Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-28 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Jürgen,

Can the work outlined below, to move the interrupting dialog's
functionality to top of Composer's Composition Panel, be included with 2.2
release?

Regards,

Larry


On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:04 AM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Larry

 +1 for your proposal !


 2014-01-26 Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com

 Hi,

 So, to recap:

 +1 to remove the annoying, interrupting new name dialog,
 and +1 for moving its functionality to the top of the Composition Panel

 A non-editable field displaying the name and a simple edit button next to
 it that opens up the same rename dialog as is found in the Composer Manager
 would be all that is needed. I suggest the continued use of the rename
 dialog since it offers validation that the name is unique among existing
 composers names, and allows for quickly building a name off of an existing
 name.

 If this change (not really a feature) will be allowed for 2.2 release, I
 can commit the work today.

 Regards,

 Larry


 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I specifically added that dialog, since so many times my composers
 resulted in unrecognizable names. I believe without it many users will
 suffer from this as well. However, I'm not necessarily keen on its
 implementation, but wish not to remove the functionality, just move it
 elsewhere. The new naming functionality (e.g. to quickly base a name off of
 an existing composer, etc.) is already part of Composer Manager, so nothing
 needs changed there.

 A better solution when creating a new composer, and gently nudging the
 user to set a name for it, might be to move the dialog's widget
 functionality to a 'Name' field at the top of the Composition panel.

 Then, when a user creates a new composer and the main window is shown,
 set keyboard focus to that field and set its background to a color to
 signify the user should consider entering a unique name (e.g. pale yellow).
 The background could be on a singleshot timer so that it fades out after a
 bit.

 This would only be when creating a new Composer; and, since the field
 could already have a generated name inputted, the user can just choose to
 ignore it. This also means that GUI scripts don't have to deal with the
 current interim dialog.

 Regards,

 Larry


 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.netwrote:

 Hi,

 +1 for removing it. Maybe an auto-generated name that does not clash
 with existing composer names would be useful - which the user can later
 on rename.

 The user will have to set paper format anyway. In this step he can also
 set the composer name.

 Andreas

 Am 25.01.2014 09:04, schrieb kimaidou:
  Hi Martin
 
  +1 for removing it, as it is a step I usually skip too. But only if we
  provide a input field in the composer properties tab to allow to
 add/change
  the name directly in the opened composer (above the paper size for
  example). This way I won't need to open the composer manager only to
 rename
  it afterwards.
 
  Michael
 
 
  2014/1/25 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com
 
  Hi
 
  Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
  composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
  composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
  me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove
 it
  :-)
 
  Regards
  Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-26 Thread kimaidou
Hi Larry

+1 for your proposal !


2014-01-26 Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com

 Hi,

 So, to recap:

 +1 to remove the annoying, interrupting new name dialog,
 and +1 for moving its functionality to the top of the Composition Panel

 A non-editable field displaying the name and a simple edit button next to
 it that opens up the same rename dialog as is found in the Composer Manager
 would be all that is needed. I suggest the continued use of the rename
 dialog since it offers validation that the name is unique among existing
 composers names, and allows for quickly building a name off of an existing
 name.

 If this change (not really a feature) will be allowed for 2.2 release, I
 can commit the work today.

 Regards,

 Larry


 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I specifically added that dialog, since so many times my composers
 resulted in unrecognizable names. I believe without it many users will
 suffer from this as well. However, I'm not necessarily keen on its
 implementation, but wish not to remove the functionality, just move it
 elsewhere. The new naming functionality (e.g. to quickly base a name off of
 an existing composer, etc.) is already part of Composer Manager, so nothing
 needs changed there.

 A better solution when creating a new composer, and gently nudging the
 user to set a name for it, might be to move the dialog's widget
 functionality to a 'Name' field at the top of the Composition panel.

 Then, when a user creates a new composer and the main window is shown,
 set keyboard focus to that field and set its background to a color to
 signify the user should consider entering a unique name (e.g. pale yellow).
 The background could be on a singleshot timer so that it fades out after a
 bit.

 This would only be when creating a new Composer; and, since the field
 could already have a generated name inputted, the user can just choose to
 ignore it. This also means that GUI scripts don't have to deal with the
 current interim dialog.

 Regards,

 Larry


 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.netwrote:

 Hi,

 +1 for removing it. Maybe an auto-generated name that does not clash
 with existing composer names would be useful - which the user can later
 on rename.

 The user will have to set paper format anyway. In this step he can also
 set the composer name.

 Andreas

 Am 25.01.2014 09:04, schrieb kimaidou:
  Hi Martin
 
  +1 for removing it, as it is a step I usually skip too. But only if we
  provide a input field in the composer properties tab to allow to
 add/change
  the name directly in the opened composer (above the paper size for
  example). This way I won't need to open the composer manager only to
 rename
  it afterwards.
 
  Michael
 
 
  2014/1/25 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com
 
  Hi
 
  Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
  composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
  composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
  me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
  :-)
 
  Regards
  Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-25 Thread kimaidou
Hi Martin

+1 for removing it, as it is a step I usually skip too. But only if we
provide a input field in the composer properties tab to allow to add/change
the name directly in the opened composer (above the paper size for
example). This way I won't need to open the composer manager only to rename
it afterwards.

Michael


2014/1/25 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com

 Hi

 Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
 composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
 composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
 me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
 :-)

 Regards
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Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-25 Thread Anita Graser

Am 25.01.2014, 06:05 Uhr, schrieb Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com:

Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
:-)


+1 for removing the the popup. For me, it always stops me in my workflow.  
Even though I know it's there, I'm always surprised and just hit enter to  
make it go away.


Best wishes,
Anita


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Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi,

+1 for removing it. Maybe an auto-generated name that does not clash
with existing composer names would be useful - which the user can later
on rename.

The user will have to set paper format anyway. In this step he can also
set the composer name.

Andreas

Am 25.01.2014 09:04, schrieb kimaidou:
 Hi Martin
 
 +1 for removing it, as it is a step I usually skip too. But only if we
 provide a input field in the composer properties tab to allow to add/change
 the name directly in the opened composer (above the paper size for
 example). This way I won't need to open the composer manager only to rename
 it afterwards.
 
 Michael
 
 
 2014/1/25 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com
 
 Hi

 Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
 composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
 composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
 me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
 :-)

 Regards
 Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-25 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi,

I specifically added that dialog, since so many times my composers resulted
in unrecognizable names. I believe without it many users will suffer from
this as well. However, I'm not necessarily keen on its implementation, but
wish not to remove the functionality, just move it elsewhere. The new
naming functionality (e.g. to quickly base a name off of an existing
composer, etc.) is already part of Composer Manager, so nothing needs
changed there.

A better solution when creating a new composer, and gently nudging the user
to set a name for it, might be to move the dialog's widget functionality to
a 'Name' field at the top of the Composition panel.

Then, when a user creates a new composer and the main window is shown, set
keyboard focus to that field and set its background to a color to signify
the user should consider entering a unique name (e.g. pale yellow). The
background could be on a singleshot timer so that it fades out after a bit.

This would only be when creating a new Composer; and, since the field could
already have a generated name inputted, the user can just choose to ignore
it. This also means that GUI scripts don't have to deal with the current
interim dialog.

Regards,

Larry


On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.netwrote:

 Hi,

 +1 for removing it. Maybe an auto-generated name that does not clash
 with existing composer names would be useful - which the user can later
 on rename.

 The user will have to set paper format anyway. In this step he can also
 set the composer name.

 Andreas

 Am 25.01.2014 09:04, schrieb kimaidou:
  Hi Martin
 
  +1 for removing it, as it is a step I usually skip too. But only if we
  provide a input field in the composer properties tab to allow to
 add/change
  the name directly in the opened composer (above the paper size for
  example). This way I won't need to open the composer manager only to
 rename
  it afterwards.
 
  Michael
 
 
  2014/1/25 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com
 
  Hi
 
  Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
  composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
  composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
  me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
  :-)
 
  Regards
  Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-25 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi,

So, to recap:

+1 to remove the annoying, interrupting new name dialog,
and +1 for moving its functionality to the top of the Composition Panel

A non-editable field displaying the name and a simple edit button next to
it that opens up the same rename dialog as is found in the Composer Manager
would be all that is needed. I suggest the continued use of the rename
dialog since it offers validation that the name is unique among existing
composers names, and allows for quickly building a name off of an existing
name.

If this change (not really a feature) will be allowed for 2.2 release, I
can commit the work today.

Regards,

Larry


On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I specifically added that dialog, since so many times my composers
 resulted in unrecognizable names. I believe without it many users will
 suffer from this as well. However, I'm not necessarily keen on its
 implementation, but wish not to remove the functionality, just move it
 elsewhere. The new naming functionality (e.g. to quickly base a name off of
 an existing composer, etc.) is already part of Composer Manager, so nothing
 needs changed there.

 A better solution when creating a new composer, and gently nudging the
 user to set a name for it, might be to move the dialog's widget
 functionality to a 'Name' field at the top of the Composition panel.

 Then, when a user creates a new composer and the main window is shown, set
 keyboard focus to that field and set its background to a color to signify
 the user should consider entering a unique name (e.g. pale yellow). The
 background could be on a singleshot timer so that it fades out after a bit.

 This would only be when creating a new Composer; and, since the field
 could already have a generated name inputted, the user can just choose to
 ignore it. This also means that GUI scripts don't have to deal with the
 current interim dialog.

 Regards,

 Larry


 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.netwrote:

 Hi,

 +1 for removing it. Maybe an auto-generated name that does not clash
 with existing composer names would be useful - which the user can later
 on rename.

 The user will have to set paper format anyway. In this step he can also
 set the composer name.

 Andreas

 Am 25.01.2014 09:04, schrieb kimaidou:
  Hi Martin
 
  +1 for removing it, as it is a step I usually skip too. But only if we
  provide a input field in the composer properties tab to allow to
 add/change
  the name directly in the opened composer (above the paper size for
  example). This way I won't need to open the composer manager only to
 rename
  it afterwards.
 
  Michael
 
 
  2014/1/25 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com
 
  Hi
 
  Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
  composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
  composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
  me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
  :-)
 
  Regards
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[Qgis-developer] New composer's title

2014-01-24 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi

Is there any good reason for the small pop-up dialog asking for
composer name when user wants to create a new composer? There is the
composer manager where the composer can be renamed at any time, so to
me it looks like an unnecessary step and I would be happy to remove it
:-)

Regards
Martin
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