http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php/en/component/k2/item/270-tabla-de-contenido-leyenda-para-aplicaciones-basadas-en-pyqgis/



2014-07-04 10:07 GMT-05:00 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com:

 Hi Matthias

 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Matthias Ludwig kaot...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I'am writing a data viewer as python qgis standalone application. Is it
 possible to use the QgisInterface and other classes (like
 QgsLegendInterface) for layer handling (adding, removing, activation, etc.)?
  Cause I didn't found a way I have written my own layer model based on
 qts QAbstractListModel. It's working more or less, but I would prever a
 nativ solution if available.

 QgisInterface and QgsLegendInterface will not work if you are
 developing a standalone application. As Andreas suggested, if you base
 your application on QGIS 2.4, you can use new layer tree classes:
 QgsLayerTreeView + QgsLayerTreeModel for Qt model/view and
 QgsLayerTreeGroup + QgsLayerTreeLayer classes for the actual hierarchy
 that will be used by the model and view classes. There is some doxygen
 documentation in the header files, but I am in the process of
 preparing some blog posts about the new classes... stay tuned!

 Regards
 Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS

2014-07-05 Thread Andre Joost

Am 05.07.2014 23:40, schrieb klausenlie:

Hi again.
Some of you have said something about opening sosi-files
in QGIS. I myselft haven't found any other place than in the
file explorer, but opening from there i get the error message.
I have tried to look in the toolbox for gdal but havnet found anything there
for sosi.



The GDAL mentioned is only available if you use the OSGEO4W Shell icon. 
It is a command line application. Typing ogrinfo --formats lists all 
available vector data formats. You will find SOSI there if it is 
correctly installed. The list is not sorted alphabetically.


If SOSI is listed, you can transform the file into other formats using 
ogr2ogr.


HTH,
André Jooost
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