Re: [Qgis-developer] Openlayers plugin support in QGIS 2.4
Hi Ali, You can use this method instead of OpenLayers Plugin : Using Map Tile Servers in QGIS 2.4 http://www.konstantingreger.net/using-map-tile-servers-in-qgis-2-4/ Based on : How to display OpenStreetMap data tiles with no plugin inside Qgis http://www.3liz.com/blog/rldhont/index.php?post/2012/07/17/OpenStreetMap-Tiles-in-QGIS Regards, René-Luc D'Hont Le 07/07/2014 07:38, Aamir Ali a écrit : Dear All I am using QGIS 2.4 built using qgis source code and qt creator in ubuntu. I am unable to find openlayers plugin in the list of plugin repository. I have a two questions 1. Whether it is not compatible with this version or my build has some problems? 2. If its not compatible then how long it will take the community to release the compatible version? Aamir Ali ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] Openlayers plugin support in QGIS 2.4
Dear All I am using QGIS 2.4 built using qgis source code and qt creator in ubuntu. I am unable to find openlayers plugin in the list of plugin repository. I have a two questions 1. Whether it is not compatible with this version or my build has some problems? 2. If its not compatible then how long it will take the community to release the compatible version? Aamir Ali ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi James and Fischer! How should I go about to export a sosi -file (which I have edited with my own symbology) to shapefile? It seems that I loose the information tied to the different object types, when I do it via Layer -> save as... Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149867.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi Jürgen, 1.11.0-4 fixes this problem. Thanks for the help. James From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Jürgen E. Fischer [j...@norbit.de] Sent: 06 July 2014 16:17 To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS Hi James, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 13:53:57 +, Stott, James wrote: > One other thing I have noticed on 64 bit is that gdal-python package has a > different version number (1.11.0-3) than in 32 bit (1.11.0-2). This version > number is different to all the other packages which are 1.11.0-2. Try 1.11.0-4 please Jürgen: -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Am 06.07.2014 14:37, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer: Hi James, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 11:31:56 +, Stott, James wrote: And that fixes everything :) Not quite. Apparently the sosi plugin also somehow produces a noise[1] and that's still there. I have this strange noise too, using QGIS 2.2 standalone, and the old SOSI driver for GDAL 1.10 from OSGEO4W manually moved to Valmieras gdal-plugin folder. The buzz comes just before the error message. I never heard that on any other data source. HTH, André Joost ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi James, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 13:53:57 +, Stott, James wrote: > One other thing I have noticed on 64 bit is that gdal-python package has a > different version number (1.11.0-3) than in 32 bit (1.11.0-2). This version > number is different to all the other packages which are 1.11.0-2. Try 1.11.0-4 please Jürgen: -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi again Jürgen One other thing I have noticed on 64 bit is that gdal-python package has a different version number (1.11.0-3) than in 32 bit (1.11.0-2). This version number is different to all the other packages which are 1.11.0-2. When opening QGIS 64 bit, I get an error message as follows (works fine in 32 bit for me): Unable to load GdalTools plugin. The required "osgeo [python-gdal]" module is missing. Install it and try again The i get the python error as follows: Couldn't load plugin 'processing' from ['C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python', 'C:/Users/James/.qgis2/python', 'C:/Users/James/.qgis2/python/plugins', 'C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\bin\python27.zip', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\DLLs', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\plat-win', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\lib-tk', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\bin', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\PIL', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\jinja2-2.7.2-py2.7.egg', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\markupsafe-0.23-py2.7-win-amd64.egg', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\pytz-2012j-py2.7.egg', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\win32', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\win32\lib', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\Pythonwin', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\six-1.3.0-py2.7.egg', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python27\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-unicode', 'C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\qgis\python\plugins\fTools\tools'] Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 182, in loadPlugin __import__(packageName) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins\processing\__init__.py", line 29, in from processing.tools.general import * File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins\processing\tools\general.py", line 29, in from processing.core.Processing import Processing File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins\processing\core\Processing.py", line 49, in from processing.algs.qgis.QGISAlgorithmProvider import QGISAlgorithmProvider File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins\processing\algs\qgis\QGISAlgorithmProvider.py", line 78, in from RasterLayerStatistics import RasterLayerStatistics File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins\processing\algs\qgis\RasterLayerStatistics.py", line 36, in from processing.tools import raster File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins\processing\tools\raster.py", line 29, in from osgeo import gdal File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 454, in _import mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) ImportError: No module named osgeo Python version: 2.7.5 (default, May 15 2013, 22:44:16) [MSC v.1500 64 bit (AMD64)] QGIS version: 2.4.0-Chugiak Chugiak, 8fdd08a Python path: ['C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python', u'C:/Users/James/.qgis2/python', u'C:/Users/James/.qgis2/python/plugins', 'C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python/plugins', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\bin\\python27.zip', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\DLLs', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\plat-win', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\lib-tk', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\bin', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\PIL', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\jinja2-2.7.2-py2.7.egg', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\markupsafe-0.23-py2.7-win-amd64.egg', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\pytz-2012j-py2.7.egg', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\win32', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\win32\\lib', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\Pythonwin', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\six-1.3.0-py2.7.egg', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\wx-2.8-msw-unicode', 'C:\\OSGEO4~1\\apps\\qgis\\python\\plugins\\fTools\\tools'] Fr
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
@Tommy: I have created a short blog post on how to enable SOSI support when installing QGIS using OSGeo4W. http://jamesinnorway.net/2014/07/06/qgis-2-4-and-sosi/ I havent compiled anything from source for this. Let me know if it helps. @Jürgen: I have had the sound issue before on my work machine (Windows 7), but it was only when the SOSI file wouldnt open. Now that the files open I do not get the problem on my home machine (Windows 8 - but never noticed if it was there before so cant comment on that). James From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of klausenlie [klausen...@online.no] Sent: 06 July 2014 14:42 To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS Hi Fischer and James! What do I do now? I don`t know how to use the patch link. Sorry for this. Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149834.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi Fischer and James! What do I do now? I don`t know how to use the patch link. Sorry for this. Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149834.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi James, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 11:31:56 +, Stott, James wrote: > And that fixes everything :) Not quite. Apparently the sosi plugin also somehow produces a noise[1] and that's still there. Jürgen [1] http://hub.qgis.org/issues/10746 -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi Tommy, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 05:12:03 -0700, klausenlie wrote: > I tried to build the package myself yesterdal, with the UT.lib, GM.lib and > FYBA lib but when it came to the nmake process and further on (in Visual > studio) I met a wall. :-) BTW I also added CMake files. If already sent it to Stefan - as I saw commits from him in the fyba rep - but it's already here[1] now. Jürgen [1] http://buten.norbit.de/~jef/0001-don-t-use-file-locking-on-windows-locks-index-even-i.patch -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi James! Ok, now we`re getting somewhere. With regards to both 1 and 2. How do I do that? I tried to build the package myself yesterdal, with the UT.lib, GM.lib and FYBA lib but when it came to the nmake process and further on (in Visual studio) I met a wall. :-) Right now I get an error trying to do as you described. Guess that`s because 1 and 2 isn`t met. Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149830.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi, Just to double check a couple of things, 1) you need to install the gdal-sosi package using the OSGeo4W installer. 2) You will need to update all packages using the OSGeo4W installer as the changes Jürgen has made seem to have been made today. If you go into QGIS and select Add Vector Layer from the Layer menu (these instructions assume an English GUI, obviously if you are using the Norwegian translated GUI it will be in Norwegian). Here you need to make sure Source type is set to File. Click browse. In the bottom right hand corner of the open file dialog, you will see a drop down menu. Here you should find an option for SOSI. Select a SOSI file and select and click open. Click Open A dialog will appear allowing you to select which layers from the SOSI file to open. Choose the ones you want and select OK. QGIS will load the data. Hope this helps. James From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of klausenlie [klausen...@online.no] Sent: 06 July 2014 13:37 To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS Hi James! Can you please tell me where you are in QGIS now? I haven`t found what you talk about here. Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149826.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi James! Can you please tell me where you are in QGIS now? I haven`t found what you talk about here. Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149826.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi Jürgen, And that fixes everything :) I now get the option to select SOSI in the files of type drop down menu in the vector file open dialog in both 32 bit and 64 bit. Both 32 and 64 bit versions of QGIS open SOSI files correctly with the file I used previously. I will do some more testing tomorrow and write back if I find any problems. Thank you very much for your help, this is excellent news for us. James From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Jürgen E. Fischer [j...@norbit.de] Sent: 06 July 2014 11:43 To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS Hi, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 11:42:29 +0200, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > Please try with the latest gdal-sosi package (1.11.0-2). I'm talking about OSGeo4W, if that wasn't obvious anyway. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi Jurgen! Si nice of you to help me. Correct me if I`m wrong, but I got the sosi->shapefile to work through the OsGeo4w shell. And from that I can open the shapefiles in QGIS. I guess I can`t do it in another way in QGIS yet? I have some questions about the creation process. Doing a job on one sosi-file creates both lines, points and polygon shape files. Why? And the placename shapefile opened in QGIS only gives me a set of points in the display. (Both iso and utf8 of the the sosi) I`m going to use the shapefiles in my own application so I just want to look at the files in QGIS first. Tommy -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149822.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] Opening Views->Panels->Log Messages
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Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi, On Sun, 06. Jul 2014 at 11:42:29 +0200, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > Please try with the latest gdal-sosi package (1.11.0-2). I'm talking about OSGeo4W, if that wasn't obvious anyway. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi James, On Thu, 26. Jun 2014 at 09:14:18 +, Stott, James wrote: > Just wondered if anything more has happened with this? Please try with the latest gdal-sosi package (1.11.0-2). QGIS opens the dataset several times, but sosi did file locking on windows and that prevented that. I removed it from fyba (isn't done on unix either) and now it appears to work. The new set of gdal packages also adds GeoPDF support and has some fixes for Pg, NAS and mssql, that didn't make it into 1.11.0. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] SOSI support in QGIS
Hi Joost. Thank you for your answer! Do you know the sosi library? I manages to use the shell and I am creating shapfiles from sosi. I have some problems with the placename files though. They only show up as dots. Is using only the .shp files the usual way to handle .shp files, or do you use the other files as well when it comes to displaying and using the shapefiles as part a map? I`m not familiar with this a 100% -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/SOSI-support-in-QGIS-tp5148046p5149818.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer