Re: [QGIS-Developer] Freeze exemption for feature duplication PRs

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

Thanks Andreas - I have added loomio votes for them here:

https://www.loomio.org/d/38Aiya0q/3-0-soft-freeze-exemptions

@all please add any other last minute freeze exception requests there.

Regards

Tim

> On 04 Jan 2018, at 08:57, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
> 
> Dear devs,
> 
> As the hard freeze of master is coming soon I would like to ask for an 
> additional exemption for three PRs developed by David Signer (OpenGIS), with 
> some assistance/advice from Matthias.
> 
> The PRs deal with feature duplication:
> 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5922 
>  (duplicate feature redigitized)
> 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5925 
>  (duplicate child feature in 
> relationwidget of attributeform)
> 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5961 
>  (Contextmenu with individual actions 
> (in form view side column))
> 
> I know, we are late with this functionality, but we (as customers) need this 
> functionality really soon and I think the code should be in good shape by 
> now. It would be kind of sad having to wait another couple months for this 
> functionality. It would also make the handling of features with relations 
> (duplicate, redigitize, link and unlink) more pleasant for many applications 
> and users.
> 
> Should you have any technical questions, you can ask David and/or Matthias.
> 
> Thanks for your reply,
> 
> Andreas
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[QGIS-Developer] Freeze exemption for feature duplication PRs

[Andreas Neumann]

Dear devs, 

As the hard freeze of master is coming soon I would like to ask for an
additional exemption for three PRs developed by David Signer (OpenGIS),
with some assistance/advice from Matthias. 

The PRs deal with feature duplication: 

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5922 (duplicate feature redigitized) 

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5925 (duplicate child feature in
relationwidget of attributeform) 

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5961 (Contextmenu with individual
actions (in form view side column)) 

I know, we are late with this functionality, but we (as customers) need
this functionality really soon and I think the code should be in good
shape by now. It would be kind of sad having to wait another couple
months for this functionality. It would also make the handling of
features with relations (duplicate, redigitize, link and unlink) more
pleasant for many applications and users. 

Should you have any technical questions, you can ask David and/or
Matthias. 

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Better updating for QGIS3?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Tobias,

On Wed, 03. Jan 2018 at 15:14:44 +0100, Tobias Wendorff wrote:
> So ten seperate bugfixes aka 10 new builds will result in 650 MB rx.

The builds only happen once a day - not on each commit.  And the packages only
cover qgis.  The dependencies are only updated the those package change - which
doesn't happen (that) often.


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] mirroring qgis.org repos

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 03. Jan 2018 at 10:39:16 +0100, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
> FYI: because apparently ubuntu.qgis.org is also used to request
> version.txt 

Not anymore since c67e7f4c3.


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[QGIS-Developer] Master is now only compatible with plugins for 3.0

[Borys Jurgiel]

Hi Lists,

Please note a small change in plugin compatibility behavior:

From now, 2.99 is explicitly compatible with plugins for 3.0, 
same as 3.99 will be compatible with 4.0 plugins etc. 

So you no longer need to declare the bizarre 2.99 - 3.99 compatibility range 
for your plugins. Just set QgisMinimumVersion to 3.0 in order to make them 
compatible with QGIS 2.99 - 3.98.

See the change and a short discussion: https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5904/

If you definitely disagree but you missed the discussion, feel free to raise 
it now, while we still can revert it.

Regards,

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Better updating for QGIS3?

[Tobias Wendorff]

Hi Andreas,

it's true for QGIS. I'm not talking about additional packages (
like GDAL and others).

http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/x86_64/release/qgis/qgis-dev/
As you can see, each build has 60 MB.

Equal to
http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/x86_64/release/qgis/qgis-rel-dev/
Each build is about 65 MB.

So ten seperate bugfixes aka 10 new builds will result in 650 MB rx.

Please do not forget that QGIS is also used in emerging markets
where the network infrastructure is not as optimal as in Western
countries.

Best regards,
Tobias


Am Mi, 3.01.2018, 15:05 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
> Hi Tobias,
>
> That is not entirely true. You can have a local package cache (part of
> the advanced installer settings). If you have that, OSGeo4W only
> downloads the new/updated packages.
>
> Andreas

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Better updating for QGIS3?

[Andreas Neumann]

BTW: the local package cache is also good practice if you want to 
install using OSGeo4W Nightlies on multiple machine on the same network. 
Just put the package cache on a network-drive, point the installer to 
the shared package cache and it is available to several PCs.


Andreas


On 03.01.2018 15:02, Tobias Wendorff wrote:

Hi there!

I've read your discussion about the soft freeze for QGIS3 and the
idea of "release once, update often".

Right now, OSGeo4W's installer for QGIS3 (on Windows) redownloads
a whole bunch of packages on every update of a nightly build.
The amount of data transmitted is not negligible.

There are plenty of users worldwide who do not have unlimited access
to the Internet. Some users access updates via the mobile network,
etc.

Could you agree with OSGeo4W how to improve the process? It would be
useful to transfer only the changed files and not the complete QGIS
package, which may contain only one or two updated files.


Best regards,
Tobias

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Better updating for QGIS3?

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Tobias,

That is not entirely true. You can have a local package cache (part of 
the advanced installer settings). If you have that, OSGeo4W only 
downloads the new/updated packages.


Andreas

On 03.01.2018 15:02, Tobias Wendorff wrote:

Hi there!

I've read your discussion about the soft freeze for QGIS3 and the
idea of "release once, update often".

Right now, OSGeo4W's installer for QGIS3 (on Windows) redownloads
a whole bunch of packages on every update of a nightly build.
The amount of data transmitted is not negligible.

There are plenty of users worldwide who do not have unlimited access
to the Internet. Some users access updates via the mobile network,
etc.

Could you agree with OSGeo4W how to improve the process? It would be
useful to transfer only the changed files and not the complete QGIS
package, which may contain only one or two updated files.


Best regards,
Tobias

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[QGIS-Developer] Better updating for QGIS3?

[Tobias Wendorff]

Hi there!

I've read your discussion about the soft freeze for QGIS3 and the
idea of "release once, update often".

Right now, OSGeo4W's installer for QGIS3 (on Windows) redownloads
a whole bunch of packages on every update of a nightly build.
The amount of data transmitted is not negligible.

There are plenty of users worldwide who do not have unlimited access
to the Internet. Some users access updates via the mobile network,
etc.

Could you agree with OSGeo4W how to improve the process? It would be
useful to transfer only the changed files and not the complete QGIS
package, which may contain only one or two updated files.


Best regards,
Tobias

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[QGIS-Developer] Processing plugin - Set style on resulting layer

[Jakob Lanstorp]

I'm building a Processing plugin used as an interface between QGIS and a
geological PostGIS database. 

The resulting layer is as standard loaded automatically (Processing best
practices). This resulting load (shapefile) happens after method
processAlgorithm of GeoAlgorithm has run. 

This gives me no chance of setting the resulting layer style. Is there any
post-processingAlgorithm method or anything else I can use? I'm aware of
"qgis:setstyleforvectorlayer" but my script is not meant for the modeller
and would like the algorithm to be run in one step not two steps. 

I may be out of scoop for what a Processing plugin is meant for - but like
the non ui and direct algorithm approach.

Jakob




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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rename Style manager to Symbol manager in 3.0?

[Aurelio Pires]

+1

Thanks,
Aurelio Pires

On 2018-01-03 01:15, Alexandre Neto wrote:
While writing some tutorials, I have noticed some possible 
nomenclature confusion between Symbols (as compounds of stacked 
markers, lines, fills outlines and color ramps) and Styles (a vector 
layer symbols and labels settings).


We currently have to places we call "Style manager":
1. The symbols library that we open by going to Options > Style Manager;
2. The Style manager tab in the Layer Styling panel.

I think that the first one should be renamed to "Symbols manager", 
since it exclusively allows to create, edit, group, import and export 
symbols, and not styles.


On the other hand, the Style manager in the Layer Styling panel allows 
to create, manage, load, save as default the layers' styles 
(unfortunatly it does not allow to save styles as we can do in 
properties).


Any strong opinions about this?

Thanks.

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS 3.0 Soft Feature Freeze

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Tim,


The bug fixing programme already started - I believe there are still 
funds to support bug fixing so those interested should register with 
Andreas (who can also confirm if there are still funds available). 
Agreed it will be good to step it up over this month as we ramp up to 
release.


yes - and we already spent approx. 2/3 of our dedicated 3.0 bug fixing 
funds (including some expected pending invoices which I should receive 
in the next couple days). See also 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6v4g8Ayb3wIt73rxFKD8h4B95MaTwt-eDit8YvReB0/edit?usp=sharing 
for what was done regarding the paid bug fixing programme.


Funds are not unlimited, unfortunately, so if you want to work on behalf 
of this bug fixing initiative, please contact me upfront to check if 
funds are still available. I am going to publish the financial report 
next week - it is almost finished. Still waiting for some invoices from 
work done last year.





* we do not release with severe AND prominent known issue


Sure if it is corrupting your data or what have you it should be held 
back.


crashes are just as bad as one usually looses project configuration 
during the crash.




* we have a shorter dot release cycle (maybe once a week or switch to 
nightly builds) to avoid waiting too long for fixes


-1 from me for this. I think this is really going to screw around with 
Jürgen’s workflow - lets try to minimise churn and just slot into the 
standard workflows as much as possible.


I agree. Better stick with Jürgens schedule. I think our releases are 
already often enough. Besides for those who really need them there are 
nightly and weeklies. No need for extra releases.


Andreas
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] mirroring qgis.org repos

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 02-01-18 16:09, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> On Tue, 02. Jan 2018 at 09:20:07 +0100, Bernhard Ströbl wrote:
>> We have -again- a problem mirroring the QGIS repos locally, see [1]. The
>> ubuntu subdomain is not accessible anymore and going directly to qgis.org
>> results in the same error as two years ago.
> 
> qgis.org is the domain.  ubuntu.qgis.org was just one of the catch alls.

FYI: because apparently ubuntu.qgis.org is also used to request
version.txt I just added ubuntu.qgis.org as alt name in the qgis.org
certificate: https://ubuntu.qgis.org/ubuntugis/

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-community-team] Rename Style manager to Symbol manager in 3.0?

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 03-01-18 02:15, Alexandre Neto wrote:
> While writing some tutorials, I have noticed some possible nomenclature
> confusion between Symbols (as compounds of stacked markers, lines, fills
> outlines and color ramps) and Styles (a vector layer symbols and labels
> settings).
> 
> We currently have to places we call "Style manager":
> 1. The symbols library that we open by going to Options > Style Manager;
> 2. The Style manager tab in the Layer Styling panel.
> 
> I think that the first one should be renamed to "Symbols manager", since
> it exclusively allows to create, edit, group, import and export symbols,
> and not styles.
> 
> On the other hand, the Style manager in the Layer Styling panel allows
> to create, manage, load, save as default the layers' styles
> (unfortunatly it does not allow to save styles as we can do in properties).
> 
> Any strong opinions about this?

Hi Alexandre,

I agree with you that at least the Title of the dialog which opens with
the button 'Open Library' should be named 'Symbol Manager'.

In my memory we also had a discussion about these definitions when Akbar
Gumbira did his QGIS SOC work on the Styling Repo work:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/58

I see that the actual tab name is also 'Symbology'. Is that the word
normally used for it (myself I always call this 'Styling'...).
On the other hand, I think we should stick to naming conventions that
are used by other GIS-software packages.

Regards,

Richard
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-user] QGIS 2.18 SSL Error

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 03-01-18 09:23, Chris Buckmaster wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I just opened QGIS 2.18.13 and noticed I am receiving a Custom
> Certificate Configuration message regarding an SSL Error (see image). I
> haven’t come across this before and am wondering if it is an issue at my
> client / server end, or with the location of the Ubuntu QGIS path as
> shown in the error?

Hi Chris (cc to dev list),

Your QGIS is requesting 'https://ubuntu.qgis.org/version.txt'.
Problem is that ubuntu.qgis.org does not have a valid certificate (yet).

Not sure since when that url is used, but in my view it should be just
'https://qgis.org/version.txt'.
(Well, in my personal opinion, it should not even phone back anyway,
unless people press a button to do this)

Anybody knows how ubuntu.qgis.org ended up in this builds?

Because there was also a question recently about a ubuntu.qgis.org repo,
I just added it as ALT-name to the certificate.

So Chris, it should now 'just work' :-) .
Let me know if not.

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS 3.0 Soft Feature Freeze

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

> On 03 Jan 2018, at 02:34, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ok, let me re-word option 2 as:
> 
> "2. Carefully manage release expectations, with detailed explanations
> of known issues and regressions in the release notes. Stress in press
> releases/release notes that 3.0 is a new major release and that the
> QGIS team do not consider it a suitable replacement for the current
> stable LTR release, and that it is highly recommended that
> organisations do not replace their existing QGIS 2.x installations
> before careful in-house testing and evaluation of its suitability for
> their workplace. The next stable LTR QGIS release will be QGIS 3.2."
> 
> I agree on release asap knowing it might not be the most stable release ever.
> But, I would make sure
> * we have a serious effort on bugfixing prior to the release and following it

The bug fixing programme already started - I believe there are still funds to 
support bug fixing so those interested should register with Andreas (who can 
also confirm if there are still funds available). Agreed it will be good to 
step it up over this month as we ramp up to release.


> * we do not release with severe AND prominent known issue

Sure if it is corrupting your data or what have you it should be held back.


> * we have a shorter dot release cycle (maybe once a week or switch to nightly 
> builds) to avoid waiting too long for fixes

-1 from me for this. I think this is really going to screw around with Jürgen’s 
workflow - lets try to minimise churn and just slot into the standard workflows 
as much as possible.

Regards

Tim



> 
> Best regards,
> Denis
>  

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS 2.99 server – libdummy.so woes

[Tim Sutton]

Hi Vincent

> On 03 Jan 2018, at 09:48, Vincent Habchi  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> libdummy.so does not link properly on OS X. It binds to non-existent dylibs 
> (well, TBH, it binds to actual dylibs, but the path to them is wrong). As a 
> stopgap measure, can I simply delete this lib before packaging the app? I’m 
> not sure what this library is used for.
> 
> Thanks, happy new year to all the team!

Happy new year to you too! Can you share some more info on what you are doing 
in terms of packaging QGIS on MacOS? Are you packaging based on brew builds or 
using some other workflow? I’m interested in making sure that Mac packaging 
efforts are unified and shared as much as possible.

With specific reference to lib dummy - I am not sure what it is used for / if 
it is used - hopefully someone else on the list can help with that…

Regards

Tim

> 
> Vincent
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Removing QgsProject.instance() from Python bindings?

[Enrico Ferreguti]

...thanks. Many QgsProject.instance() calls even in our plugins too!

2018-01-03 3:37 GMT+01:00 Nyall Dawson :

> >>
> >> Just wondering... before 3.0 launch, should we remove
> >> QgsProject.instance() from the Python bindings, in favour of something
> >> like iface.activeProject()?
> >>
> >> Sometime in the future (4.0?) we'll end up killing
> >> QgsProject.instance(), but in the meantime is it a good move to push
> >> people away from relying on this method?
> >>
> >> I'd say yes, given that the 2.x -> 3.0 api break is so huge anyway and
> >> will generally result in substantial plugin rewriting (vs just
> >> modifying a few methods), maybe we're better off to get PyQGIS
> >> developers to deal with this now and factor it into their new
> >> designs?*
> >>
> >> Nyall
> >>
> >> * based on the belief that 3.x -> 4.0 will be a gentler transition!!
> >> ___
>
> Ok, based on the results of https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/5974 ,
> we'll have to defer this until 4.0 when (hopefully) we have much fewer
> QgsProject::instance() calls in core/gui/providers.
>
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