Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi Tim,

Il 01/03/20 20:21, Tim Sutton ha scritto:
> Hi
> 
> That’s a bit of an odd question Paolo, I’m surprised that you would ask
> this….and also a bit surprising that Salvatore did this work without
> collaborating with us. The changelog we have built and operated for many
> years now allows for collaborative editing of entries in a structured
> way, properly edited for end users to read nicely and sorted into
> different categories with a feed that can be ingested into QGIS.org
>  where it can be translated into multiple languages.
> And for the next release we will pull in the items automatically too so
> his work won’t really add anything that we don’t already have.

given the fact that we failed to deliver the changelog in time for the
last two releases I'm asking myself if perhaps we didn't do something
overly complicated, making it difficult for others to contribute.
If you believe we can recover full functionality in a reasonable time
span, please disregard my question. I did not mean to diminish the value
your work, of course.
Cheers.

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi Again

By the way your filter URL link for the new features 
(https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pulls?utf8=✓=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+label%3Afeature+merged%3A2019-10-25T00%3A00%3A00Z..2020-02-21T00%3A00%3A00Z
 
)
 was a great help thanks Salvetore - I used it to apply the Changelog tag to 
all of those features.

Regards

Tim

> On 2 Mar 2020, at 12:08, Tim Sutton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Salvetore
> 
> 
> Thank you for your email, and I didn’t mean to be rude to you in my reply. 
> But I meant non-collaborative in that you did something different to the 
> normal way of doing things without sharing your plans with anyone else or 
> e.g. talking to others in the community, saying ‘hey I have this idea for a 
> better way of doing the changelog’. What you made looks really nice but the 
> changelog has a whole bunch of other workflows that stem off it for 
> publishing the information to QGIS.org , making available 
> for translations, cleaning up the text, acknowledging funders, etc. which it 
> doesn’t replace. So now we have flux because people think there are two 
> systems. All we need is for people to simply mark PR’s with the Changelog tag 
> and we would get the same outcome (ok without some of the other nice goodies 
> you have made for stats etc). And then those same entries will appear on the 
> changelog site and others can do the other parts of the work flow.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2020, at 09:53, Totò > > wrote:
>> 
>> Goodmorning everyone,
>> I'm sorry I didn't follow the official mode, but I didn't find any trace of
>> it in the thread.
>> 
>> I read that there was a need to help and I did it the way you know.
>> 
>> I will have made a mistake, I will have been rushed, but I did not think
>> that my work could be considered as a "non-collaboration with you".
>> 
>> I thank you for what you do and I will continue to collaborate.
>> 
>> Thanks Paolo for your interest, you are the only one who has considered my
>> work even if it is useless in the eyes of others.
>> 
>> I made the changelog in three days as it does not seem fair to me that QGIS
>> 3.12 comes out without changelog.
>> Many friends ask me: what's new with 3.12 ??
>> what do I answer ??
>> I preferred to scratch the data and make the changelog.
>> 
>> Thank you all, I respect you very much for all the work you do.
>> W QGIS.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi Salvetore


Thank you for your email, and I didn’t mean to be rude to you in my reply. But 
I meant non-collaborative in that you did something different to the normal way 
of doing things without sharing your plans with anyone else or e.g. talking to 
others in the community, saying ‘hey I have this idea for a better way of doing 
the changelog’. What you made looks really nice but the changelog has a whole 
bunch of other workflows that stem off it for publishing the information to 
QGIS.org , making available for translations, cleaning up the 
text, acknowledging funders, etc. which it doesn’t replace. So now we have flux 
because people think there are two systems. All we need is for people to simply 
mark PR’s with the Changelog tag and we would get the same outcome (ok without 
some of the other nice goodies you have made for stats etc). And then those 
same entries will appear on the changelog site and others can do the other 
parts of the work flow.

Best regards

Tim

> On 2 Mar 2020, at 09:53, Totò  wrote:
> 
> Goodmorning everyone,
> I'm sorry I didn't follow the official mode, but I didn't find any trace of
> it in the thread.
> 
> I read that there was a need to help and I did it the way you know.
> 
> I will have made a mistake, I will have been rushed, but I did not think
> that my work could be considered as a "non-collaboration with you".
> 
> I thank you for what you do and I will continue to collaborate.
> 
> Thanks Paolo for your interest, you are the only one who has considered my
> work even if it is useless in the eyes of others.
> 
> I made the changelog in three days as it does not seem fair to me that QGIS
> 3.12 comes out without changelog.
> Many friends ask me: what's new with 3.12 ??
> what do I answer ??
> I preferred to scratch the data and make the changelog.
> 
> Thank you all, I respect you very much for all the work you do.
> W QGIS.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Totò]

Goodmorning everyone,
I'm sorry I didn't follow the official mode, but I didn't find any trace of
it in the thread.

I read that there was a need to help and I did it the way you know.

I will have made a mistake, I will have been rushed, but I did not think
that my work could be considered as a "non-collaboration with you".

I thank you for what you do and I will continue to collaborate.

Thanks Paolo for your interest, you are the only one who has considered my
work even if it is useless in the eyes of others.

I made the changelog in three days as it does not seem fair to me that QGIS
3.12 comes out without changelog.
Many friends ask me: what's new with 3.12 ??
what do I answer ??
I preferred to scratch the data and make the changelog.

Thank you all, I respect you very much for all the work you do.
W QGIS.



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

That’s a bit of an odd question Paolo, I’m surprised that you would ask 
this….and also a bit surprising that Salvatore did this work without 
collaborating with us. The changelog we have built and operated for many years 
now allows for collaborative editing of entries in a structured way, properly 
edited for end users to read nicely and sorted into different categories with a 
feed that can be ingested into QGIS.org  where it can be 
translated into multiple languages. And for the next release we will pull in 
the items automatically too so his work won’t really add anything that we don’t 
already have.


Regards

Tim

> On 1 Mar 2020, at 11:13, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim, all,
> I surely miss something here, but what is the reason for our system? I
> have seen an interesting recent attempt by Salvatore:
> https://github.com/pigreco/changelog312 
> 
> which looks much easier to implement and update.
> Cheers.
> 
> Il 28/02/20 13:44, Tim Sutton ha scritto:
>> Hi Nyall (and others up for helping with the changelog)
>> 
>> Firstly apologies I couldn’t work on the changelog much on the run up to
>> the release. If those who added features in 3.12 could be so kind as to
>> add the ‘Changelog’ label to their PR’s and make sure the description in
>> the PR is nicely formatted, I will put them all through into the
>> changelog. Unfortunately I can’t (yet) slice it e.g. by date so I have
>> to do it in one go. I did go through about 18 pages!!! Of PR’s and tried
>> to add Changelog label to them but there are many many more pages of
>> PR’s to review. You guys are machines. Unfortunately the volunteer that
>> Paolo found last release to help with the changelog hasn’t resurfaced,
>> so anyone who can help will earn my (our) undying gratitude.
>> 
>> I am going to try to have the auto-adding of changelog entries (based on
>> a label) done mid cycle for the next release.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 05:31, Nyall Dawson >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 19:49, Denis Rouzaud >> 
>>> >> wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits
 make sense.
 
 For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will
 output corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and
 author.
 Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE]
 in one of their commit message or in the PR title, within the
 corresponding dates and targeting master
 script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2 
 
 output (changelog):
 https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47 
 
>>> 
>>> Are you sure this is working? There's definitely items missing from
>>> this, e..g. https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33165 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nyall
>>> 
>>> 
 
 That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.
 
 Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a
 Changelog label?
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Denis
 
 
 Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton >>> 
 >> a écrit :
> 
> Hi
> 
> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn  
> >> wrote:
> 
> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  
> >> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> 
> 
> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  
> >> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are
> planning to automatically create entries from the changelog as part
> of the QGIS funded improvements we are doing
> 
> 
> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
> this tag :(
> 
> 
> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to
> each PR (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we
> can just go through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I
> guess is to strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when
> they submit their PR.
> 
> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
> and added also by others.
> 
> 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi Tim, all,
I surely miss something here, but what is the reason for our system? I
have seen an interesting recent attempt by Salvatore:
https://github.com/pigreco/changelog312
which looks much easier to implement and update.
Cheers.

Il 28/02/20 13:44, Tim Sutton ha scritto:
> Hi Nyall (and others up for helping with the changelog)
> 
> Firstly apologies I couldn’t work on the changelog much on the run up to
> the release. If those who added features in 3.12 could be so kind as to
> add the ‘Changelog’ label to their PR’s and make sure the description in
> the PR is nicely formatted, I will put them all through into the
> changelog. Unfortunately I can’t (yet) slice it e.g. by date so I have
> to do it in one go. I did go through about 18 pages!!! Of PR’s and tried
> to add Changelog label to them but there are many many more pages of
> PR’s to review. You guys are machines. Unfortunately the volunteer that
> Paolo found last release to help with the changelog hasn’t resurfaced,
> so anyone who can help will earn my (our) undying gratitude.
> 
> I am going to try to have the auto-adding of changelog entries (based on
> a label) done mid cycle for the next release.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 05:31, Nyall Dawson > > wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 19:49, Denis Rouzaud > > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits
>>> make sense.
>>>
>>> For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will
>>> output corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and
>>> author.
>>> Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE]
>>> in one of their commit message or in the PR title, within the
>>> corresponding dates and targeting master
>>> script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2
>>> output (changelog):
>>> https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47
>>
>> Are you sure this is working? There's definitely items missing from
>> this, e..g. https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33165
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>>
>>>
>>> That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.
>>>
>>> Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a
>>> Changelog label?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Denis
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton >> > a écrit :

 Hi

 On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn >>> > wrote:

 On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton >>> > wrote:

 Hi



 On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson >>> > wrote:




 Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are
 planning to automatically create entries from the changelog as part
 of the QGIS funded improvements we are doing


 In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
 this tag :(


 Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to
 each PR (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we
 can just go through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I
 guess is to strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when
 they submit their PR.

 Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
 and added also by others.


 What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think
 it acted as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look,
 this is cool] in the past. If the first two are about to be solved
 by more precise labels, do we keep it for the third one or are there
 other compelling reasons?


 For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the
 harvester to take a user-defined list of tags that should be
 harvested, so that we can deal with things flexibly. Basically just
 looking for advice on which tags I should use and then we will set
 it up to use those.

 Thanks,

 Tim



 Matthias


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi Nyall (and others up for helping with the changelog)

Firstly apologies I couldn’t work on the changelog much on the run up to the 
release. If those who added features in 3.12 could be so kind as to add the 
‘Changelog’ label to their PR’s and make sure the description in the PR is 
nicely formatted, I will put them all through into the changelog. Unfortunately 
I can’t (yet) slice it e.g. by date so I have to do it in one go. I did go 
through about 18 pages!!! Of PR’s and tried to add Changelog label to them but 
there are many many more pages of PR’s to review. You guys are machines. 
Unfortunately the volunteer that Paolo found last release to help with the 
changelog hasn’t resurfaced, so anyone who can help will earn my (our) undying 
gratitude.

I am going to try to have the auto-adding of changelog entries (based on a 
label) done mid cycle for the next release.

Regards


Tim

> On 11 Feb 2020, at 05:31, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 19:49, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits make 
>> sense.
>> 
>> For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will output 
>> corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and author.
>> Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE] in one 
>> of their commit message or in the PR title, within the corresponding dates 
>> and targeting master
>> script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2
>> output (changelog): 
>> https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47
> 
> Are you sure this is working? There's definitely items missing from
> this, e..g. https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33165
> 
> Nyall
> 
> 
>> 
>> That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.
>> 
>> Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a Changelog label?
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Denis
>> 
>> 
>> Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
>>> automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
>>> improvements we are doing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
>>> this tag :(
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
>>> (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
>>> through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to 
>>> strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.
>>> 
>>> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
>>> and added also by others.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it acted 
>>> as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is cool] in 
>>> the past. If the first two are about to be solved by more precise labels, 
>>> do we keep it for the third one or are there other compelling reasons?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the 
>>> harvester to take a user-defined list of tags that should be harvested, so 
>>> that we can deal with things flexibly. Basically just looking for advice on 
>>> which tags I should use and then we will set it up to use those.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> —
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Sutton
>>> 
>>> Co-founder: Kartoza
>>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org
>>> 
>>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>>> 
>>> Desktop GIS programming services
>>> Geospatial web development
>>> GIS Training
>>> Consulting Services
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Totò]

Tim Sutton-6 wrote
> Hi All
> 
> QGIS 3.12 will be released in 19 days and our changelog needs a lot of
> love before that. If you are able to, please spend some time documenting
> new features and key improvements in the changelog.
> 
> https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.12/
> https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.12/;

 Hello to all,
here my contribution

https://github.com/pigreco/changelog312

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Nyall Dawson]

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 19:49, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits make sense.
>
> For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will output 
> corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and author.
> Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE] in one 
> of their commit message or in the PR title, within the corresponding dates 
> and targeting master
> script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2
> output (changelog): 
> https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47

Are you sure this is working? There's definitely items missing from
this, e..g. https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33165

Nyall


>
> That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.
>
> Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a Changelog label?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Denis
>
>
> Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>>
>> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
>> automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
>> improvements we are doing
>>
>>
>> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
>> this tag :(
>>
>>
>> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
>> (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
>> through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to 
>> strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.
>>
>> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
>> and added also by others.
>>
>>
>> What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it acted 
>> as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is cool] in 
>> the past. If the first two are about to be solved by more precise labels, do 
>> we keep it for the third one or are there other compelling reasons?
>>
>>
>> For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the 
>> harvester to take a user-defined list of tags that should be harvested, so 
>> that we can deal with things flexibly. Basically just looking for advice on 
>> which tags I should use and then we will set it up to use those.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> —
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Sutton
>>
>> Co-founder: Kartoza
>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org
>>
>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>>
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>> Consulting Services
>>
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>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Anita Hapsari]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for the late reply.
Also thank you Denis for the script.

I've made a PR for this issue here:
https://github.com/kartoza/prj.app/pull/1133
Please kindly give your feedback there.

Thank you.

Kind regards,
Anita

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 16:52, Tim Sutton  wrote:

> Thanks Denis
>
> Yes agreed, working against PR’s is better. I forwarded your script links
> below on to Dimas and Anita who are working their magic to pull the content
> over to the changelog.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 7 Feb 2020, at 09:48, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits make
> sense.
>
> For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will
> output corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and author.
> Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE] in
> one of their commit message or in the PR title, within the corresponding
> dates and targeting master
> script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2
> output (changelog):
> https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47
>
> That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.
>
> Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a Changelog
> label?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Denis
>
>
> Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton  a écrit :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>>
>> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning
>> to automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS
>> funded improvements we are doing
>>
>>
>> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
>> this tag :(
>>
>>
>> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR
>> (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go
>> through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to
>> strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.
>>
>> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
>> and added also by others.
>>
>>
>> What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it
>> acted as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is
>> cool] in the past. If the first two are about to be solved by more precise
>> labels, do we keep it for the third one or are there other compelling
>> reasons?
>>
>>
>> For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the
>> harvester to take a user-defined list of tags that should be harvested, so
>> that we can deal with things flexibly. Basically just looking for advice on
>> which tags I should use and then we will set it up to use those.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> —
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tim Sutton*
>>
>> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
>> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org 
>>
>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>>
>> Desktop GIS programming services
>> Geospatial web development
>> GIS Training
>> Consulting Services
>>
>> *Skype*: timlinux
>> *IRC:* timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
>>
>> I'd love to connect. Here's my calendar link
>>  to make finding time easy.
>>
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>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Thanks Denis

Yes agreed, working against PR’s is better. I forwarded your script links below 
on to Dimas and Anita who are working their magic to pull the content over to 
the changelog.

Regards

Tim

> On 7 Feb 2020, at 09:48, Denis Rouzaud  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits make sense.
> 
> For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will output 
> corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and author.
> Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE] in one 
> of their commit message or in the PR title, within the corresponding dates 
> and targeting master
> script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2 
> 
> output (changelog): 
> https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47 
> 
> 
> That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.
> 
> Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a Changelog label?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Denis
> 
> 
> Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton  > a écrit :
> Hi
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn > > wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton >> > wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 
 On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson >>> > wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning 
 to automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS 
 funded improvements we are doing
 
 
 In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
 this tag :(
 
 
 Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
 (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
 through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to 
 strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.
>>> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
>>> and added also by others.
>> 
>> What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it acted 
>> as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is cool] in 
>> the past. If the first two are about to be solved by more precise labels, do 
>> we keep it for the third one or are there other compelling reasons?
> 
> For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the 
> harvester to take a user-defined list of tags that should be harvested, so 
> that we can deal with things flexibly. Basically just looking for advice on 
> which tags I should use and then we will set it up to use those.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> 
>> Matthias
> 
> —
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Sutton
> 
> Co-founder: Kartoza
> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org 
> 
> Visit http://kartoza.com  to find out about open source:
> 
> Desktop GIS programming services
> Geospatial web development
> GIS Training
> Consulting Services
> 
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> 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Denis Rouzaud]

Hi all,

It sounds that going through pull requests rather than the commits make
sense.

For now, I have created a small -- not anymore ;) -- script that will
output corresponding pull requests as JSON with title, HTML body and author.
Working for this series, the script returns all PRs having [FEATURE] in one
of their commit message or in the PR title, within the corresponding dates
and targeting master
script: https://gist.github.com/3nids/0cf399297888ea8ebd0e64169c9fbbc2
output (changelog):
https://gist.github.com/3nids/4f6e948a94526515391899a5701cce47

That should be easy to feed the changelog with this.

Probably for the future, it would be interesting to create a Changelog
label?

Best wishes,

Denis


Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 00:25, Tim Sutton  a écrit :

> Hi
>
> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>
> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning
> to automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS
> funded improvements we are doing
>
>
> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
> this tag :(
>
>
> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR
> (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go
> through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to
> strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.
>
> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
> and added also by others.
>
>
> What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it
> acted as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is
> cool] in the past. If the first two are about to be solved by more precise
> labels, do we keep it for the third one or are there other compelling
> reasons?
>
>
> For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the
> harvester to take a user-defined list of tags that should be harvested, so
> that we can deal with things flexibly. Basically just looking for advice on
> which tags I should use and then we will set it up to use those.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> Matthias
>
>
> —
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tim Sutton*
>
> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>
> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>
> Desktop GIS programming services
> Geospatial web development
> GIS Training
> Consulting Services
>
> *Skype*: timlinux
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>
> I'd love to connect. Here's my calendar link
>  to make finding time easy.
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:03, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
> 
> On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
>>> automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
>>> improvements we are doing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
>>> this tag :(
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
>>> (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
>>> through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to 
>>> strongly encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.
>> Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
>> and added also by others.
> 
> What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it acted 
> as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is cool] in the 
> past. If the first two are about to be solved by more precise labels, do we 
> keep it for the third one or are there other compelling reasons?

For me, I don’t have any strong opinions - I think we will build the harvester 
to take a user-defined list of tags that should be harvested, so that we can 
deal with things flexibly. Basically just looking for advice on which tags I 
should use and then we will set it up to use those.

Thanks,

Tim


> 
> Matthias

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Matthias Kuhn]

On 2/5/20 11:33 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:

Hi



On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:




Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
improvements we are doing


In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
this tag :(


Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
(either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to strongly 
encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.

Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
and added also by others.


What are the guidelines for using [feature] in the future? I think it 
acted as a combination of [needs docs], [changelog] and [look, this is 
cool] in the past. If the first two are about to be solved by more 
precise labels, do we keep it for the third one or are there other 
compelling reasons?


Matthias

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Nyall Dawson]

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
> automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
> improvements we are doing
>
>
> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
> this tag :(
>
>
> Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
> (either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
> through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to strongly 
> encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.

Definitely. Like you've pointed out, it could be done retrospectively,
and added also by others.

Nyall

>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> —
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim Sutton
>
> Co-founder: Kartoza
> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org
>
> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>
> Desktop GIS programming services
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi



> On 4 Feb 2020, at 23:57, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
>> automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
>> improvements we are doing
> 
> In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
> this tag :(


Now about we add a ‘Changelog’ tag that we can just go and add to each PR 
(either at the time of making it or retrosopectively) and we can just go 
through the PR queue and scan for those? Other options I guess is to strongly 
encourage people to use a relevant tag when they submit their PR.

Regards

Tim

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Nyall Dawson]

On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 19:21, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Thanks Nyall
>
>
>
> On 2 Feb 2020, at 22:37, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 08:10, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
>
> Hi All
>
> QGIS 3.12 will be released in 19 days and our changelog needs a lot of love 
> before that. If you are able to, please spend some time documenting new 
> features and key improvements in the changelog.
>
> https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.12/
>
>
> Thanks for the heads-up Tim!
>
> I'm really busy over the next fortnight, so doubt I'll get time to do
> the initial git->changelog population (which has been done since QGIS
> 2.10 or something). Before the entries get populated in depth, we need
> a volunteer to trawl through the git changelog from the time of 3.12
> branch up to feature freeze and copy all the commits which add
> changelog worthy changes to the changelog. It can be just a direct
> copy-and-paste, leaving the cleanup for others to do later.
>
> This needs to be done first, so that we can condense similar entries
> into one and define the general outline of the changelog **before** we
> start adding screenshots and nice text.
>
>
> Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
> automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
> improvements we are doing

In my experience... no. Some of us naughty developers don't always use
this tag :(

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Thanks Nyall



> On 2 Feb 2020, at 22:37, Nyall Dawson  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 08:10, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> QGIS 3.12 will be released in 19 days and our changelog needs a lot of love 
>> before that. If you are able to, please spend some time documenting new 
>> features and key improvements in the changelog.
>> 
>> https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.12/
>> 
> 
> Thanks for the heads-up Tim!
> 
> I'm really busy over the next fortnight, so doubt I'll get time to do
> the initial git->changelog population (which has been done since QGIS
> 2.10 or something). Before the entries get populated in depth, we need
> a volunteer to trawl through the git changelog from the time of 3.12
> branch up to feature freeze and copy all the commits which add
> changelog worthy changes to the changelog. It can be just a direct
> copy-and-paste, leaving the cleanup for others to do later.
> 
> This needs to be done first, so that we can condense similar entries
> into one and define the general outline of the changelog **before** we
> start adding screenshots and nice text.

Is it enough to just grab the items labelled ‘Feature’ - we are planning to 
automatically create entries from the changelog as part of the QGIS funded 
improvements we are doing

https://github.com/kartoza/prj.app/issues/1128 


But I was planning to set it up from after 3.12 goes out. @Anita Hapsari can 
you whip up something to pull all the entries out for us from over the 3.12 
development period?

Regards

Tim


> 
> Any volunteers?
> 
> Nyall

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Nyall Dawson]

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 08:10, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> QGIS 3.12 will be released in 19 days and our changelog needs a lot of love 
> before that. If you are able to, please spend some time documenting new 
> features and key improvements in the changelog.
>
> https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.12/
>

Thanks for the heads-up Tim!

I'm really busy over the next fortnight, so doubt I'll get time to do
the initial git->changelog population (which has been done since QGIS
2.10 or something). Before the entries get populated in depth, we need
a volunteer to trawl through the git changelog from the time of 3.12
branch up to feature freeze and copy all the commits which add
changelog worthy changes to the changelog. It can be just a direct
copy-and-paste, leaving the cleanup for others to do later.

This needs to be done first, so that we can condense similar entries
into one and define the general outline of the changelog **before** we
start adding screenshots and nice text.

Any volunteers?

Nyall
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[QGIS-Developer] Please help with the changelog for 3.12

[Tim Sutton]

Hi All

QGIS 3.12 will be released in 19 days and our changelog needs a lot of love 
before that. If you are able to, please spend some time documenting new 
features and key improvements in the changelog.

https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.12/ 


Thanks!

Regards

Tim
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