Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Jürgen E. wrote: > Hi people, > > On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 14:30:21 -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote: >> We don't have legal resources "on call" and it could get quite expensive to >> retain legal support so we very much lean towards avoiding legal conflict. > > Did anyone ever have contact with the SFLC[1]? They even have a IRC channel > #sflc on freenode. I'm not sure what contact if any was made with them, though I think the folks dealing with the issue were aware of them. The concensus was to pick our battles and take a stand when the cost-benefit makes it worthwhile. Regards Tim > > > Jürgen > > [1] http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > > -- > norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH > Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden > GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 > > ___ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi people, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 14:30:21 -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > We don't have legal resources "on call" and it could get quite expensive to > retain legal support so we very much lean towards avoiding legal conflict. Did anyone ever have contact with the SFLC[1]? They even have a IRC channel #sflc on freenode. Jürgen [1] http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
New Zealand "Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipuk akapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu" was also not bad... ;) (TRANSLATION: “The brow of the hill where Tamatea, with the bony knees, slid and climbed mountains. The great traveler sat and played on the flute to his beloved.”) On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 07:44 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: > Hi > > Ok I went with Giovanni's suggestion of Capiopo for this release - see > the new splash screen in trunk. > > Regards > > Tim > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Benoit de Cabissole > wrote: > > > > > > On 17/10/2010 10:37, Tim Sutton wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Leong > >> wrote: > >>> How about hill names as release names? > >>> Hills is better than mountains because mountains is always too well > >>> known and probably been used by others. > >>> Moreover, their shape can be used to differentiate releases. > >>> > >>> One example: Bohol > >>> > >> Any nice pics to go with your suggestion? I quite like the idea since > >> philosophically each release is another hill we have climbed and put > >> behind us :-) > > > > Or characteristics contour lines of the hill (we are dealing with GIS > > after all)? > > > > My 2 cents > > Benoit > > > >> Lets keep the discussion on-list ok? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Tim > >> > >>> On 10/17/10, Tim Sutton wrote: > Hi > > > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel > wrote: > > I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of > > Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also > > point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in > > the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we > > could do something with a greater cause as our release names: > > Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. > > (suggest your idea) > > > Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my > intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but > obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are > unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a > theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and > interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would > be fine too). > > Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to > similar conflicts as using planetary moons. > > Regards > > Tim > > > > We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the > > developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk > > will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. > > > > I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to > > fight. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: > >> How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds > >> good and easily memorizable. > >> > >> Maxim > >> > >> Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: > >> > >> TS> Hi > >> > >> TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: > > We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our > > use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. > > It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one > > country. > > Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money > > or > > inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. > Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was > also > covering legal support. > > Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources > anyway. > > >> TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... > >> > > This has a few implications: > > - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for > > our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure > > place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein > > in > > South Africa). > Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a > trademark. > > > >> TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we > >> let > >> TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P > >> > >> TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd > >> like > >> TS> to continue with them... > >> > >> TS> Regards > >> > >> TS> Tim > >> >
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi Ok I went with Giovanni's suggestion of Capiopo for this release - see the new splash screen in trunk. Regards Tim On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Benoit de Cabissole wrote: > > > On 17/10/2010 10:37, Tim Sutton wrote: >> Hi >> >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Leong wrote: >>> How about hill names as release names? >>> Hills is better than mountains because mountains is always too well >>> known and probably been used by others. >>> Moreover, their shape can be used to differentiate releases. >>> >>> One example: Bohol >>> >> Any nice pics to go with your suggestion? I quite like the idea since >> philosophically each release is another hill we have climbed and put >> behind us :-) > > Or characteristics contour lines of the hill (we are dealing with GIS > after all)? > > My 2 cents > Benoit > >> Lets keep the discussion on-list ok? >> >> Regards >> >> Tim >> >>> On 10/17/10, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel wrote: > I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of > Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also > point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in > the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we > could do something with a greater cause as our release names: > Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. > (suggest your idea) > Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would be fine too). Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to similar conflicts as using planetary moons. Regards Tim > We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the > developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk > will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. > > I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to > fight. > > Thanks, > Alex > > On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: >> How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds >> good and easily memorizable. >> >> Maxim >> >> Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: >> >> TS> Hi >> >> TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: > We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our > use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. > It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one > country. > Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or > inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. >> TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... >> > This has a few implications: > - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for > our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure > place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in > South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. >> TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let >> TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P >> >> TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like >> TS> to continue with them... >> >> TS> Regards >> >> TS> Tim >> Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > ___ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please d
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
On 17/10/2010 10:37, Tim Sutton wrote: > Hi > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Leong wrote: >> How about hill names as release names? >> Hills is better than mountains because mountains is always too well >> known and probably been used by others. >> Moreover, their shape can be used to differentiate releases. >> >> One example: Bohol >> > Any nice pics to go with your suggestion? I quite like the idea since > philosophically each release is another hill we have climbed and put > behind us :-) Or characteristics contour lines of the hill (we are dealing with GIS after all)? My 2 cents Benoit > Lets keep the discussion on-list ok? > > Regards > > Tim > >> On 10/17/10, Tim Sutton wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel >>> wrote: I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we could do something with a greater cause as our release names: Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. (suggest your idea) >>> Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my >>> intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but >>> obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are >>> unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a >>> theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and >>> interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would >>> be fine too). >>> >>> Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to >>> similar conflicts as using planetary moons. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to fight. Thanks, Alex On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: > How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds > good and easily memorizable. > > Maxim > > Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: > > TS> Hi > > TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. >>> Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was >>> also >>> covering legal support. >>> >>> Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources >>> anyway. >>> > TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... > This has a few implications: - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). >>> Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a >>> trademark. >>> >>> > TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let > TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P > > TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like > TS> to continue with them... > > TS> Regards > > TS> Tim > >>> Jürgen >>> >>> -- >>> Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. >>> +49-4931-918175-20 >>> Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. >>> +49-4931-918175-50 >>> Software Engineer D-26506 Norden >>> http://www.norbit.de >>> ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) >>> == >>> Please do not email me off-list with technical >>> support questions. Using the lists will gain >>> more exposure for your issues and the knowledge >>> surrounding your issue will be shared with all. >>> >>> Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: >>> * QGIS programming and support services >>> * Mapserver and PostGIS based ho
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Leong wrote: > How about hill names as release names? > Hills is better than mountains because mountains is always too well > known and probably been used by others. > Moreover, their shape can be used to differentiate releases. > > One example: Bohol > Any nice pics to go with your suggestion? I quite like the idea since philosophically each release is another hill we have climbed and put behind us :-) Lets keep the discussion on-list ok? Regards Tim > On 10/17/10, Tim Sutton wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel >> wrote: >>> I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of >>> Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also >>> point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in >>> the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we >>> could do something with a greater cause as our release names: >>> Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. >>> (suggest your idea) >>> >> >> Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my >> intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but >> obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are >> unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a >> theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and >> interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would >> be fine too). >> >> Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to >> similar conflicts as using planetary moons. >> >> Regards >> >> Tim >> >> >>> We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the >>> developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk >>> will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. >>> >>> I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to >>> fight. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex >>> >>> On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds good and easily memorizable. Maxim Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: TS> Hi TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: >> Hi Tim, >> >> On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: >>> We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our >>> use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. >>> It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one >>> country. >>> Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or >>> inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. >> >> Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was >> also >> covering legal support. >> >> Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources >> anyway. >> TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... >>> This has a few implications: >> >>> - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for >>> our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure >>> place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in >>> South Africa). >> >> Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a >> trademark. >> >> TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like TS> to continue with them... TS> Regards TS> Tim >> Jürgen >> >> -- >> Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. >> +49-4931-918175-20 >> Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. >> +49-4931-918175-50 >> Software Engineer D-26506 Norden >> http://www.norbit.de >> >>> >>> ___ >>> Qgis-developer mailing list >>> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) >> == >> Please do not email me off-list with technical >> support questions. Using the lists will gain >> more exposure for your issues and the knowledge >> surrounding your issue will be shared with all. >> >> Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: >> * QGIS programming and support services >> * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans >> * FOSS Consulting Services >> Skype: timlinux >> Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net >> == >> ___ >> Qgis-developer mailing list >> Qgis-d
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel wrote: > I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of > Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also > point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in > the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we > could do something with a greater cause as our release names: > Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. > (suggest your idea) > Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would be fine too). Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to similar conflicts as using planetary moons. Regards Tim > We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the > developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk > will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. > > I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to fight. > > Thanks, > Alex > > On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: >> How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds >> good and easily memorizable. >> >> Maxim >> >> Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: >> >> TS> Hi >> >> TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: > We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our > use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. > It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. > Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or > inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. >> >> TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... >> > This has a few implications: > - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for > our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure > place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in > South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. >> >> TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let >> TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P >> >> TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like >> TS> to continue with them... >> >> TS> Regards >> >> TS> Tim >> Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > > ___ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we could do something with a greater cause as our release names: Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. (suggest your idea) We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to fight. Thanks, Alex On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: > How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds > good and easily memorizable. > > Maxim > > Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: > > TS> Hi > > TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. >>> >>> Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also >>> covering legal support. >>> >>> Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. >>> > > TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... > This has a few implications: >>> - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). >>> >>> Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a >>> trademark. >>> >>> > > TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let > TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P > > TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like > TS> to continue with them... > > TS> Regards > > TS> Tim > >>> Jürgen >>> >>> -- >>> Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 >>> Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 >>> Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de >>> ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 "Moscow" sounds good and easily memorizable. Maxim Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: TS> Hi TS> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: >> Hi Tim, >> >> On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: >>> We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our >>> use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. >>> It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. >>> Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or >>> inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. >> >> Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also >> covering legal support. >> >> Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. >> TS> Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... >>> This has a few implications: >> >>> - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for >>> our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure >>> place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in >>> South Africa). >> >> Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a >> trademark. >> >> TS> *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let TS> big corporations take away our fun? :-P TS> But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like TS> to continue with them... TS> Regards TS> Tim >> Jürgen >> >> -- >> Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 >> Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 >> Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de >> >> -- >> norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH >> Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden >> GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 >> >> ___ >> Qgis-developer mailing list >> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: >> We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our >> use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. >> It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. >> Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or >> inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. > > Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also > covering legal support. > > Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. > Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... >> This has a few implications: > >> - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for >> our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure >> place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in >> South Africa). > > Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a > trademark. > > *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let big corporations take away our fun? :-P But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like to continue with them... Regards Tim > Jürgen > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > > -- > norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH > Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden > GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 > > ___ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Jürgen, We don't have legal resources "on call" and it could get quite expensive to retain legal support so we very much lean towards avoiding legal conflict. However, if the need is there the board would consider resourcing legal support for the projects. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: > We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our > use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. > It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. > Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or > inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. > This has a few implications: > - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for > our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure > place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in > South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Dear QGIS developers We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. The PSC has decided not to disclose the name of the company since we a) don't want to give them any free publicity and b) prefer that we handle communications with the company through the PSC in a discrete and polite manner from our side rather than via a public forum. Thus we would like to put out QGIS 1.6 as soon as possible. We have opted for doing the 1.6 release rather than just a rebadged 1.5.1 release in the interests of conservation of effort. I hate doing 'rush' releases as they have in the past been sloppy and less polished than those where we take our time to check everything properly, but circumstances beyond our control are dictating this one. This has a few implications: - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). - We need to go into a feature freeze as soon as possible - The 1.6 release that was planned for december 2010 will still go out but as 1.7 - Once 1.6 goes out we will remove the download and references to the release name of 1.5 from the web site. So if you have updates / features / fixes in the pipeline that are stable, please get them into svn trunk as soon as possible. I will put out a more detailed timeline for the 1.6 hopefully over this weekend. Lastly a special request, please add your suggestions to the wiki [1] of your favourite and extremely obscure town or place for this release. Translate 'obscure' to mean 'not used as a trademark or product name' anywhere in the world. I will pick one based probably on how nice the pic is and how catchy the placename sounds. In future releases we can have a more democratic approach to selection of the release name. e.g. some kind of voting system. Best regards Tim [1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Release_Naming -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
