Re: [QGIS-Developer] Bug #21460? | is QGIS non-commercial?

2019-04-08 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 19:22, Benjamin Ducke  wrote:
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
> On 08/04/2019 10:30, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> > Hi Cory,
> >
> > On 08/04/19 00:57, Cory Albrecht wrote:
> >> I was wondering when Bug #21460
> >>  was going to get some attention?
> >> It's about  QGIS not forming proper PostGIS SQL updates correctly,
> >> specifically for null values.
> >
> > may I suggest you an interesting read?
> > https://nyalldawson.net/2016/08/how-to-effectively-get-things-changed-in-qgis/
>
> There is a (common) problem with that text
> and your reply that is increasingly giving
> my headaches when thinking how to advertise
> QGIS among colleagues:
>
> Quote (from the URL above):
>
> "unlike the commercial GIS offerings"
>
> This suggests that QGIS is a non-commercial
> project.
>
> But a few lines further down we read:
>
> "either organisations who offer commercial QGIS
> support"
>
> "if you hire a core QGIS developer to make your
> changes"

Thanks, fixed.

Nyall

>
> These are clearly commercial offerings/activities,
> and people are being advised to make use of them.
>
> To be clear: I don't think there is anything wrong
> with that. But I think that it is misleading to
> present QGIS as "non-commercial". It is open
> source and non-proprietary, in the sense that no
> single individual or institution owns the rights
> to it. But commerce is clearly part of QGIS now.
>
> As I see it, there are two "honest" options:
>
> (1) Stop calling QGIS non-commercial and keep
> advising people to hire developers for fixing
> bugs and implementing features.
>
> (2) Keep calling QGIS a non-commercial project
> and stop advising people to hire developers
> to fix bugs or develop features for them.
>
> Best,
>
> Ben
>
>
> > Cheers.
> >
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Bug #21460? | is QGIS non-commercial?

2019-04-08 Thread Benjamin Ducke
Hi Paolo,

On 08/04/2019 10:30, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi Cory,
> 
> On 08/04/19 00:57, Cory Albrecht wrote:
>> I was wondering when Bug #21460
>>  was going to get some attention?
>> It's about  QGIS not forming proper PostGIS SQL updates correctly,
>> specifically for null values.
> 
> may I suggest you an interesting read?
> https://nyalldawson.net/2016/08/how-to-effectively-get-things-changed-in-qgis/

There is a (common) problem with that text
and your reply that is increasingly giving
my headaches when thinking how to advertise
QGIS among colleagues:

Quote (from the URL above):

"unlike the commercial GIS offerings"

This suggests that QGIS is a non-commercial
project.

But a few lines further down we read:

"either organisations who offer commercial QGIS
support"

"if you hire a core QGIS developer to make your
changes"

These are clearly commercial offerings/activities,
and people are being advised to make use of them.

To be clear: I don't think there is anything wrong
with that. But I think that it is misleading to
present QGIS as "non-commercial". It is open
source and non-proprietary, in the sense that no
single individual or institution owns the rights
to it. But commerce is clearly part of QGIS now.

As I see it, there are two "honest" options:

(1) Stop calling QGIS non-commercial and keep
advising people to hire developers for fixing
bugs and implementing features.

(2) Keep calling QGIS a non-commercial project
and stop advising people to hire developers
to fix bugs or develop features for them.

Best,

Ben


> Cheers.
> 
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